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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsScott Ritter - remember him - versus Jeffrey Epstein
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jan/02/jeffrey-epstein-rise-and-fall-of-teacher-turned-tycoon<snip>
Raised in a tough Brooklyn neighbourhood, Epstein was working as a maths teacher at a Manhattan private school when, the legend goes, the father of one of his students put him in touch with a partner at the global investment bank Bear Stearns.
By the following year prosecutors said they had identified 40 young women who may have been illegally procured by Epstein. Dozens of his alleged victims are reported to have settled with Epstein out of court.
The federal inquiry was eventually dropped after Epstein negotiated a deal with prosecutors in which he agreed to plead guilty to a relatively minor state charge relating to soliciting paid sex with a minor. He served 13 months of an 18-month sentence and is now a registered sex offender.
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http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Scott-Ritter-paroled-in-online-sex-case-5936227.php
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Scott Ritter, the former United Nations weapons inspector who was arrested and imprisoned for unlawful contact with a minor, has returned to Bethlehem.
Ritter was paroled from state prison in Pennsylvania in September. A call to his home wasn't returned on Thursday.
A vocal critic of the 2003 invasion of Iraq, Ritter has resumed his trenchant writing on U.S. policy in the Middle East: He has authored at least three online articles for Huffington Post since October, including one warning that the creation of a U.S.-backed "Free Syrian Army" represents a "figment of American creative thinking."
Ritter, 53, was an intelligence officer in the Marine Corps and then a weapons inspector for the U.N.
Upon leaving the U.N., he criticized the organization for not enforcing disarmament in Iraq after the 1991 Gulf War.
But as the U.S. was preparing to invade in 2003, Ritter gained prominence for his contention that the country had no real weapons of mass destruction.
Later the same year, Ritter made headlines when news surfaced that he had been caught in a police sting in 2001.
Police said that he had tried to lure a 16-year-old girl actually a Colonie undercover officer posing online to a Burger King in Menands. That case was later adjourned in contemplation of dismissal essentially dropped and the record was sealed. At the time, Ritter suggested that the case was a smear campaign designed to silence him.
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PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)He was one of the few outspoken voices of truth about the illegal war. He also let his carnal desires get the best of him. One does not negate the other.
Edit- i see now, the banker got off easy...
malaise
(269,054 posts)That's my point
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)joshcryer
(62,276 posts)I respect Ritter for his Iraq War efforts, and indeed, defend his comments on that to this day. But he did wrong, and he did have some perversions. I can't say if he was set up or not, I don't know, but regardless he had his choices and chose wrongly.
Robert Fisk, Hans Blix, and suicided David Kelly were among others who were part of it. I think David Kelly was the only one of them all to be disappeared for his actions. But I cannot rule out a Ritter honeypot / sting operation. 16 is legal in many states.
hack89
(39,171 posts)Ritter had three arrests. The first led to no charges. The second led to misdemeanor charges and the charges were dropped after six months probation. The third time he was offered a plea bargain but turned it down.
UTUSN
(70,708 posts)for anti-Iraq-Attack voices, because one issue does not obliterate the rest. What if MANSON or Robert DURST chimed in with some political position we agreed with? Wingnut fatcats run high dollar charities and I say *that* will not save them.
Nobody is absolved for creepy or criminal behavior because of an acceptable label or acceptable policy position. We've had some Democratic partisans who do whatever creepy/criminal thing and I say the Democratic label ends there. They are not representative of the label at that point, they are simply reduced to their creepy/criminal activity. At the minimum, it will always be a distraction when they are speaking for the acceptable policy because the creepiness will always be brought up.
As for the other dude, more news items say that he was let off easy to protect Royal/Parasite Randy Andy who (allegedly) toesucked a minor furnished by that dude and that a senior Shrub official requested for the prosecutor to let him off easy for the sake of the Parasite. How come his (ex-)wife caught big heat for getting toesucked herself, while tongues didn't wag about him?!1
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)charges are true are certifiable MONsters, and need to suffer Guantanamo-like imprisonment for the rest of their lives
Epstein probably has LOTS of pics/vids of the 1% at his underage gatherings. That's why he got off easy on his plea bargain. he's now a registered sex offender FWIW
Rumor has it that Ken Starr was involved
saw this thing on MSNBC>>Chris Hayes:
http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/alan-dershowitz-responds-to-accusations-380858435930
http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/the-bizarre-case-of-jeffrey-epstein-380857411769
some articles about this indescribably filthy creep Epstein
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/06/i-tried-to-warn-you-about-sleazy-billionaire-jeffrey-epstein-in-2002.html#
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/01/05/the-prince-and-the-sex-offender-prince-andrew-and-jeffrey-epsteins-mysterious-relationship/
check the comments on the latter
if you care to wallow, check this Daily Mail story, with the obvious Brit angle:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2897836/How-Prince-Andrew-s-sex-abuser-friend-Jeffrey-Epstein-kept-list-nicknamed-Holy-Grail-great-good-Bill-Clinton-Tony-Blair-Mick-Jagger-Donald-Trump.html
this goes into some detail about Epstein's interesting little black book, in which Clinton's name/email/phone #s appear.....something like 21 email adds and 9 phone numbers, possibly the reverse
a large percentage of the 172 (as of now) comments at the WAPO site are agressively anti Clinton (including the effect on Hillary's campaign), with the tiresome spewage about the leftwing rag ignoring Clinton's role in getting Epstein a sweet plea deal, even though that happened in 08
makes for interesting reading...up to the nausea point
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