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cali

(114,904 posts)
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 05:29 PM Jan 2015

A Guide to the Charlie Hebdo Shooting Conspiracy Theories

It's inevitable that in the wake of tragedy, sorrow and mourning give way to think pieces, handwringing, and a flock of deranged conspiracy theories. Here, a guide to some of the most creative ideas about the Charlie Hebdo murders, proposed by everyone from Russian tabloid editors to a Turkish mayor.

"Magical Jews" orchestrated the Charlie Hebdo attacks to make Muslims look bad.
This one's reportedly popular in some Muslim-heavy French suburbs like Sevren, where many abstained from attending the weekend's massive "Je Suis Charlie" rallies for fear of retaliation. The Daily Beast spoke with Sevren residents who believe that the weapons and I.D. cards found at the crime scene were intentionally placed there to implicate Muslims. "It was a conspiracy designed by the Jews to make Muslims look bad," one man told the Beast.

Others the Daily Beast spoke to believed the event to be the work of enchanted Jewish people. Those who planned the attack are a "'hybrid race of shape shifters' who have extraordinary abilities," reports the Beast. "They know how to get in everywhere," one man said. "They are master manipulators."

The United States government did it.
According to the notorious conspiracy-theory cesspool Infowars, the United States government may have taken a break from planning the next Benghazi to "sponsor" the Charlie Hebdo killers. "Who ordered the attack against Charlie Hebdo?" asks French 9/11 conspiracy theorist Thierry Meyssan in a post on the site, pointing out that the Kouachi brothers' actions differ from a close-read interpretation of jihadist theory. "We should consider all assumptions and admit that at this stage, its most likely purpose is to divide us; and its sponsors are most likely in Washington."

Meyssan isn't alone in this theory. The front page of a popular Russian tabloid published yesterday asked, "Did the Americans plan the Paris terror attacks?" The Telegraph writes that this is just one example of a number of conspiracy theories regarding the attack and the U.S. government that have come out of Russia in recent days.

Mossad, the Israeli intelligence service, planned the attack.
Melih Gokcek, the mayor of the Turkish city Ankara, said that he believed Israel was behind the shooting in order to "boost enmity towards Islam."

“Mossad is definitely behind such incidents," Gokcek said, according to the Financial Times. He also drew parallels between France's moves to recognize a Palestinian state and the attack.

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http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/01/guide-to-the-charlie-hebdo-conspiracy-theories.html?mid=google

