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hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 07:44 PM Dec 2014

Do I have the NYPD situation right?

People protest police brutality.

Police respond poorly.

The whole situation, (NYPD and Fergusson) triggers a disturbed person to violence who attacks his GF and then shoots 2 cops enjoying a chili dog in their cruiser.

The police respond by removing all attention to their fallen man at his funeral by taunting the Mayor while he delivers an eulogy and condolences to the traumatized family.

They follow that up with an effective work stoppage where arrests are way down.

If I have that right, it makes me wonder what the demographics of the remaining citations are. Is the net result a reduction of hassling the usual suspects?

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Do I have the NYPD situation right? (Original Post) hootinholler Dec 2014 OP
Yep. The NYPD have all the tact and tastefulness of the Westboro Baptist Church. backscatter712 Dec 2014 #1
No, you do not have it right. Glassunion Dec 2014 #2
Where's the FOX News link? JaneyVee Dec 2014 #3
Link Glassunion Dec 2014 #16
Well played! once again, Raine1967 Dec 2014 #23
Is this sarcasm? hrmjustin Dec 2014 #5
Yes Glassunion Dec 2014 #14
thanks. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #15
Very nice marym625 Dec 2014 #24
Wow. Raine1967 Dec 2014 #6
I thought it was obvious Glassunion Dec 2014 #13
Not these days on DU. Raine1967 Dec 2014 #21
I've got a pretty good ear and I missed it, thinking the 'catcing the flu' bit was KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #29
Source your assertions, please. hootinholler Dec 2014 #10
Sources Glassunion Dec 2014 #11
You had me going for the first 3 paragraphs then laughing for the last 3. uppityperson Dec 2014 #17
I am glad you said that marym625 Dec 2014 #25
You do not have it correct. obxhead Dec 2014 #26
If I may be so bold as to recommend a new one. Yours may be out of calibration. Glassunion Dec 2014 #27
That is an awesome graphic! - nt KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #30
Best summation I have seen. Raine1967 Dec 2014 #4
I wonder, with the work stoppage... Scootaloo Dec 2014 #7
Yeah, you got it, hootinholler. NYPD are the law. Octafish Dec 2014 #8
Perhaps this "stoppage" will result in fewer murders of unarmed AA men selling "loosies" myrna minx Dec 2014 #9
That would be nice hootinholler Dec 2014 #12
Essentially, that covers it. They made themselves abundantly clear they will heavily resist any Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #18
I'd say this shows they've been hassling the poor folk madokie Dec 2014 #19
Next step, call up Blackwater bahrbearian Dec 2014 #20
that disturbed person was not triggered by the NYPD/Ferguson situation Skittles Dec 2014 #22
This may be the best assessment I've read thus far. When the police's 'fucked-up KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #32
he had long struggled with deep psychological problems Skittles Dec 2014 #34
Although I'm sure this is not your intention, your posts make me KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #35
Aside from the obvious, I want to know where anyone in NYC Jamastiene Dec 2014 #28
Almost Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #31
Brigands operating under color of the law. - nt KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #33

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
1. Yep. The NYPD have all the tact and tastefulness of the Westboro Baptist Church.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 07:48 PM
Dec 2014

That's two groups that protest funerals...

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
2. No, you do not have it right.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 07:56 PM
Dec 2014

People violently protest police authority.

Police respond as they a bound to by duty, in an appropriate manner.

The whole situation, (NYPD and Fergusson) triggers a disturbed person to violence who attacks his GF and then shoots 2 cops enjoying a chili dog in their cruiser.

The mayor abandons all of the hard work, sacrifice and danger that the police deal with on a minute to minute basis 24 hours a day.

The police are so distraught by their deeply wounded feelings that they cannot bring themselves to face the mayor (big mean doodie-head) while he is giving a speech, and all silently cry to themselves.

They dutifully return to work, even though they all caught the flu standing so close to each other at the funeral, and are doing their very best given the appalling working conditions.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
6. Wow.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 08:07 PM
Dec 2014

Please tell me you meant to add this:

I say that because it's been had to tell the difference around these parts as of late.

Peace,
Raine

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
21. Not these days on DU.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 08:47 PM
Dec 2014

Last edited Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:19 PM - Edit history (1)

No harm no foul, I hope?

I have seen dome seriously whacked out posts about this issue that have had me scratching my head, Glassunion. It wasn't about you, I promise.

(Edited for typos. )

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
29. I've got a pretty good ear and I missed it, thinking the 'catcing the flu' bit was
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 12:55 AM
Dec 2014

a sarcastic reference uttered by police who needed a euphemism for their work action.

