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Putin, in my humble opinion, is now officially more repressive than was Nikita Kruschev. Even Kruschev allowed fairly significant criticism of the regime and system from Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn who published "One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich" (Оди́н день Ива́на Дени́совича Odin den' Ivana Denisovicha) with permission from Kruschev and his government. Now, being tagged in the wrong article or video on Facebook, Twitter or VKontakte which makes it appear that one supports criticism of Putin's regime results in arrest or other repression in Russia.
http://www.sptimes.ru/story/41558
THE PERILS OF BEING TAGGED ON SOCIAL MEDIA IN RUSSIA
The Russian government's excessive control over social media made international headlines last week. The state media oversight agency, at the request of prosecutors, forced the popular social network Facebook to block a support page for a Russian opposition leader and prominent anti-corruption activist, Alexei Navalny, who is on trial in a case he has called politically motivated.
But that is only the tip of the iceberg. Many social media users are finding themselves in trouble with the Russian authorities for joining groups, getting tagged, and sharing content on social media sites.
Who among us has not been tagged in an unflattering photo or an offensive post? It might lead us to wonder why we took that group picture after midnight or raise some eyebrows at work. It might also make us regret the evaporation of privacy. But it should not lead to legal trouble with the authorities. Yet this is precisely what happened to a woman in Perm, Russia.
In September, Yevgeniya Vychigina was prosecuted and fined for being tagged by a friend in a so-called "extremist" video on the Russian social media site VKontakte. Featuring interviews with self-styled "partisans" who attacked police officers, the video was undeniably controversial. Yet Vychigina was no partisan. She was neither in the video nor supported the video's message.
Her friend simply wanted her to watch it, and she claims to have accepted the tag without watching the video. After she accepted the video, it appeared on Vychigina's Vkontakte page, leading a court to fine her for "disseminating extremist materials." The case reveals the absurd and alarming scope of Internet censorship in Russia.
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SidDithers
(44,228 posts)respect for being the first to stand against human rights violations carried out by the powerful rather than the powerless. By refusing to compromise their principles in the face of intimidation, they have earned the respect of the world." - Edward Snowden.
Sid
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)didn't think out his actions, didn't put forth nearly the necessary attempt to get his concerns addressed through approved channels and has done more harm than good to any effort for human rights by giving cover to Russia.
That's what happens when you are young, think you know it all and think you are much smarter than you really are.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Igel
(35,320 posts)Russian didn't compromise her principles in the face of intimidation.
Either she stuck to her principles, which were/are corrupt and brutish as in previous decades.
Or she compromised her principles for self-gain and control.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)I think Snowden and Greenwald will both go down in history as the people who gave cover to a brutal dictator as he descended towards the worst of his abuses. That's for which they both will most be remembered.
We don't know what Putin's bottom is yet, but he was KGB for a significant period (7 years) in both intelligence and counterintelligence roles during the Brezhnev years, which outside of Stalin's time were among the worst and most repressive years for Soviet Russia in the postwar period. Putin was in the KGB for 16 years in total.
I'm sure during his time in the KGB he was witness to and did many horrific things. He's not above it and I think we are going to see him revert to that behavior as things get more difficult for him.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)Maybe Snowden and Greenwald will be remembered for refusing to give cover to the current US government and the legacy of the Reagan/Bush I and II dynasty...
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)It hampered the efforts to roll back Putin's unprovoked war of aggression in Ukraine and hampered the efforts to combat Putin's repression at home. That's much worse than supposedly uncovering the NSA reading posts of any kind.
Putin is equal to or worse than Bush and Cheney in every category.
- He has engaged in several unprovoked wars of aggression
- He arrests reporters who criticize the regime or has them killed
- He has now graduated to arresting regular citizens for the crime of someone else tagging them in a Facebook post for something the taggee may have nothing to do with in the first place.
Snowden's main legacy will be the comparison between the statement in Sid's above post and Putin's dictatorial legacy which is bad now but whose depths we haven't yet seen.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)When you are comparing your evil to someone else's evil and labeling yours evil-lite, you look foolish. We lost the moral high ground to tell other nations what to do after Bush. We have done nothing since to gain it back.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Many weren't even politically active. In many cases folks they barely knew in cyberspace tagged them.
