continue to say there is "no difference between the parties"

But then again anyone who "does" say that is really not a liberal, republican, democrat, or progressive, they have their own agenda here and it's not supporting the party, or democrats in general. The sad things is there are some gullible people here who seem to support those posters no matter what they say.

One would think that after 2010 people would have been able to figure out that the two parties are not the same, but 2014 shows they didn't learn anything from 2010.

The only thing standing between us and Democracy is corporate money. The only people standing in the way of Democracy are those who invest in and support the attackers.

Or maybe some trolls said such a thing at one time..

Not to say they aren't long time trolls... but yea, it does get said quite a bit more here than it should.

He isn't.

who cannot accept gradual change for the better.

Then I guess that makes non-critical Dem "dystopians"'

definitely here in many parts of the US.

because Republicans have been in the driver's seat for most of those 40 years.

Thanks in large part to "Republicans and Democrats are the same" morons and imbecile Naderites.

Dems have controlled the presidency a little under 20 years (since Obama hasn't finished his second term); Pubs have controlled it 20.


As for Congress: Republicans have controlled the House 16 of those 40 years, and the Senate 16 as well.

The Democratic party moved further to the right, filling the gap left over when the GOP got rid of all of their moderates.
So now we're left with the moderate Republican party and the off the charts RW nut job party.

But let's be honest, Wall Street and global corporations are fine with President Obama and his TPP and lobbying to open the door to Wall Street risky investments with public insured money. And they'll be giddy with either Hillary or Jeb Bush because they'll get the same kind of support and backdoor deals they've come to expect from the Moderate Republican Party or the off the charts Nut Job Party.

We're almost to the point where we should just let Wall Street appoint their candidate and maybe they'll let us use some of the billions saved by not staging another election charade and use it to shore up Social Security.

attempts to cut social security and other safety net programs and rallying their constituencies to do the same.

I don't have high hopes.

Please post a list of Democrats that have come out in favor of strengthening and expanding Social Security in the last four years -- and I don't mean "strengthening" it by cutting benefits.

The GOP is only doing what the Clintons tried to do in the mid-'90s, but were frustrated by Monica Lewinsky. Maybe we need to bring her out of retirement.

And the GOP base voted for them, the ones who rely on SSI, Food Stamps, et al.

But corporate media and the lying ass GOP will blame Obama and the Dems.

When you hate, you join their team. They are the greedy selfish haters. Interested only in money and power. See them for what they are: selfish, greedy, racist, ignorant, lying haters. Tell everyone you know at every opportunity how and why voting for them is BAAAAAD! Just don't harbor hatred in your heart.

from the earth, personally.

But it was the American people(majority) that put Congress into the hands of the Republicans...along with the assistance of those that didn't even bother to vote!

Democrats got the majority of votes for Congress -- by a margin of many tens of thousands of votes. More votes were cast for Democrats than Republicans. It's the damned gerrymandering that is our ruin.

other "statewide" races. The only explanation for the switch in the Senate is that people just didn't show up.

Democrats will have to use fillibuster until it' can no longer be found inm the dictionary.

Or recipients face a 20% cut in benefits.

I guess this is a taste of how that's going to go down...

Look for scores of media stories demonizing the disabled as they manufacture consent. After media outlets push the meme, they will report that the public approves of their echo, giving the GOP cover to do it!

They'll use many methods, faux scandals, tabloid stories and setting the disabled and and elderly against each other. Without unity, and appealing to human pettiness, it'll be easy.

The Koch agenda is right on schedule, and media will support it through diversions like the Bundy fiasco, giving non-stop media coverage because Sanders and Reid were getting traction in stories that revealed the GOP/Koch Libertarian agenda. This is in the David Koch Libertarian platform since 1980. Sanders put the whole thing online. And no, there's no change in LP state platform. This is still their philosophy.

They have gotten just about everything on their list, playing the CT, Tea, GOP and the public who don't understand what the world the Koch brothers are forcing on us to accept really. Note that Social Security and the Post Office are on the list:

BERNIE SANDERS Uncovers 1980 Koch Agenda- "What Do the Koch Brothers Want?"

What else do the Koch brothers want?

In 1980, David Koch ran as the Libertarian Party's vice-presidential candidate in 1980.

Here are just a few excerpts of the Libertarian Party platform that David Koch ran on in 1980:

We urge the repeal of federal campaign finance laws, and the immediate abolition of the despotic Federal Election Commission.

