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When your bloated ego outweighs your compassion and your humanity and your ability to respect the death of a fellow officer, their family, dear Gawd their children and all those that loved them, then you have lost your almighty soul.
You threw a childish tantrum. You act like recalcitrant Children. The duly elected DEMOCRATIC (White) Mayor wanted to protect his Black Family and obviously you could not handle the truth in what he said. Poor pitiful you. New York's finest?: No.
It was so much more important to you during those two funerals for us all of us to look at you! SEE ME SEE ME.
You have given us all proof positive that you are ugly uncaring and inhumane members of the NYPD. Your disrespect was glaring. It has shone a light on who you truly are.
You demand respect on the street. You demand your authority is respected and followed to the letter. You demand. You demand. You demand. Yet you give none of that, none at all.
Your suspects.You profile Them. You Kick Them. Taz Them. Strangle Them. Beat Them. Then you shoot Them.
May God forgive you your sins, I never will.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Excellant!
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)brooklynite
(94,598 posts)Sort of detracts from the argument.
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)Sort of detracts from the argument.
That's gonna leave a welt!
robbob
(3,531 posts)Thank you for clarifying what was going on there. And asking for clarification probably would have been smarter than assuming the 2nd photo 'disproves' your point.
Feral Child
(2,086 posts)That's you.
dmr
(28,347 posts)I don't think they dare disrespect the mayor so soon. Although the ceremony was marred from the stands.
Shameful that those we entrust with incredible and life-changing power succumbs to group think while lacking the capacity of self reflection.
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)Spazito
(50,365 posts)the families of 'one of their own' was beyond despicable. Adding to that, the disrespect shown to the Mayor because he dared to speak publicly about the talk parents of black youth are forced to have with their children because of the way police interact with them as opposed to how police interact with white youth. Their disrespect in this regard was also beyond despicable, imo.
Good OP, thanks for posting it.
malaise
(269,054 posts)were from minority groups - and yes their behavior was and is beyond despicable.
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)Thank you.
Spazito
(50,365 posts)I can't help but wonder if they would have behaved so despicably had the slain officers been white. I really do wonder.
malaise
(269,054 posts)Spazito
(50,365 posts)it is a question many should be asking, imo.
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)It is a fact Spazito.
If the officers were white AND the mayors family was white this never would have happened.
Spazito
(50,365 posts)It didn't cross my mind when they behaved despicably at the first funeral but when they did it again at the second it became clear to me. My heart breaks for the families of the slain officers, not only did they lose their loved ones, they had to stand by and see them disrespected by their fellow officers even after death.
My heart also goes out to the Mayor's family, this despicable action must hurt them so much as well.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)important considering the subject is racism.
easychoice
(1,043 posts)How dare they?
I am furious already but this adds.What a lack of class.
Spazito
(50,365 posts)The Mayor was asked by the Liu family to give the eulogy and the NYPD officers showed their total disregard for the family's wishes by their despicable behavior.
It was bad enough when they did it at the first funeral but to repeat their despicable actions again at the second funeral showed all too well where their priorities lay and it was NOT honoring their fellow officers and their families.
easychoice
(1,043 posts)I bet if you disrespected one of their family members at the funeral they would make a huge issue out of it.
I lost my wife,light of my life,suddenly and young.I can feel that woman's pain through the photos.Shame on those self serving creeps.
Spazito
(50,365 posts)I am sorry for your loss.
easychoice
(1,043 posts)There over a million of them wandering around waiting to shoot somebody who doesn't have civil rights anymore.
How we got here I haven't a clue but I am thinking Patriot Act.
The Department of Justice could stop it tomorrow but they are the people who tell the locals what to do.It all comes right out of D.C. policy control for local federal funding.
Spazito
(50,365 posts)I think they should remove the tools of war which were recently given to police around the country, they aren't needed when the priority should be community policing not military enforcement.
There also needs to be tighter entrance requirements, psychology tests, etc, to weed out those who are looking for power instead of a need to serve, weed out those with racist, misogynist, homophobic, anti-semitic views, imo.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)easychoice
(1,043 posts)I hope that goddamned Nazi in Texas that is about to die is happy with his police state bullshit.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)God that he is not going to be around to see that happen.
easychoice
(1,043 posts)Every one of them.
brer cat
(24,578 posts)K&R
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)They dishonored their own fallen. They used their brethren as political pawns.
I am disgusted. They want to be more important than the institutionalized racism that people are protesting.
Officers Rafael Ramos & Wenjian Liu did not deserve to die.
Eric Garner did not deserve to die.
