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Please Share the Image That Made Walker Supporters’ Heads Explode (Original Post) kpete Apr 2012 OP
"One of these is not like the others..." (n/t) klook Apr 2012 #1
Yeah but Politicalboi Apr 2012 #2
This should be posted on every telephone pole in WI TroglodyteScholar Apr 2012 #3
Ooh, my blue state is smaller but has more people working than WI. Plus 44K new jobs. freshwest Apr 2012 #4
Conservative economic policy at work. Dawson Leery Apr 2012 #5
Ban the GOP and triple all numbers ... BanTheGOP Apr 2012 #6
Aren't traitors already banned? SunSeeker Apr 2012 #12
Triple? Are you nuts? How about quadruple-double. nt bluestate10 Apr 2012 #27
The second most important thing to take away from the Kos article Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #7
He should run for Governor of Illinois, if that's where he's driving the workers, LOL! freshwest Apr 2012 #28
Let's get this to go viral! AynRandCollectedSS Apr 2012 #8
I don't believe austerity economics has nineteen50 Apr 2012 #9
Yet, the continue to assert that it does. n/t Iris Apr 2012 #24
Woowee! One sticks out like my belly! lonestarnot Apr 2012 #10
I though you were gonna say "like my pecker"! NYC_SKP Apr 2012 #14
Since I don't have one of those, that may be a difficult task! lonestarnot Apr 2012 #15
WELL THEN YOU CAN USE MINE!!!! NYC_SKP Apr 2012 #17
Awww LASlibinSC Apr 2012 #11
K & R Scurrilous Apr 2012 #13
Well well look at that! Rex Apr 2012 #16
Texas Workforce Press Release Melissa G Apr 2012 #19
Newly opened, not found. ieoeja Apr 2012 #20
Hope this gets wide distibution! nt ProudProgressiveNow Apr 2012 #18
This will continue as long as Wisconsin pols keep drinking the koolaid... cascadiance Apr 2012 #21
Why exactly would that make their head explode? Indydem Apr 2012 #22
42nd in nation in private job creation ErikJ Apr 2012 #23
Walker is a douchebag, and should never have been elected. He needs to be defeated in an election. Indydem Apr 2012 #25
"There's lies, there's damned lies... druidity33 Apr 2012 #26
 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
2. Yeah but
Mon Apr 23, 2012, 10:55 PM
Apr 2012

How many of those -23,900 didn't pass a drug test. Just think of the money saved there boy.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
4. Ooh, my blue state is smaller but has more people working than WI. Plus 44K new jobs.
Mon Apr 23, 2012, 11:00 PM
Apr 2012

I think Wisconsin needs to go blue, too!


 

BanTheGOP

(1,068 posts)
6. Ban the GOP and triple all numbers ...
Mon Apr 23, 2012, 11:04 PM
Apr 2012

...other than Wisconsin, which will go into the black faster than you can change John McCain's Depends.

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
7. The second most important thing to take away from the Kos article
Mon Apr 23, 2012, 11:08 PM
Apr 2012

Wisconsin's unemployment numbers are going down, even though the number of Wisconsin jobs are dropping.

This is because the numbers are counted two different ways. Using the Kos example, if someone living in Racine gets a job in Chicago, IL, her job is counted in Illinois' total (for the OP chart). However, since she lives in Wisconsin, her employment counts for Wisconsin.

In other words, more people are commuting from Wisconsin to other states, dropping Wisconsin's unemployment numbers. Seems like if Scott Walker was such a great economic leader, he could get Wisconsin citizens jobs in Wisconsin.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
17. WELL THEN YOU CAN USE MINE!!!!
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 01:20 AM
Apr 2012

Not that it would be any easier, just want ya to know what's mine in yer's!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
16. Well well look at that!
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 01:15 AM
Apr 2012

Boy that should speak to everyone around the nation. I wonder what the huge numbers are for Texas? My guess would be newly found oil and natural gas deposits.

Melissa G

(10,170 posts)
19. Texas Workforce Press Release
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 10:09 AM
Apr 2012

Here ya go...

I found this link at this article: http://www.texaspolicy.com/press_releases_single.php?report_id=4368

Texas Workforce Press Release
FOR RELEASE: Embargoed until 9 a.m. MEDIA CONTACT: Lisa Givens
DATE: March 9, 2012 PHONE: 512-463-8556

Texas Unemployment Rate Drops to 7.3 Percent
Texas employers add 67,200 jobs in January

AUSTIN — Texas’ seasonally adjusted unemployment rate fell to 7.3 percent in January, down from 7.4
percent in December, and down from 8.1 percent in January 2011. The Texas unemployment rate is one full
percentage point below the national unemployment rate of 8.3 percent. Texas has remained below the national
unemployment rate for 61 months. January’s is the lowest unemployment rate in Texas since April 2009.

Texas added 67,200 nonfarm jobs in January for a total of 258,200 jobs added over the year. Private employers
added 73,800 jobs over the month, totaling 332,600 private sector jobs added over the year. Texas has
experienced positive annual job growth in nonfarm jobs for the last 21 consecutive months.