That shows a paranoia about people being subversive that is light years beyond an arrest at a protest where you are released 24 hours later.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)Innocent people get arrested in America everyday. Get tasered. Shot. I bet way more than in Russia.
I don't really have much energy to muster up any moral outrage for Putin's actions when so many American injustices are never addressed.
nilesobek
(1,423 posts)The Democrats who supported the neo cons and voted for the Hatriot Act and torture are far worse. They voted for the murder of over 1 million Iraqis. They've covered for the torture of human beings.
Putin is a Boy Scout compared to those American Constitution shredders. There won't ever be a war on Mother Russia. Too many Americans like me offering fanatical resistance.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)No credit to Americans like you who assume any distaste for Putin means advocating for war.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)and as you noted a completely incorrect one.
nilesobek
(1,423 posts)I've seen the lies and the mission creepazoid that the neo-cons employ to get their way. Furthermore, I know they could care less about the results for the lower and middle classes. We are not going to let neo-con forces suicide our nation.
How do you know what the results of such provocations will be concerning the Russians? They might conclude a first strike is the only way to stop us. Kiev isn't very far from Moscow but I guess you'd have to be a Muscovite to appreciate the provocation.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Cuba's only 90 miles from Florida and we have about as much right meddling in internal Cuban affairs as Russia has in Ukraine--that is, zero.
nilesobek
(1,423 posts)When the Ruskies were involved in Cuba and had missiles pointed at NY and Washington, America did freak out over that provocation. I've heard people on this site try and say we should give those Nazi goosesteppers in Kiev, "their nuclear weapons back." There seems to be a lot of carry over from the Cold War around here, people willing to hate Russia, not because of what they are doing now, but the old jingoistic feelings from the past they got from Grandad and Dad. What Russia is doing now is a hate crime, its wrong and it won't work. I'm sure they are cracking down on social media because that's where they see the activism coming from. They kicked out the foreign activists, and now they are limiting their activity on social media. I hope that makes my position clear. I don't believe these color revolutions are productive anymore, just look at the Nazi imagery, RT didn't make that up.
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Terra Alta
(5,158 posts)if he thinks Russia has the "respect of the world".
Hope he enjoys his new life in a fascist, totalitarian state.
Cha
(297,318 posts)spanone
(135,844 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)The NSA is watching everything you post on Facebook!!!!
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Their attempts to explain this away should provide lots of amusement.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Boreal
(725 posts)The city of Kharkov is outside of Donbass. It is and has been under Ukrainian control this whole time. Kharkov has a strong anti-maidan movement in it. In the new democratic Ukraine on November 22 Victor a VK anti-maidan group editor was arrested and taken for questioning by the SBU (Ukrainian FBI). VK (V Kontakte) is the Russian version of Facebook. The group editor is the person that publishes the posts for the group on the page.
Victor who clearly wasnt in Donbass and not a militia member was tortured for 4 days before being dumped on the side of the road in a coma. He never regained consciousness and died on November 26th. The official cause of death on the certificate from the hospital was pneumonia. Four days earlier Victors family says he was healthy.
Every one of Victors fingers were broken and bent to the back of his hand. His finger nails were pulled out. Every rib was broken. Alexanders skull was split. This was just questioning. He was never charged formally.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/kiev-regimes-official-policy-for-east-ukraine-is-starvation-torture-rape-and-murder/5422112
Slava Ucraina! Glory to heroes!
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)or RT or similar sources.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)I'm expecting them to claim Vychigina doesn't exist, and is a false person created by Ukraine.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)/Pootlickers
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)LMAO
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)His last Tweet remotely related was a post about Snowden's allegations regarding the NSA. Nothing about Russia's recent censorship and repression.
Terra Alta
(5,158 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Putin is great, he is just looking out for his people from the evil NATO zombie people.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)claim that. You know it's coming.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)super secret embedded RT report that explains it all
lol
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)media source.