Somehow, these officers have decreed that turning their back at their funerals is more important than focusing on the fact that people are dying at the hands of the very people that NYC expects protection from.
Seriously disgusted.
Feral Child
(2,086 posts)Dating back to the 1840s.
They are major events and the procession is a virtual parade, an extremely somber occasion.
Had someone tried this at a cop funeral during the '60s, they would have caught a beating at the precinct cop bar after the funeral.
These officers are disrespectful of that tradition. Would they want that escapade at their own funerals?
They are disrespectful to the slain officers. Because they consider them as lesser officers, "tokens".
They're disrespectful to the families. The kids have learned that their fathers weren't treated with the same respect as other cops.
They're disrespectful to the mayor, because of his minority child (children?). Had a mayor with a white family made the same address on race relations, they would have chalked it up to "politicking" and ignored it beyond a few cynical locker-room jokes.
They're ultimately disrespectful to themselves and the shield they wear. Shows how much they care about the job.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I honestly can't believe how childish and disgusting this behavior is. It's a funeral! Show some respect and save your tantrums for later. Or better yet, act like an adult and deal with the fact that you are wrong - A LOT - and that people have a right to disagree with and protest against you.
Grow the f**k up!
Thanks for posting SheShe!
TNNurse
(6,927 posts)Is disrespectful and egomaniacal and hateful
Thespian2
(2,741 posts)Those who turned their backs to the mayor are no better than the members of the Westboro Baptist Church.
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)Your comment is spot on.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)(Wenjian Liu's widow, Pei Xia Chen, weeps while clutching a photo of her late husband.)
Liu's widow, Pei Xia Chen, said she had lost her "soul mate" and a "wonderful husband".
His father broke down at the funeral as he described how his only child would telephone after every shift during his seven years in the force to reassure his parents he was safe.
"You are the best son, you are the best husband," he said. "We are very proud of you, we love you forever."
He was his mother and father's ONLY CHILD. It's not noted how many, if any, of the NYPD came over to comfort the family while the Teabagger division pulled their stunt:
(A lone police officer could be seen facing forward as colleagues turned their backs on Mayor Bill de Blasio's speech in one section of the crowd.)
At least one man understood the funeral was to honor the fallen, and not make it about themselves. The Mayor spoke with respect of the higher calling Liu lived and died by:
Mayor de Blasio told the funeral service: "All of our city is heartbroken today."
Liu, 32, had lost his life while fighting for "all that is decent and good", he said. He paid tribute to a "young man who came here from China at the age of 12 in search of the American dream".
Consider the meaning of the words, "all that is decent and good." Then look at the shock, pain and sorrow in these faces. The loss of their brother is was made worse by this stunt.
It is a challenge to their own belief in their job. In coming days, how many will now feel separated from those who in their arrogance, turned their back on a fellow officer?
It wasn't just De Blasio they were turning their backs on. The Ramos and Liu's deaths were used as props to their mocking authority and to score political points.
Posted with Edits:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014980099#post100
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)Crying to hard. No words freshwestl
freshwest
(53,661 posts)For many years, due to China's policy. He joined came with is family at the age of twelve and became part of our nation.
No doubt he loved America and his job, trained for it and took it very seriously. His family did not deserve their show of bitterness to add to their pain.
The ones who made a circus of his death gave up their duty for the love of rightwing politics. And they have no shame.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Reporting of this funeral I did see ,the little I caught, was about the police reaction to the mayor. Nothing about the family or funeral itself
all the news all the time. when Obama changed the rules for immigration all i heard was the right's reaction to his "power grab." how about what the news IS sometimes? corporate media is so bad. so bad.
brer cat
(24,578 posts)Oldtimeralso
(1,937 posts)I want to thank the officers that showed their respect for the fellow officers, and not being part of the "gang of blue". I think that they are just that a gang with no respect or loyalty, they are just another gang on the streets of New York. Beware they are all armed and have unlimited firepower and resources to assist them!
Stellar
(5,644 posts)SCVDem
(5,103 posts)probably are most likely to abuse their authority. They have no respect for the command structure since the union boss Lynch isn't in it.
Yet they follow his wishes.
Call Trump. I have a job for him!
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)...a pack of spoiled brats that should be replaced with Men and Women of character.
easychoice
(1,043 posts)Good Men and Women...
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)But never surprising - we've learned to expect this from you.
mcar
(42,334 posts)They should be ashamed but I don't hold out any hope of that.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)need a good spanking!
1step
(380 posts)to erase any remaining goodwill from 9/11. (Most of the heroes on that day were firefighters, anyway.)
jwirr
(39,215 posts)disrespected they can't take. Thank you for posting them.
