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alp227

(32,034 posts)
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 03:04 AM Jan 2015

Wichita police: Man shot, killed by officer was ‘belligerent,’ reaching for his waistband

At 6:43 p.m. Saturday, 911 operators received a call of a disturbance involving a knife at the address on North Oliver, Mosley said.

Two officers arrived in the area at 6:51 p.m., parking down the street and walking to the residence.

With officers on the way, dispatchers received at least three more calls stating the suspect was under the influence of alcohol and armed with a knife, Mosley said. At the scene, two officers approached an SUV parked in the driveway of the house.

Officers approached (John) Quintero, who was on the passenger side of the SUV, and his 44-year-old father, who was on the driver’s side.

Quintero’s father got out of the vehicle and was compliant, Mosley said.

“However, the 23-year-old was belligerent and confrontational toward the officers and refused commands from Officer B,” Mosley said. “The suspect approached Officer B, and Officer B backed away from the suspect due to him not complying with verbal commands. The suspect walked toward the back of the SUV, at which time Officer A hears the verbal confrontation and moves to a position to assist Officer B at the rear of the SUV.”


full: http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article5407941.html
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Wichita police: Man shot, killed by officer was ‘belligerent,’ reaching for his waistband (Original Post) alp227 Jan 2015 OP
Again, reaching for a waistband with no weapon there? Scootaloo Jan 2015 #1
I think that is one of the most frustrating things loyalsister Jan 2015 #3
"he reached for his waistband" 99th_Monkey Jan 2015 #4
Ahhh loyalsister Jan 2015 #9
Another tragedy and young life lost. Live and Learn Jan 2015 #2
Did you read the letter from the murdered man's family up string? 99th_Monkey Jan 2015 #5
It is not posted on this thread but I just read it on the other thread. Live and Learn Jan 2015 #6
In nations with gun control the cops would not instantly have thought "he is going for one of the Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #7
Apparently the best option for avoiding death by cop is nudity. Vinca Jan 2015 #8
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
1. Again, reaching for a waistband with no weapon there?
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 03:48 AM
Jan 2015

What is this bizarre mental affliction cursing the young brown men across the nation, compelling them to reach for phantom weapons tucked in their waistbands when speaking with police - and only then?

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
3. I think that is one of the most frustrating things
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 04:00 AM
Jan 2015

I have heard from several people, and understand it to be almost common knowledge that men of color are taught fairly early on that not keeping their hands in sight can get them killed- as part of "the talk" on how to survive in the racist USA.

I'm baffled by these claims.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
4. "he reached for his waistband"
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 04:32 AM
Jan 2015

Once physically engaged (which is generally initiated by cops), THEN cops can (and often do) take hold of the person's forearm and literally & forcibly "make" the person appear to "reach for their waistband" for the sake of any cameras that may be rolling. Once they do that, then wa-la, cop gets license to kill.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
9. Ahhh
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 11:15 AM
Jan 2015

I always think of the horrible grief and injustice that incredulous parents must feel when they hear that their son supposedly didn't practice the survival skills they taught him.

-- Be proud of who you are. BUT, be careful when you reach for your wallet to let someone know the details. And remember that not keeping your hands in sight could be fatal. ----

For a parents to have a thought or feeling that suggests this mistake.... "I didn't emphasize how much some people hate him" has to be hideously painful.

And every time it happens, there are other parents who feel the need to repeat the talk with that emphasis.

If it is painful for me to know this is what my friends face, it must be excruciating for the people who live it.

It has got to stop. People of color have been patient and endured this hateful pattern long enough.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
2. Another tragedy and young life lost.
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 03:59 AM
Jan 2015

It sounds like the father may have had the situation under control before police arrived. I'd like to hear what the father says happened.

We obviously need individuals better trained to respond to this type of crises. I am sure it could have been resolved without killing anyone.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
6. It is not posted on this thread but I just read it on the other thread.
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 04:38 AM
Jan 2015

Appears my suspicion was right. I wish families knew not to call the police and I wish they had someone they could call for help.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
7. In nations with gun control the cops would not instantly have thought "he is going for one of the
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 09:45 AM
Jan 2015

300 millions killing machines aka "guns" in civilian hands", and the civilian would have been alive today.

Guns kill in so many ways, strange and tragic ways, killing made as easy as twitching a finger.

Vinca

(50,279 posts)
8. Apparently the best option for avoiding death by cop is nudity.
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 10:04 AM
Jan 2015

And that's not a sure thing. "He was reachin' for a pistol up his ass . . . I swear."

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