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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI was a poll worker all day today in PA.
We had to asked everyone for picture ID for the first time. I bet I could identify every single person that watches FOX. All it did for the workers was make one hell of a lot more work and make more room for errors. The lines in November are going to be horrendous and SLOW.
spanone
(135,846 posts)rufus dog
(8,419 posts)appleannie1
(5,067 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Did your polling place captains turn anyone away because they didn't have ID? That law isn't in effect until the fall (primary was voluntary), but one wonders if some polling places made it seem mandatory.
Just a topic I made a note to follow up on later this week to see if there were any allegations of people not being allowed to vote because of ID issues.
appleannie1
(5,067 posts)We only had one women that never got a driver's license and I had to laugh because she was Republican. If she does not spend the money to get a non driver's license, she will not be able to vote in November.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)For the very reason you stated. "If she does not spend the money to get a non drivers license".
It is a damn poll tax.
I live in a city where a LOT of people don't drive and this bugs the daylights out of me.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)...indicated that 10% of eligible voters in the state don't have a driver's license. That includes Native Americans living on reservations--another group that has actively opposed voter ID requirements.
And it was their current Governor who led the charge on voter suppression when she was AZ Secretary of State.
During the '04 campaign I was proud to march with U.S. Rep. and civil rights hero John Lewis (D-GA) when he led a voter suppression protest in Ohio. (I don't normally collect autographs, but I still have the big Kerry placard that Mr. Lewis signed for me.)
This election year is the worst in a long time in terms of all the voter suppresion laws that groups like ALEC and FAIR have managed to push through state legislatures.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)each of the last 2 years. If it wasn't for some weird need for mobility on notice (and the fact it is paid for), I probably wouldn't even keep the thing.
That is not uncommon for us up here. Parking and insuring vehicles can be as much as a car payment.
Ps - forgot to post my envy. John Lewis is a living legend.
Demit
(11,238 posts)If we do our jobs helping people get those IDs before November the lines won't be slow.
My point is, it's the law now no matter how much we hate it. The Republicans know how to plan ahead. Let's do the same. Beat them at their own effing game.
appleannie1
(5,067 posts)a ride to a driver ID center.
calimary
(81,323 posts)Let's figure out an end-run around all the voter laws. Take note of all those who might need special help or special processing - special paperwork, WHATEVER. Let's help them get it done, jump all the hurdles, pay any fees - I'd love to know if there's some Democratic clearinghouse for donating so that poor people and fixed-incomers can get whatever paperwork they'll need, even if they can't afford it themselves.
REMEMBER, PLEASE!!! We have to win. That's the ONLY way we can turn back this voter suppression. That's the only way we can build a lasting firewall against further encroachment upon a woman's right to choose. That's the only way to guarantee that the poor still have a voice at the ballot box - and to protect that most basic American right. And on. And on. And ON.
Outthink them. Be proactive. Try to anticipate their next move, and/or how to head off their next move.
These bastards seem most adept at being like a fast-moving cancer - metastasizing and poisoning everything they touch. They're pretty damn good at setting fires EVERYWHERE, seemingly faster than we can even spot them, much less put them out. They're keeping us busy - like my karate teacher always talked about, using the "parable" of the guy who held out through a sparring tournament just by jabbing. Just kept 'em busy. Jab, jab, jab, jab, jab, jab, jab - over and over, coming from every direction, overwhelming and non-stop. Til the opponent tired out and started making mistakes. Keep 'em busy. Time for US to do that to them, for a change. Keep the attacks going, large and small, long and short, day and night, from every direction, in every department, on every playing field and even some that don't exist. Just Everywhere.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)voter ID law wouldn't disenfranchise Hispanic voters without IDs.
Was that a state ID law? or local?
appleannie1
(5,067 posts)voters off the books. I am hoping that it is challenged here too.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)prove to DOJ that there weren't too many Hispanics without drivers licenses. But, who is
Hispanic does not reside in the voter records. They had to guess by surname. Then,
they took that database segment and matched it against the DMV records and came up with "too many" without.
PA, for sure, doesn't have income on their voter records. Probably not race either. So, there
would be no way PA could prove that these groups would be disenfranchised or wouldn't be.
Interesting dilemma.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Not to mention, plenty of public transportation between the busses and trains, and lots of people rely on that and do not drive.
Alcibiades
(5,061 posts)The VRA gives the DoJ the power to rule if the effect of a change is discriminatory in those states covered, which are those states that had had Jim Crow laws, i.e. the south. The ironic effect is that the voting rights of everyone are better protected in the south than elsewhere.
appleannie1
(5,067 posts)book. She voted on a provisional ballot and we told her how to go about getting it changed before November and advised her to get it taken care of ASAP.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)mrmpa
(4,033 posts)solution for November. I would like to say we won't be asking for ID's, but unless the ACLU wins in court, that won't be the case. We had 6 people working and in November we will have one person dedicated to asking those people in line for their ID's, this will allow for the poll worker to make sure that it's a good ID, and to stop a hold up in the line by people searching for their ID's when they are checking in at the table.
Too many times today, women specifically would scrounge through their purses looking for their wallets, not a problem today, but in November it will be a hassle.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)you in a Dem precinct? Sounds like you must be. Maybe you could get the word out on your idea
to all dem party offices in PA. Just in case
mrmpa
(4,033 posts)this is a way to keep the line moving and sort out problems with ID's before it gets to the registration table.
Yep a Dem precinct, yesterday we had 20 Repubs, 67 Democrats and 4 Independents (special election being held) who voted out of a possible 495 voters.
MadrasT
(7,237 posts)Let the people in line know they should have their ID in hand before they get to the table.
I voted in PA yesterday. Had my ID ready and there were more workers than voters out here so it wasn't a problem, but I can see how it could be in November.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)that id would be needed for November.
Who directed you to ask for id and what polling station was this????
The law was not in effect yet.
toddwv
(2,830 posts)We need to make Election Day a holiday.
PA Democrat
(13,225 posts)Weren't they supposed to ask? My husband voted later in the day and he was not asked either.