Cha
(297,323 posts)in their attempts to show off to the world just how obsessively prepubescent their mission is to diss Mayor de Blasio. They seemingly have no clue why they're even doing it or the damage it's done them.
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)Heading to bed with tears in my eyes and a very heavy heart.
This latest, thought not surprising hurts.
Cha
(297,323 posts)on it.. I was so hopeful they would proceed with "honor and dignity".
NYPD Commish Bratton to Cops: Dont Turn Backs on Mayor at Officer Lius Funeral
A heros funeral is about grieving, not grievance, Bratton wrote in the memo, obtained by the New York Post. After referencing the act of disrespect on the part of many officers who attended last weeks funeral, Bratton wrote, I issue no mandates and I make no threats of discipline. But I remind you that when you don the uniform of this department, you are bound by the tradition, honor, and decency that go with it.
Full letter at link..
http://www.mediaite.com/online/nypd-commish-bratton-to-cops-dont-turn-backs-on-mayor-at-officer-lius-funeral
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026034837
G'Night, she~ Mahalo again for your OP
madokie
(51,076 posts)fits here
Hekate
(90,714 posts)Words have just failed me at the enormity of this mindless stunt* and the media response to it. Several cops from Santa Barbara County went to New York for the first funeral, taking advantage of the offer of free flights. I hope to Gods they did not participate in this disrespect.
* Mindless stunt: A nationwide funeral for two random fallen cops as a response to the deliberate murders by cops of hundreds and hundreds of men and boys of color. It's hard to criticize a funeral, isn't it? Because no one should die by violence, and we are accustomed to revering cops as the men and women who put their bodies between us and danger. Tthese two cops did nothing to deserve our disrespect. But their deaths are being used as a means of distracting us from the rest of the crimes against society, those being committed by their brothers in blue.
nxylas
(6,440 posts)Has Tom Tomorrow's latest toon been posted on DU yet? I don't see it on the front page, and the mobile site doesn't seem to have a search box.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)freebrew
(1,917 posts)it's the first thing came to me too.
Remember the M$M sh*t-stirring at Wellstone's funeral? Where are they now?
These cops don't deserve any respect. Respect is earned, it doesn't come with a uniform.
It's really too bad someone can't fire them for being dumbasses, too stupid and arrogant to be cops.
Give 'em a f*cking broom.
Thanks she, for reminding us what a f'ed up place we live.
MadDAsHell
(2,067 posts)I've seen a lot of DU posts about how the families were disrespected, should be angry/sad, etc., but I haven't seen any comments from the family except for from a random uncle saying he understands how the cops feel.
While I understand DU'ers anger about this, if we're saying it's the family that's being affected, then I would use the family's reaction as my barometer, not my own.
Spazito
(50,365 posts)are focused on grieving not airing/displaying grievances. They have behaved with dignity, the NYPD officers might try that next time.
MadDAsHell
(2,067 posts)Spazito
(50,365 posts)only to see NYPD officers turn their back on him, what do you think?
The Wizard
(12,545 posts)the ones turning their backs are avid Pox watchers and Rash listeners, and as such are professional victims, despite the fact they're well paid Praetorian Guard or Hessian.
niyad
(113,348 posts)Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)The mayor needs to grow a pair and teach the NYPD that they answer to him.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Burf-_-
(205 posts)(or affirm) that I will support the constitution of the United States,
and the constitution of the State of New York, and that I will
faithfully discharge the duties of the office of ............, according
to the best of my ability; "
(http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/LAWSSEAF.cgi?QUERYTYPE=LAWS+&QUERYDATA=**CNSA13S1+&LIST=LAW+&BROWSER=EXPLORER+&TOKEN=11732905+&TARGET=VIEW)
But now all the United states, and New York constitutions and the people get in return is their backsides ?
These chumps have got to go since by turning thier backs literally on thier duties, they broke their oaths and they technically are no longer qualified to be police officers.
I found the one for my city too:
Oath of Office
Having been duly appointed a police officer of the City of **** and peace officer of the State of *****, I do solemnly swear that I will defend, enforce, and obey the Constitution and laws of the United States, the State of *****, and the Charter and Ordinances of the City of *****.
That I will obey the lawful orders of my superior officers and the regulations of the ***** Police Department.
That I will protect the rights, lives, and property of all citizens and uphold the honor of the police profession with my life if need be.
This I solemnly swear.
I Like this one better, but one can only hope they honor and keep their oaths these days with extreme skepticism.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)tenderfoot
(8,437 posts)calimary
(81,322 posts)PERIOD. MY GRIEVANCES trump your grieving for your lost loved one.