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Omaha Steve

(99,660 posts)
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 12:59 PM Jan 2015

LA Times: California animal welfare law could cause higher egg prices countrywide


Also see this post: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026037997





http://www.omaha.com/money/california-animal-welfare-law-could-cause-higher-egg-prices-countrywide/article_4d805bf5-f644-5e7f-a4db-751a04b7c1a7.html

POSTED: MONDAY, JANUARY 5, 2015 12:30 AM
The Los Angeles Times

LAKESIDE, Calif. — If your eggs seem a little pricier, consider the recent changes on Frank Hilliker’s ranch.

In the last six months, the third-generation egg farmer in central San Diego County has reduced his flock by half and embarked on a $1 million overhaul of his henhouses to make them more spacious. Customers are now paying about 50 percent more for a dozen eggs from Hilliker’s family business at around $3 a carton.



It’s all to comply with a landmark animal welfare law that took effect in California on New Year’s Day. The law is having a ripple effect into egg operations in Iowa and other big egg-producing states in the Midwest.

No state consumes more eggs than California — and about a third of its supply must be imported. Iowa, where laying hens outnumber people 20 to 1, sells about 40 million eggs a day to out-of-state buyers.

FULL story at link.

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LA Times: California animal welfare law could cause higher egg prices countrywide (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jan 2015 OP
I, for one, am very happy with paying more...nt joeybee12 Jan 2015 #1
Me too Omaha Steve Jan 2015 #2
I'm not happy with paying more meow2u3 Jan 2015 #8
If I ate eggs I would be also! MoonRiver Jan 2015 #15
I treat myself about once every two weeks to a "full" breakfast... joeybee12 Jan 2015 #17
A small price to pay for a tiny bit of humanity. AtomicKitten Jan 2015 #3
Good article! There are some points I hadn't considered wrt the cold-region farmers, petronius Jan 2015 #4
I have no problem paying more. onecaliberal Jan 2015 #5
Eggs are a bargain anyhow. Paying more is fine to help the birds. femmocrat Jan 2015 #6
I have exactly ZERO problems with paying a bit more ... 11 Bravo Jan 2015 #7
Good for the chickens Aerows Jan 2015 #9
I bought eggs just a day or two ago. Trillo Jan 2015 #10
The estimates I've seen is that Prop. 2 will cause prices to rise by 10-40%, not 100% Gormy Cuss Jan 2015 #11
Yes, it will even out BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #12
Fuck off, California. Ykcutnek Jan 2015 #13
What about pain to the chickens in cages they can't move in? Omaha Steve Jan 2015 #14
Can't move, can't get out of their own feces, can't see daylight or even full spectrum light, Gormy Cuss Jan 2015 #19
humane treatment of animals in not BS. nt G_j Jan 2015 #18
Did you forget the sarcasm smilie...? haele Jan 2015 #20
Portland is in Oregon. DEMTough Jan 2015 #21
I really doubt it will be noticeable over record low oil prices Recursion Jan 2015 #16

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
8. I'm not happy with paying more
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 02:46 PM
Jan 2015

People on fixed incomes cannot afford to shell out extra money for necessities.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
4. Good article! There are some points I hadn't considered wrt the cold-region farmers,
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 01:09 PM
Jan 2015

but I was glad to see this:

Ever since, Hilliker has been startled by the change. Now free to move around, his hens exhibit behavior he had never seen before — like a pecking order when it comes to feeding or their playful beak-tapping on old CDs and colorful string he’s hung from the beams.

“I don’t know if the chickens know any better, but it’s made farming fun again,” Hilliker said of the new barn. “It’s a new challenge, and I feel like it has reinvigorated me.”

As a Californian who voted for the law I've been making a particular effort to buy CA eggs (although I slipped up yesterday and grabbed a TX carton). Good to see that other states are considering similar rules...

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
6. Eggs are a bargain anyhow. Paying more is fine to help the birds.
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 02:13 PM
Jan 2015

I wonder if it would have any effect nation-wide, however. Didn't some state recently pass a bill making it illegal to take pictures on a farm? "Factory" farmers are not going to conform willingly, I fear.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
9. Good for the chickens
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 02:53 PM
Jan 2015

good for the people who tend to them, and good for everyone that consumes eggs to know that there is humane treatment that brought food to their table.

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
10. I bought eggs just a day or two ago.
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 02:55 PM
Jan 2015

I'm one of those who generally buys a couple flats of them at a time, prices had doubled. What used to cost $5.99 was about $11.

