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appleannie1

(5,067 posts)
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 11:01 PM Apr 2012

I was a poll worker all day today in PA.

We had to asked everyone for picture ID for the first time. I bet I could identify every single person that watches FOX. All it did for the workers was make one hell of a lot more work and make more room for errors. The lines in November are going to be horrendous and SLOW.

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I was a poll worker all day today in PA. (Original Post) appleannie1 Apr 2012 OP
that's the purpose. make voting as difficult as possible. shame on them. spanone Apr 2012 #1
How did the Fox Suckers act? rufus dog Apr 2012 #2
overjoyed that they had FINALLY done something about all that fraud. appleannie1 Apr 2012 #5
Ah, just my question below. Thanks. freshwest Apr 2012 #15
Out of curiosity Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #3
Today even if they did not have ID, they could still vote. It was a dry run for November. appleannie1 Apr 2012 #6
I am SO opposed to this. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #11
Testimony from an immigrant rights group rep in Arizona... pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #17
I have put less than 3,500 miles on my (only) car Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #20
I was a poll worker in PA too. We took notes on who might need help getting ID. Demit Apr 2012 #4
I am in a rural area but I have thought about possibly volunteering to drive people in Pgh that need appleannie1 Apr 2012 #7
BEST ADVICE of the season, Demit! calimary Apr 2012 #13
+1,000. That could be an OP by itself. Thanks for the fire. freshwest Apr 2012 #16
how did PA get that through? DOJ said no to Texas. There DOJ said that Texas had not proven a Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2012 #8
State. We don't have a large Hispanic population. It was done here to get poor people and black appleannie1 Apr 2012 #10
So ironic. The "saving grace" in Texas WAS that they have a large Hispanic population. They had to Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2012 #23
Adding that there is a large hispanic population on the east side of the state Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #12
That's because of the Voting Rights Act Alcibiades Apr 2012 #18
We had one women who had gotten married and her name and address did not jive with what was in the appleannie1 Apr 2012 #9
Thanks for being there. What did the Dittoheads say? freshwest Apr 2012 #14
I worked the polls in PA, also today & we've come up with a........ mrmpa Apr 2012 #19
That's a great idea. But, aren't you supposed to match the ID to the name on the voter list? Are Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2012 #24
The voter will keep their ID out, and the poll worker will use it to check the registration book.... mrmpa Apr 2012 #27
That's a great idea MadrasT Apr 2012 #25
I was an observer. My personal polling station did not ask for id, merely handed out the notice msanthrope Apr 2012 #21
Working as intended. toddwv Apr 2012 #22
I was surprised that I was not asked for ID at my polling place. PA Democrat Apr 2012 #26

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
3. Out of curiosity
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 11:10 PM
Apr 2012

Did your polling place captains turn anyone away because they didn't have ID? That law isn't in effect until the fall (primary was voluntary), but one wonders if some polling places made it seem mandatory.

Just a topic I made a note to follow up on later this week to see if there were any allegations of people not being allowed to vote because of ID issues.

appleannie1

(5,067 posts)
6. Today even if they did not have ID, they could still vote. It was a dry run for November.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 11:19 PM
Apr 2012

We only had one women that never got a driver's license and I had to laugh because she was Republican. If she does not spend the money to get a non driver's license, she will not be able to vote in November.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
11. I am SO opposed to this.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 11:34 PM
Apr 2012

For the very reason you stated. "If she does not spend the money to get a non drivers license".

It is a damn poll tax.

I live in a city where a LOT of people don't drive and this bugs the daylights out of me.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
17. Testimony from an immigrant rights group rep in Arizona...
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 12:20 AM
Apr 2012

...indicated that 10% of eligible voters in the state don't have a driver's license. That includes Native Americans living on reservations--another group that has actively opposed voter ID requirements.

And it was their current Governor who led the charge on voter suppression when she was AZ Secretary of State.

During the '04 campaign I was proud to march with U.S. Rep. and civil rights hero John Lewis (D-GA) when he led a voter suppression protest in Ohio. (I don't normally collect autographs, but I still have the big Kerry placard that Mr. Lewis signed for me.)

This election year is the worst in a long time in terms of all the voter suppresion laws that groups like ALEC and FAIR have managed to push through state legislatures.


Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
20. I have put less than 3,500 miles on my (only) car
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 12:38 AM
Apr 2012

each of the last 2 years. If it wasn't for some weird need for mobility on notice (and the fact it is paid for), I probably wouldn't even keep the thing.

That is not uncommon for us up here. Parking and insuring vehicles can be as much as a car payment.

Ps - forgot to post my envy. John Lewis is a living legend.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
4. I was a poll worker in PA too. We took notes on who might need help getting ID.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 11:14 PM
Apr 2012

If we do our jobs helping people get those IDs before November the lines won't be slow.