Not sure whether a review of Poe's Law is in order, but for what it's worth:

Poe's law, named after its author Nathan Poe,[1] is an Internet adage reflecting the idea that, without a clear indication of the author's intent, it is difficult or impossible to tell the difference between an expression of sincere extremism and a parody of extremism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
10. Source your assertions, please.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 08:16 PM
Dec 2014

Really.

Whatever the reasoning, I want to know who if they're cracking heads when they feel well enough to work.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
25. I am glad you said that
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 10:48 PM
Dec 2014

I must have skipped that paragraph the first read. Completely missed the doodie head. Good stuff!

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
26. You do not have it correct.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 10:53 PM
Dec 2014

Police brutally beat the shit out of and kill people without cause.

People erupt in vocal protest with peaceful marches.

Police overreact with more violence.

The people, with nothing much left to lose and no direction, react with violence of their own.

Then people like you come along and blame the original victims and their reactions to the original brutality.

You do not have it right.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
7. I wonder, with the work stoppage...
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 08:07 PM
Dec 2014

Are the sales of anabolic steroids and testosterone treatments going down?

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
8. Yeah, you got it, hootinholler. NYPD are the law.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 08:08 PM
Dec 2014

Civilians, including the mayor and his citizens, are little people.

myrna minx

(22,772 posts)
9. Perhaps this "stoppage" will result in fewer murders of unarmed AA men selling "loosies"
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 08:10 PM
Dec 2014

Or of unarmed AA men whose only crime is taking the stairs.

Please proceed NYPD. Your tantrum will probably result in a NYC stimulus for the local community due to all of the uncollected putative fines you levy on African Americans for living while black.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
12. That would be nice
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 08:17 PM
Dec 2014

But I don't see the NYPD selecting in that direction when they choose what to enforce.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
18. Essentially, that covers it. They made themselves abundantly clear they will heavily resist any
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 08:29 PM
Dec 2014

accountability for their actions. They also demonstrated they are capable of using the death of two fellow officers
to achieve their goal.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
19. I'd say this shows they've been hassling the poor folk
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 08:30 PM
Dec 2014

I mean it is mostly the poor folk they've been fucking with all these years hasn't it? I'd say this shows without a doubt that the cops in NYC are the biggest part of the problem

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
22. that disturbed person was not triggered by the NYPD/Ferguson situation
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 08:53 PM
Dec 2014

he was a time bomb waiting to go off and in the end he used that situation for his mentally fucked-up version of making a statement while departing

Now the NYPD is using the tragic deaths of their own to make a mentally fucked-up political statement.

It is all sickening beyond belief

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
32. This may be the best assessment I've read thus far. When the police's 'fucked-up
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 01:03 AM
Dec 2014

Last edited Wed Dec 31, 2014, 09:27 AM - Edit history (1)

political statement' becomes a new dolchstosslegende (stab-in-the-back myth), we've moved beyond 'sickening' into 'frightening.'

May I ask, is there any understanding yet of what triggered Brinsley's homicidal rampage? I read pretty widely but it seems like there's been almost no attention paid to what stressors might have been in play with him when he snapped.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
34. he had long struggled with deep psychological problems
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 06:23 AM
Dec 2014

in America, guns are more readily available than affordable, effective psychiatric care

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
35. Although I'm sure this is not your intention, your posts make me
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 09:26 AM
Dec 2014

incredibly sad, besides being damned astute and clear-headed analyses of what's going on. Please do not stop.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
28. Aside from the obvious, I want to know where anyone in NYC
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 12:44 AM
Dec 2014

found a chili dog. I was laughed at when I asked for chili for my hot dog. They expected me to take relish and/or mustard and those were my choices.

I don't know the answer to your question, but it seems to me the cops hassling less people is a good thing. Maybe they should stick to that plan. They shouldn't really bother people unless they are hurting others or themselves or stealing or something actually serious enough to cause other people problems. Even then, they shouldn't pull their guns and shoot two seconds after stepping out of the car.

 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
31. Almost
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 12:58 AM
Dec 2014

The police response has been effectively to stop acting as roving revenue collection agents, which is how they are blackmailing the mayor, since the city (like many if not most other cities) is dependent on this revenue to meet its budget.

The sick reveal is: that roving army of tens of thousands of cops? The vast majority of what it actually does day-to-day is take money from citizens to pay their own salaries. That I think is the disturbing takeaway that this country is going to take a long time to process.

WTF do we have police for, if they are in actual practice just bandits with immunity from legal repercussions?

That they are just such approved bandits is evident in their own reaction - in a crisis they did not even pretend to rally behind the alleged protect-and-serve mission.

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