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People protest police brutality.
Police respond poorly.
The whole situation, (NYPD and Fergusson) triggers a disturbed person to violence who attacks his GF and then shoots 2 cops enjoying a chili dog in their cruiser.
The police respond by removing all attention to their fallen man at his funeral by taunting the Mayor while he delivers an eulogy and condolences to the traumatized family.
They follow that up with an effective work stoppage where arrests are way down.
If I have that right, it makes me wonder what the demographics of the remaining citations are. Is the net result a reduction of hassling the usual suspects?
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)That's two groups that protest funerals...
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)People violently protest police authority.
Police respond as they a bound to by duty, in an appropriate manner.
The whole situation, (NYPD and Fergusson) triggers a disturbed person to violence who attacks his GF and then shoots 2 cops enjoying a chili dog in their cruiser.
The mayor abandons all of the hard work, sacrifice and danger that the police deal with on a minute to minute basis 24 hours a day.
The police are so distraught by their deeply wounded feelings that they cannot bring themselves to face the mayor (big mean doodie-head) while he is giving a speech, and all silently cry to themselves.
They dutifully return to work, even though they all caught the flu standing so close to each other at the funeral, and are doing their very best given the appalling working conditions.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Raine1967
(11,589 posts)I apologize.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)Wasn't until I got to the flu part I caught the sarcasm.
Please tell me you meant to add this:
I say that because it's been had to tell the difference around these parts as of late.
Peace,
Raine
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Raine1967
(11,589 posts)Last edited Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:19 PM - Edit history (1)
No harm no foul, I hope?
I have seen dome seriously whacked out posts about this issue that have had me scratching my head, Glassunion. It wasn't about you, I promise.
(Edited for typos. )
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)a sarcastic reference uttered by police who needed a euphemism for their work action.
Not sure whether a review of Poe's Law is in order, but for what it's worth:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Really.
Whatever the reasoning, I want to know who if they're cracking heads when they feel well enough to work.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Source 1: sarcasm
Source 2: more sarcasm
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Doodie head and flu?
marym625
(17,997 posts)I must have skipped that paragraph the first read. Completely missed the doodie head. Good stuff!
obxhead
(8,434 posts)Police brutally beat the shit out of and kill people without cause.
People erupt in vocal protest with peaceful marches.
Police overreact with more violence.
The people, with nothing much left to lose and no direction, react with violence of their own.
Then people like you come along and blame the original victims and their reactions to the original brutality.
You do not have it right.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)Raine1967
(11,589 posts)The NYPD did not honor the family of officer Ramoes.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Are the sales of anabolic steroids and testosterone treatments going down?
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Civilians, including the mayor and his citizens, are little people.
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)Or of unarmed AA men whose only crime is taking the stairs.
Please proceed NYPD. Your tantrum will probably result in a NYC stimulus for the local community due to all of the uncollected putative fines you levy on African Americans for living while black.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)But I don't see the NYPD selecting in that direction when they choose what to enforce.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)accountability for their actions. They also demonstrated they are capable of using the death of two fellow officers
to achieve their goal.
madokie
(51,076 posts)I mean it is mostly the poor folk they've been fucking with all these years hasn't it? I'd say this shows without a doubt that the cops in NYC are the biggest part of the problem
bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)Skittles
(153,169 posts)he was a time bomb waiting to go off and in the end he used that situation for his mentally fucked-up version of making a statement while departing
Now the NYPD is using the tragic deaths of their own to make a mentally fucked-up political statement.
It is all sickening beyond belief
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)Last edited Wed Dec 31, 2014, 09:27 AM - Edit history (1)
political statement' becomes a new dolchstosslegende (stab-in-the-back myth), we've moved beyond 'sickening' into 'frightening.'
May I ask, is there any understanding yet of what triggered Brinsley's homicidal rampage? I read pretty widely but it seems like there's been almost no attention paid to what stressors might have been in play with him when he snapped.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)in America, guns are more readily available than affordable, effective psychiatric care
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)incredibly sad, besides being damned astute and clear-headed analyses of what's going on. Please do not stop.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)found a chili dog. I was laughed at when I asked for chili for my hot dog. They expected me to take relish and/or mustard and those were my choices.
I don't know the answer to your question, but it seems to me the cops hassling less people is a good thing. Maybe they should stick to that plan. They shouldn't really bother people unless they are hurting others or themselves or stealing or something actually serious enough to cause other people problems. Even then, they shouldn't pull their guns and shoot two seconds after stepping out of the car.
Man from Pickens
(1,713 posts)The police response has been effectively to stop acting as roving revenue collection agents, which is how they are blackmailing the mayor, since the city (like many if not most other cities) is dependent on this revenue to meet its budget.
The sick reveal is: that roving army of tens of thousands of cops? The vast majority of what it actually does day-to-day is take money from citizens to pay their own salaries. That I think is the disturbing takeaway that this country is going to take a long time to process.
WTF do we have police for, if they are in actual practice just bandits with immunity from legal repercussions?
That they are just such approved bandits is evident in their own reaction - in a crisis they did not even pretend to rally behind the alleged protect-and-serve mission.