We favor the abolition of Medicare and Medicaid programs.

We oppose any compulsory insurance or tax-supported plan to provide health services, including those which finance abortion services.

We also favor the deregulation of the medical insurance industry.

We favor the repeal of the fraudulent, virtually bankrupt, and increasingly oppressive Social Security system. Pending that repeal, participation in Social Security should be made voluntary.

We propose the abolition of the governmental Postal Service. The present system, in addition to being inefficient, encourages governmental surveillance of private correspondence. Pending abolition, we call for an end to the monopoly system and for allowing free competition in all aspects of postal service.

We oppose all personal and corporate income taxation, including capital gains taxes.

We support the eventual repeal of all taxation.

As an interim measure, all criminal and civil sanctions against tax evasion should be terminated immediately.

We support repeal of all law which impede the ability of any person to find employment, such as minimum wage laws.

We advocate the complete separation of education and State. Government schools lead to the indoctrination of children and interfere with the free choice of individuals. Government ownership, operation, regulation, and subsidy of schools and colleges should be ended.

We condemn compulsory education laws and we call for the immediate repeal of such laws.

We support the repeal of all taxes on the income or property of private schools, whether profit or non-profit.

We support the abolition of the Environmental Protection Agency.

We support abolition of the Department of Energy.

We call for the dissolution of all government agencies concerned with transportation, including the Department of Transportation.

We demand the return of America's railroad system to private ownership. We call for the privatization of the public roads and national highway system.

We specifically oppose laws requiring an individual to buy or use so-called "self-protection" equipment such as safety belts, air bags, or crash helmets.

We advocate the abolition of the Federal Aviation Administration.

We advocate the abolition of the Food and Drug Administration.

We support an end to all subsidies for child-bearing built into our present laws, including all welfare plans and the provision of tax-supported services for children.

We oppose all government welfare, relief projects, and aid to the poor programs. All these government programs are privacy-invading, paternalistic, demeaning, and inefficient. The proper source of help for such persons is the voluntary efforts of private groups and individuals.

We call for the privatization of the inland waterways, and of the distribution system that brings water to industry, agriculture and households.

We call for the repeal of the Occupational Safety and Health Act.

We call for the abolition of the Consumer Product Safety Commission.

We support the repeal of all state usury laws.

to kpete:

How long before they outlaw paper money and use only gold coin?

... just like their idol, Ayn Rand, may she roast in Hell. The 1980 "platform" (great find, BTW!) basically calls for the dissolution of any and all laws that protect ordinary people from the psychotic depredations of evil monsters like the Kochs. They WILL destroy this country if they aren't stopped. But how do you fight such vast wealth and power when they own the maggots in the ruling Party who deflect any attempt to ban the financing of political campaigns by billionaires and corporations? Avenues of redress are few...

Celebrated anyone dying before but when these 2 go I will get that champagne.

No doubt their stupid and evil policies will lead to much death and suffering but the aim of it isn't to reduce the population.

SSDI is the last lifeline to many disabled Americans, young and old.

Cut it by 20%, and we will see much more unrest in America, unfortunately.

They are often isolated, too ill or incapacitated to do much other perhaps talk online or a small group of people. They don't have the means now to fight back, and won't if they lose 20% of their already far less than average. They are in many ways helpless targets and so the Randians are going for them first to eliminate the weakest from the population.

How can a group of people want to give even more of our wealth to the 1%?
It is our money because we paid into it.

Now that Republicans are in control, he can get his darling Chained CPI Bill passed.

The Republicans wouldn't agree to closing the tax loopholes.

Your post is disingenuous. The chained CPI was brought up by the president during negotiations during that big budget deal he was trying to do with Boehner a couple years ago. He was willing to do so to get other important things in return such as closing tax loopholes. Since ultimately the GOP could not make the deal he explicitely later said he took that off the table. It is not something he really wanted, it is something he was willing to compromise upon to deal with other issues. Thats what politics is about.

Everyone of that has worked for a pay check excluding the hypocrites in Congress (they are bribed and bought), paid into the SSDI and all the other programs, it is now time for a citizens lawsuit, two more years of this crap is not going to fly and changing the rules in mid stream to defund the program is just like what Hassert and Delay did to the postal system in 2007-08 with only a voice vote and not recorded is outrageous, we have a right and a democratic right to know how they vote.
And if any of you right wingers ever get hurt and become disabled, we want you send your SSDI pay check back, you have undermined not only yourself but the social contract to help others in this country this just shows how really self centered and selfness you really are, you have no concept of placing yourself into someone else's shoes and if your parents are on these programs then you truly are right wing hypocrites, by taking away what they have earned and contributed to this society

Add it as a rider to any GOP bills attempting to screw older and disabled Americans.