My point is, it's the law now no matter how much we hate it. The Republicans know how to plan ahead. Let's do the same. Beat them at their own effing game.

appleannie1

(5,067 posts)
7. I am in a rural area but I have thought about possibly volunteering to drive people in Pgh that need
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 11:21 PM
Apr 2012

a ride to a driver ID center.

calimary

(81,323 posts)
13. BEST ADVICE of the season, Demit!
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 11:41 PM
Apr 2012

Let's figure out an end-run around all the voter laws. Take note of all those who might need special help or special processing - special paperwork, WHATEVER. Let's help them get it done, jump all the hurdles, pay any fees - I'd love to know if there's some Democratic clearinghouse for donating so that poor people and fixed-incomers can get whatever paperwork they'll need, even if they can't afford it themselves.

REMEMBER, PLEASE!!! We have to win. That's the ONLY way we can turn back this voter suppression. That's the only way we can build a lasting firewall against further encroachment upon a woman's right to choose. That's the only way to guarantee that the poor still have a voice at the ballot box - and to protect that most basic American right. And on. And on. And ON.

Outthink them. Be proactive. Try to anticipate their next move, and/or how to head off their next move.

These bastards seem most adept at being like a fast-moving cancer - metastasizing and poisoning everything they touch. They're pretty damn good at setting fires EVERYWHERE, seemingly faster than we can even spot them, much less put them out. They're keeping us busy - like my karate teacher always talked about, using the "parable" of the guy who held out through a sparring tournament just by jabbing. Just kept 'em busy. Jab, jab, jab, jab, jab, jab, jab - over and over, coming from every direction, overwhelming and non-stop. Til the opponent tired out and started making mistakes. Keep 'em busy. Time for US to do that to them, for a change. Keep the attacks going, large and small, long and short, day and night, from every direction, in every department, on every playing field and even some that don't exist. Just Everywhere.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
8. how did PA get that through? DOJ said no to Texas. There DOJ said that Texas had not proven a
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 11:22 PM
Apr 2012

voter ID law wouldn't disenfranchise Hispanic voters without IDs.

Was that a state ID law? or local?

appleannie1

(5,067 posts)
10. State. We don't have a large Hispanic population. It was done here to get poor people and black
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 11:26 PM
Apr 2012

voters off the books. I am hoping that it is challenged here too.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
23. So ironic. The "saving grace" in Texas WAS that they have a large Hispanic population. They had to
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 06:54 AM
Apr 2012

prove to DOJ that there weren't too many Hispanics without drivers licenses. But, who is
Hispanic does not reside in the voter records. They had to guess by surname. Then,
they took that database segment and matched it against the DMV records and came up with "too many" without.

PA, for sure, doesn't have income on their voter records. Probably not race either. So, there
would be no way PA could prove that these groups would be disenfranchised or wouldn't be.
Interesting dilemma.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
12. Adding that there is a large hispanic population on the east side of the state
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 11:36 PM
Apr 2012

Not to mention, plenty of public transportation between the busses and trains, and lots of people rely on that and do not drive.

Alcibiades

(5,061 posts)
18. That's because of the Voting Rights Act
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 12:25 AM
Apr 2012

The VRA gives the DoJ the power to rule if the effect of a change is discriminatory in those states covered, which are those states that had had Jim Crow laws, i.e. the south. The ironic effect is that the voting rights of everyone are better protected in the south than elsewhere.

appleannie1

(5,067 posts)
9. We had one women who had gotten married and her name and address did not jive with what was in the
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 11:25 PM
Apr 2012

book. She voted on a provisional ballot and we told her how to go about getting it changed before November and advised her to get it taken care of ASAP.

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
19. I worked the polls in PA, also today & we've come up with a........
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 12:34 AM
Apr 2012

solution for November. I would like to say we won't be asking for ID's, but unless the ACLU wins in court, that won't be the case. We had 6 people working and in November we will have one person dedicated to asking those people in line for their ID's, this will allow for the poll worker to make sure that it's a good ID, and to stop a hold up in the line by people searching for their ID's when they are checking in at the table.

Too many times today, women specifically would scrounge through their purses looking for their wallets, not a problem today, but in November it will be a hassle.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
24. That's a great idea. But, aren't you supposed to match the ID to the name on the voter list? Are
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 06:58 AM
Apr 2012

you in a Dem precinct? Sounds like you must be. Maybe you could get the word out on your idea
to all dem party offices in PA. Just in case

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
27. The voter will keep their ID out, and the poll worker will use it to check the registration book....
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:37 AM
Apr 2012

this is a way to keep the line moving and sort out problems with ID's before it gets to the registration table.

Yep a Dem precinct, yesterday we had 20 Repubs, 67 Democrats and 4 Independents (special election being held) who voted out of a possible 495 voters.

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
25. That's a great idea
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 07:03 AM
Apr 2012

Let the people in line know they should have their ID in hand before they get to the table.

I voted in PA yesterday. Had my ID ready and there were more workers than voters out here so it wasn't a problem, but I can see how it could be in November.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
21. I was an observer. My personal polling station did not ask for id, merely handed out the notice
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 12:43 AM
Apr 2012

that id would be needed for November.

Who directed you to ask for id and what polling station was this????

The law was not in effect yet.

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
26. I was surprised that I was not asked for ID at my polling place.
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 08:11 AM
Apr 2012

Weren't they supposed to ask? My husband voted later in the day and he was not asked either.

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