“We’re seeing substantial economic growth here in Texas,” said Texas Workforce Commission (TWC)
Chairman Tom Pauken. “I am encouraged that Mining and Logging, which includes oil and gas employers, has
added more than 38,000 jobs over the past year. This industry has grown at a faster rate than any other in Texas,
at a 17.6 percent annual growth rate.”

Nine of the 11 major industries in Texas added jobs in January, led by Professional and Business Services,
which added 18,100 jobs over the month. Over the past year, this industry has added 69,500 jobs for an annual
growth rate of 5.3 percent.
“When the majority of industries in Texas add jobs over the year, that’s a positive sign,” said TWC
Commissioner Representing Labor Ronny Congleton. “Texas continues to have diverse job opportunities for a
diverse workforce, and TWC is committed to helping Texans seize those opportunities.”

The Mining and Logging industry grew 2.2 percent in January, adding 5,700 jobs. Texas’ Manufacturing
industry also has continued to grow, adding 2,400 jobs in January for a total of 25,900 jobs added over the year.
Manufacturing jobs have grown at a rate of 3.2 percent over the year, outpacing the national growth rate for
Manufacturing of 2.0 percent.

“The addition of 332,600 total private sector jobs over the year is positive news. Growth in the Goods-
Producing industries, including Manufacturing, has been steady,” said TWC Commissioner Representing the
Public Andres Alcantar. “TWC and our local boards are committed to helping job seekers and employers
benefit from Texas’ encouraging job market.”

The Midland Metropolitan Statistical Area (MSA) had the lowest January unemployment rate in the state at 4.1
percent. The Odessa MSA came in second at 4.9 percent, and the Amarillo MSA third at 5.2 percent (not
seasonally adjusted).

Audio downloads from TWC Chairman Tom Pauken on the latest labor market data are available at the
following link: http://www.twc.state.tx.us/news/press/2012/praudio12.html.
-more-

Texas Workforce Commission • 512-463-8942 • http://www.texasworkforce.org • Equal Opportunity Employer/Program
Auxiliary aids and services are available upon request to individuals with disabilities.
Relay Texas: 1-800-735-2988 (TDD) or 711 (Voice)

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
20. Newly opened, not found.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 10:11 AM
Apr 2012

Like pretty much everything else, oil is cheaper to pump overseas. So they dug and capped wells all over the United States waiting for oil to hit $100/barrel for a sustained period.

Oil leases are really nasty things for the property owners. The lease is forever, and you only get money when they actually remove any of the oil. So if you sign an oil lease your heirs a thousand years from now (in theory) would not be allowed to do anything with your property that may interfere with the oil company.

Also, you sign away a whole class of material. That fracking they are doing in Pennsylvania? Those oil wells might have dried up a hundred years ago. Good chance that when they started the fracking process they shocked a lot of property owners with no idea that this material under their property had been signed away a century ago.

 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
22. Why exactly would that make their head explode?
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 03:00 PM
Apr 2012

It's 23,900 (preliminary, seasonally adjusted) jobs over the course of the year (mostly public sector union employees, most likely).

Every other chart in that report is in WI favor, including a lower than national average unemployment rate, and a .8% reduction in unemployment rate over the past year.

I am sure it makes everyone feel better to point at one chart in a long report and say "SEE SEE!" but the facts don't really back up the claims that are being made.

If we intend to defeat Walker (which I feel is a longshot anyway) we ought to have stronger evidence than a cherry picked chart from a preliminary report.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
23. 42nd in nation in private job creation
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 03:05 PM
Apr 2012

From yesterday

A broader snapshot tells a different tale. Illinois ranked third while Wisconsin placed 42nd in the most recent Bloomberg Economic Evaluation of States index, which includes personal income, tax revenue and employment. Illinois gained 32,000 jobs in the 12 months ending in February, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics found. Wisconsin, where Walker promised to create 250,000 jobs with the help of business-tax breaks, lost 16,900.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2012/04/20/bloomberg_articlesM2QIHG0D9L3501-M2QZM.DTL#ixzz1szCwAJg1

 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
25. Walker is a douchebag, and should never have been elected. He needs to be defeated in an election.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 03:15 PM
Apr 2012

But the article you just linked to is full of statistics that his supporters can easily turn around and use to justify his actions:

"Wisconsin's 6.9 percent unemployment rate in February is tied with Massachusetts as the nation's 14th lowest. The 9.1 percent rate in Illinois is tied with Georgia and South Carolina at 42nd. The jobless figure in Quinn's state has been 9 percent or higher since March 2009."

"The index ranked Wisconsin 42nd among the states when comparing the fourth quarter of 2011 with the same period of 2010."

The 4th quarter of 2010 vs 2011? That's 1 Quarter before Walker took office, and almost a full quarter before his Budget Repair Bill passed.

There are plenty of statistics that show how much of an asshole Walker is, and how much damage he's done to Wisconsin. My point is that using cherry picked stats and ignoring half of the data isn't going to make a very good argument.

druidity33

(6,446 posts)
26. "There's lies, there's damned lies...
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 07:58 PM
Apr 2012

and then there's statistics"

Attributed to Twain or Disraeli or 'other'...

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