Could you flesh that out a little more?

It's my understanding that it's still under state department review.

Thanks.

Key paragraph:

Or,are we seeing the run up to the 2016 Election talking points,or,is this the master plan of Clinton's agenda. Got a hunch we are seeing Mr. Obama clearing the deck of many wedge issues that Jebby Bush would like to use. Interesting things are afoot. Notice there is nothing about the Citi Group gift and Oil is heading for thirty bucks and change. Can you say,Tax Payer Bailout Coming for the so called Energy Companies to the tune of at least one trillion.

Saw a thread earlier today where the OP was making the case that he still has plenty of wiggle room to eventually support the pipeline and probably will in the end.

When you're dealing with people who have agendas to denigrate the POTUS at every turn facts/reality are not something that will get in their way.

i personally believe Obama will kill the pipeline, based on the way he is talking about it lately, but that's a personal judgement. If someone thinks he's going to approve it I can't tell them for sure that they're wrong. They might be right.

But when you're "rooting" for the POTUS to reverse course, as that OP most assuredly is doing, it calls into question your own credibility. If you're saying, as you are, that he'll probably kill the pipeline, but may not, that's an entirely different point of view.

He does know it is not a job producer and harms the environment though - so I am hopeful. I give him credit on this so far.

Sad bunch of fucks.

Most of the are still setting their hair on fire and running around freaked out about "doom and gloom" for everyone because of something the president "might do" even though they have no proof to back it up. I will keep checking back to this thread though to see if at least one of them might be willing to admit they have been wrong.

pipe line is or Obama's roll in it. Stop acting like it is a done deal.
Obama supports the middle class and the TPP. That in itself is a contradiction.

I said is was very unlikely that any of the anti Obama crowd would admit they were wrong on things. Now one can say "but he might do this or that later on", but why? People need to see what is going to happen, THEN complain, not complain no matter what happens. As for the TPP do you know what it says? So many here don't want to wait and see, they just want to attack the president. Again why?

I for one believe the president will veto it if republicans send it to him. If he doesn't then I WILL admit I was wrong. Same with the TPP, if it really is as bad as everyone, who have never read it, say it is, I too will be against it, but only after I "really" know what is in it. I won't just accept hearsay about what someone "heard" someone else say was leaked by someone is supposed to know about a so called "secret" deal being made. Of course thats just me, you can do whoever you want.

something to influence the decision. You don't wait to see if a storm wipes you out to decide you should have prepared for it.

But you also don't prepare for a storm just because you "think" one might come "someday" down the road, but you are certain when. I don't have any problem with those who disagree with the president, I have a problem with those who constantly complain, never say anything positive, and try and paint him as a "do nothing" president. Everyone knows who those posters are. Sadly some here are gullible enough to buy into some of the right wing crap being spewed here and they simply live in a "doom and gloom" world, and that's pretty sad.

I guess it's not over until it's a done deal, but the rhetoric seems to be toward vetoing anything that comes to Obama's desk for signing.

That won't stop the hair on fire brigade from their daily rounds of "doubt", no mater what the president, or the WH says.

...I've NEVER yet heard admin stated they would ever sign such a bill.

Yet, that is exactly what chatter I hear here on DU all the time.... the mind reading, assumptive rhetoric that Obama will do whatever it takes to get Keystone built.

sense to anyone other than ODSers or not.

At least according to his press secretary.

Before the vote Friday, White House spokesman Eric Schultz told reporters the president's position on the pipeline hadn’t changed despite the Nebraska court ruling.

“As you know it is undergoing rigorous review, and we’re going to wait for that review to be completed before the president makes any decisions,” Schultz said.



http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/01/09/house_passes_keystone_pipeline_bill_125207.html#ixzz3ON6YiImt

and at that time, the president wasn't saying much, but his state department seemed to be pushing FOR it. At THAT time, he wasn't talking about using a veto for anything.

and that everything must always be anti progressive, because Obma doesn't negotiate with his hand open on the table.

he's not fucking around with them on something he intends to veto anyway. That was MY assumption at that time. Was he planning to veto it back then? I don't know but if he was he was wasting his own people's time. I suspect that he was undecided at that time and was keeping his options open. I'm curious if the people who were "yakking" about it had any influence on his decision.

The election is over. Democrats lost the Senate. The President has no majority to work with. He is free to do what he thinks is right - not what he thinks will be to the good of the Democratic Senate majority. It's a different world.

This kind of stuff makes DU suck.

there's just no pleasing those that want so badly to have Obama show as a non- progressive on every major or serious issue. Still waiting for one teeny tiny retraction. There's a lot of people out there that should be very glad that Obama has turned out to make more of a Democratic Party stand that they had previously admitted.

similarly, there was a lot of yakking to put pressure on him about SS, medicare, marriage equality and health care. Which, as members of an engaged electorate, we should yak amongst ourselves and with our elected reps and president. Or do you think we should only yak after the deed is done?

The yakking on health care was a failure because what we got instead was a demand that we buy insurance or suffer monetary consequences.

what a load.....

I for one, both yakked here and was involved in real life. Still am, actually. Still working to get single payer in California.

I think I'm on firm footing when I say you are a special breed and are in the minority here at DU!!!