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Historic NY

(37,451 posts) Fri Jan 9, 2015, 03:04 AM Jan 2015

BBC finds Russians fighting in Ukraine

It is eight months since the start of the conflict in eastern Ukraine, and the fighting has claimed more than 4,000 lives.

Russia has consistently denied its forces are involved, but the BBC has gained access to training camps inside Russia where fighters talk openly about taking on the Ukrainian army.

http://linkis.com/www.bbc.co.uk/news/AkxaK

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BBC finds Russians fighting in Ukraine (Original Post) Historic NY Jan 2015 OP

I would think it would be hard to remain so sneaky forever. Cha Jan 2015 #1

K&R. n/t Tarheel_Dem Jan 2015 #2

The entire story is two sentences long. elias49 Jan 2015 #3

I guess you did not look at the 3 minute video Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #5

Again? MattSh Jan 2015 #4

the main thing that is different Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #6

good one discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2015 #7

So, did those INDIVIDUAL Russians ... 11 Bravo Jan 2015 #11

Careful, you're going to upset the Putin boot-lickers...nt SidDithers Jan 2015 #8

This CAN'T be true. You linked to the BBC, not RT!!!!!!!11111one11! MohRokTah Jan 2015 #9

Funny how said BBC failed to find the pedophiles malaise Jan 2015 #10

Is that your all-purpose response to BBC stories you dislike? Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #14

Good to see official confirmation Blue_Tires Jan 2015 #12

I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #13

As with climate change deniers, if you can't accept the presence of Russians in Ukraine then it pampango Jan 2015 #15

Cha

(297,323 posts)

1. I would think it would be hard to remain so sneaky forever.

Reply to Historic NY (Original post)

Fri Jan 9, 2015, 03:08 AM

Jan 2015

Thank you, Historic NY

Tarheel_Dem

(31,235 posts)

2. K&R. n/t

Reply to Historic NY (Original post)

Fri Jan 9, 2015, 03:38 AM

Jan 2015

elias49

(4,259 posts)

3. The entire story is two sentences long.

Reply to Historic NY (Original post)

Fri Jan 9, 2015, 04:09 AM

Jan 2015

Nowhere does it claim that the BBC "..finds Russian soldiers fighting in the Ukraine."
Really crappy 'report'!

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)

5. I guess you did not look at the 3 minute video

Reply to elias49 (Reply #3)

Fri Jan 9, 2015, 07:39 AM

Jan 2015

that clearly shows and discusses the Russian fighters proudly displaying their passports and bragging how that are Russian and fighting in Ukraine.

MattSh

(3,714 posts)

4. Again?

Reply to Historic NY (Original post)

Fri Jan 9, 2015, 04:35 AM

Jan 2015

How many times is that now? I've lost count.

ON EDIT: This is news? It's been known since the summer that individual Russians have been fighting on the separatists side. Along with individual volunteers from about 15 other countries. And it's not just the separatists side either. The Ukrainian side also has individual volunteer fighters from at least as many countries as the separatists.

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)

6. the main thing that is different

Reply to MattSh (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 9, 2015, 07:40 AM

Jan 2015

is the Russians bring their artillery and tanks on "vacation" with them.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)

7. good one

Reply to Duckhunter935 (Reply #6)

Fri Jan 9, 2015, 04:36 PM

Jan 2015

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)

11. So, did those INDIVIDUAL Russians ...

Reply to MattSh (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 9, 2015, 05:01 PM

Jan 2015

steal their tanks and Surface-to-Air missiles from right under the nose of Vlad the Shirtless?

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)

8. Careful, you're going to upset the Putin boot-lickers...nt

Reply to Historic NY (Original post)

Fri Jan 9, 2015, 04:38 PM

Jan 2015

Sid

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)

9. This CAN'T be true. You linked to the BBC, not RT!!!!!!!11111one11!

Reply to Historic NY (Original post)

Fri Jan 9, 2015, 04:44 PM

Jan 2015

malaise

(269,056 posts)

10. Funny how said BBC failed to find the pedophiles

Reply to Historic NY (Original post)

Fri Jan 9, 2015, 04:47 PM

Jan 2015

in their own organization for decades. Wait - they never found them - others exposed them.
Have they found out who killed Dr David Kelley yet?

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)

14. Is that your all-purpose response to BBC stories you dislike?

Reply to malaise (Reply #10)

Fri Jan 9, 2015, 05:56 PM

Jan 2015

Because you're not at all averse to citing the BBC as a source when it suits you.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3558854

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)

12. Good to see official confirmation

Reply to Historic NY (Original post)

Fri Jan 9, 2015, 05:52 PM

Jan 2015

but anyone who was actually, you know, paying attention knew this by June at the latest:

http://www.newsweek.com/how-russians-are-sent-fight-ukraine-296937
https://medium.com/war-is-boring/the-war-in-ukraine-is-killing-lots-of-russians-cdf321c369

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)

13. I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you.

Reply to Historic NY (Original post)

Fri Jan 9, 2015, 05:54 PM

Jan 2015

Vladimir, I am very very disappointed by you.

pampango

(24,692 posts)

15. As with climate change deniers, if you can't accept the presence of Russians in Ukraine then it

Reply to Historic NY (Original post)

Fri Jan 9, 2015, 06:46 PM

Jan 2015

can never be PROVEN. If your world view would be shattered by acknowledging climate change or the presence of Russian fighters in Ukraine, then you cannot allow that to be proven to you.

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