There's your death panel tea baggers!

I am getting too old for this shit!

compassionate death etc.

And wouldn't pay the rent. The GOPsters want a fire sale, with our land, houses, food, water, air and government. America is being sold off. It's not hard to understand preppers now, is it?

And then from that they take out for Medicare each month too. It's a shame for those of us who have fallen disabled.

How much are they giving away to their pals in the banks, military contractors, and tax breaks for the rich?

this evening. His heart was racing and wouldn't stop. Went to Urgent Care,
they did EKG, said go to ER, NOW, we will call an ambulance.

If he sees this article, he will really blow.

That is all.

It didn't take Boehner & friends long to start the destruction of America as we know it!

And that good ole boy Rush and my preacher all said to vote against those godless commie democrats!

DUH!

See you in the cardboard city on a trash dump you stupid FU**ING IDIOTS!

No multi-billionaires or big business or wall street will be harmed by this rule change!





Can u tell the republicans/koch bros/walmart heirs are firmly in charge yet?

God help us all!

The only way cons can win in 2016 is by cheating.

They could have just reallocated money from the OASDI trust fund to the SSDI program as has been done in the past. Something has to be done by 2016 or SSDI will face automatic cuts so it can balance the money in with the money out.

The last SSA trustee report I read said if they do use OASDI money to balance SSDI as has been done previously it will move the final OASDI insolvency date up to 2026 or 2027, it is currently at 2033.

If nothing is done at that point all Social Security recipients will see an estimated 75% cut so it balances.

The Republicans don't have to do anything really to hurt SS, they simply have not do anything and all this plays out.

I live on social security ... the GOP will starve me to death and leave me w/o my meds

elections have consequences.

The SSI Act. We must fight through any ways peaceable we can, starting with writing our US Rep and Senators.

leaving messages via tele phone.

One Republican on Fox "News" actually claimed that it was the Republican Party that initiated Medicare.

We will all be seniors one day, if we are so lucky. The safety net must be protected at all cost.

In 1912, he included an idea for health insurance as part of his campaign. That made it the first time a major presidential candidate had brought up such an idea.

However, you may recall, since everybody here is better at history than most Republican politicians, that Roosevelt ran as a member/founder of the Bull Moose Party, not as a Republican. In fine Republican tradition, Taft stole the Republican party nomination, though Roosevelt was clearly more popular. The Republican party bosses considered Roosevelt a "traitor to his class," not that they admitted to any class warfare, and cheated by stacking the convention with a lot of pro-Taft delegates. Roosevelt then posted this famous message on his Twitter account: "WTF, guys? Fairly seat delegates, or Ima gonna form my own gosh darn party!"

History often refers to Roosevelt as a "third-party candidate" in the election of 1912, yet he won more popular votes and more electoral votes than the Republican candidate, Taft. Taft suffered the worst defeat of any incumbent president seeking re-election.

Maybe that's what the guy was saying. But until I know otherwise I'll just assume he was lying, like they always do.

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You know, the Republican who ended slavery. As if today's Rs would not have been in the opposition to ending slavery. But Fox News and RW radio have brainwashed huge swaths of the citizenry who can no longer think logically and believe all sorts on insanely stupid shit.

The insanity of the American voter is mind boggling.

If they succeed in this, they will have their asses handed to them in two years.
NOBODY has been successful in DC by cutting seniors' benefits. They are very reliable voters, and if they go against these elderly folks, the Cons will see themselves out of office in no time!

We have more than enough wealth in this country to take care of poor seniors and the disabled. People paid into that. Cut military spending. Raise taxes on the top 2% Don't do this.

How will they decide who to cut? If someone's cut, can they appeal it?

All that talk about the Affordable Care Act creating 'death panels.' Cutting instead of expanding social security for seniors & disabled - that's the death panel.

and the seniors vote for them anyway

Taking away a persons ability to pay the rent, or eat, is economic terrorism. This is economic terrorism. The Republican Party is a terrorist organization.

ter·ror·ism noun \ˈter-ər-ˌi-zəm\

: the use of violent acts to frighten the people in an area as a way of trying to achieve a political goal.