While I didn't like it, I still bought the eggs. The way the increase in price occurred, all of a sudden, wham, coupled with immediate news releases to explain, suggests little more than a rigged market.

I like the idea the birds are treated more humanely. I don't think I believe the rationale however. I suspect the drought has raised grain prices, and this law is just providing a convenient excuse.

I can't guarantee, if prices remain as high as they are, that I won't find alternatives to eggs. Maybe it's time to find that hummus recipe, and eat that for morning sandwiches instead of egg sandwiches. Hummus is cheap to make when you make it from the dry beans..... It freezes well, you can make a huge batch up ahead of time and keep it on hand.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
11. The estimates I've seen is that Prop. 2 will cause prices to rise by 10-40%, not 100%
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 03:39 PM
Jan 2015

so you're probably right, it's just a convenient excuse to jack up the prices.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
12. Yes, it will even out
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 04:24 AM
Jan 2015

And free range and family farms will be able to compete against factory eggs now too. I buy eggs from our farmer's market for $5 a dozen. Store eggs were $4, so if they increase which is likely, it will be close to the same. But the farmer's eggs are jumbo, golden, often double yolk eggs so they are definitely worth a little more. Plus if you buy two flats, like I do as we eat a lot of eggs for cheap protein, it's a good deal.

 

Ykcutnek

(1,305 posts)
13. Fuck off, California.
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 04:42 AM
Jan 2015

When your Portlandia bullshit starts causing the rest of us pain, it's time to fuck the fuck off.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
19. Can't move, can't get out of their own feces, can't see daylight or even full spectrum light,
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 12:51 PM
Jan 2015

are crammed into tight rows of such cages with other stressed hens can peck at them all day, yep. All that' is WORTH IT for cheap eggs.

haele

(12,660 posts)
20. Did you forget the sarcasm smilie...?
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 02:39 PM
Jan 2015

If not, the pain you might be complaining about "feeling" is the excuse that most grocery stores will use to jack up prices 70% instead of the 12% - 20% increase it might actually cost for the one-time retro-fitting to meet Prop 2 requirements. Also, from what our local (I live 10 miles from the Hilliker's farm that was profiled in the article and regularly buy their eggs from our local IGA/bodega) now cage free ranchers have begun to indicate, the large-scale operations that supply supermarket and corporate eggs have found that hens tend to be healthier and not require as many veterinary visits and antibiotic supplements and do not have to deal with as many sick or replacement hens as they did when the hens were caged - which is currently reflected in the price and quality of the eggs you are getting.
For the record, over this year, soon after the retrofitting, the Hilliker farm eggs have been getting better - they seem tastier, the whites are less runny and the yolks are a bit larger, so they've become better to bake with, and the shells are sturdier; there's less breakage found at the store. Two eggs instead of three are now enough for a moist cake like devil's food or red velvet, and instead of using four eggs to make cheesy scrambled eggs for a four-person family breakfast, I only use three and there's still enough for everyone - because they cook up fluffier and denser. I'm using fewer eggs this year to make the same things I made last year.
Actually, I'm spending less. A 6 x 6 flat of large cream to brown eggs from Hilliker's has only gone up about a dollar at the bodega - $6.99 up from $5.99, but I need about 1/3 fewer for what I'm doing and don't need to purchase the flats anymore.
I'm now getting by with two, sometimes two and a half of the standard 12-cartons a month, and I'm only spending around on average $4.75 to $5.60 on the eggs I use every month rather than the full $5.99 for a flat and perhaps another $2.00 for another 12-carton to make it through that last week-end.
Now, Hilliker's eggs are about $1.00 - $1.50 more at the chain supermarkets (i.e., Vons or Ralphs) than at the IGAs... and that's a corporate mark-up (because they can) issue, not a Prop-2 issue.
Vons and Ralphs are actually getting the eggs cheaper than my local IGA because they're getting volume discounts, but they're charging more... go figure.

Anyway, that's what cage free hens gets you. It's not Portlandia BS.

Haele

DEMTough

(90 posts)
21. Portland is in Oregon.
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 03:23 PM
Jan 2015

Also, this reform was necessary. A little price bump that was taken advantage of by supermarkets.

Sorry,

- A Californian who will not fuck off, and will keep his state right here in the Union.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
16. I really doubt it will be noticeable over record low oil prices
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 08:26 AM
Jan 2015


Most of the cost of food is getting it from where it's grown to you.
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