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A Guide to the Charlie Hebdo Shooting Conspiracy Theories (Original Post) cali Jan 2015 OP
Another to blame mossad leftynyc Jan 2015 #1
I am shocked...just SHOCKED, some think it was the Jews and/or Israel! Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #2
If you dig down deep enough in most CTs, you eventually get to zappaman Jan 2015 #5
Best meme ever! Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #8
DU has its own... Come on down, Skip!!! PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #3
Indeed. And he is an expert at pattern recognition and critical thinking. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #4
Yes, I don't buy into the very convenient "Damn Muslims" meme that so many find comfortable. NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #6
truth is not synonymous with facts. cali Jan 2015 #9
extremist groups going to use this to validate their own nastiness? uppityperson Jan 2015 #25
Evidence is not necessary when dealing in fantasy. Oklahoma_Liberal Jan 2015 #48
Tune in next week when NYC_SKP digs deeper into the wetness of water. nt Dreamer Tatum Jan 2015 #10
! zappaman Jan 2015 #12
Rocks: actually soft and squishy - they just tense up when we touch them. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #13
Perfectly safe to look into the sun. It's just they don't want you Dreamer Tatum Jan 2015 #22
There's no bullying or nastiness or swarming on this board. Nope, nothing like that. NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #36
Maybe some latitude is being granted in light of your odd and evolving stance. nt Dreamer Tatum Jan 2015 #43
And here I thought it was because of my good looks. NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #44
Tag Team Octafish Jan 2015 #47
Thank you! NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #51
It's refreshing to see you have a knack for making friends wherever you go. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #66
And out comes the victim card! Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #67
OK, that was excellent. riqster Jan 2015 #61
How did things ever happen in this world before the MIC NuclearDem Jan 2015 #17
There has ALWAYS been a MIC. KittyWampus Jan 2015 #20
They were called the NIC back then. FSogol Jan 2015 #26
Everything happened. There just weren't as many self-styled iconoclasts Dreamer Tatum Jan 2015 #21
Cool bumper-sticker for the uber-trendy. Not really anything else, though... LanternWaste Jan 2015 #23
hey Skip, who here beyond oft banned trolls and a rare duer is saying "damn Muslims"? Who? uppityperson Jan 2015 #24
Since you asked... NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #27
I changed my opinion of some of the CH cartoons once they were explained that uppityperson Jan 2015 #28
Funny how the opinion of the actual moderate Muslims in France and elsewhere don't count. KittyWampus Jan 2015 #29
huh? I didn't say they dont count because of course they do uppityperson Jan 2015 #32
So, who is behind the false flag operation you're geek tragedy Jan 2015 #34
Patterns! Patterns everywhere! AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #68
What's your opinion on Sandy Hook and Obama's birth certificate? nt geek tragedy Jan 2015 #33
The usual suspects? Boreal Jan 2015 #41
As our site owner says about that blog, "any DUer would not want to be associated with such filth" muriel_volestrangler Jan 2015 #52
There is nothing even remotely Boreal Jan 2015 #63
I got a hide today for a link. Desert805 Jan 2015 #65
See #77 for the extensive anti-semitism muriel_volestrangler Jan 2015 #80
Interesting which group seem to use that site...repeatedly! Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #77
The guy that said it could be Desert805 Jan 2015 #7
Pool date is off. Maybe you can join our swim team. NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #50
I love that idea! Desert805 Jan 2015 #64
OK, that made me laugh. MIRT has been taking care of newbie troofers, uppityperson Jan 2015 #18
Or Lizard People!! PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #19
Oh yeah. 840high Jan 2015 #59
Were the Jews also responsible for the fatwa against Salman Rushdie, I wonder? (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #11
I think you should ask NYC_SKP. I'm sure he has an opinion. cali Jan 2015 #15
Gosh, I'm so popular! NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #35
If you look really hard, you might note a pattern of people being allowed to use watercraft in the AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #69
Explicit Lyrics... NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #74
I'm not detecting any usable patterns in this music video. Maybe someone who is more of an expert AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #75
Any grassy knolls in Paris? NuclearDem Jan 2015 #14
A hybrid race of shape shifters????? How does one even begin to counter that? uppityperson Jan 2015 #16
that description fits Sarah Palin pretty well though. KittyWampus Jan 2015 #30
That last word has an extra "f". riqster Jan 2015 #62
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2015 #39
Is lg a shapeshifter? uppityperson Jan 2015 #42
We feel that Library Girl may have been such. NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #45
you met LG? oooooooooo uppityperson Jan 2015 #46
Let me put it this way... greatauntoftriplets Jan 2015 #49
Tears leave stains. NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #53
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2015 #55
Hey lg! You never say hi to me anymore. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #56
I SO saw her first! NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #57
I guess we will have to fight for her. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #60
Happy New Year to you, too! greatauntoftriplets Jan 2015 #58
Sadly DU has too much material just as fully bonked out as this stuff. Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #31
You left out The New World Order did it daredtowork Jan 2015 #37
You're both wrong! Everyone knows that it was done COLGATE4 Jan 2015 #54
And it was plotted at the Bohemian Grove! greatauntoftriplets Jan 2015 #73
Shhh. They're not supposed to know that. COLGATE4 Jan 2015 #76
Post removed Post removed Jan 2015 #38
Such a good article UglyGreed Jan 2015 #40
there are people here who claim the kind of shit in the OP cali Jan 2015 #79
so now I'm anti–Semitic UglyGreed Jan 2015 #82
"LOL!" indeed. Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #83
Let me explain she was UglyGreed Jan 2015 #84
And yet, you accused her of something she didn't do. Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #85
That is the way I saw it UglyGreed Jan 2015 #87
Funny, didn't see that post. Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #88
And I found it funny that yesterday UglyGreed Jan 2015 #90
Do you think "provocative attire" is an excuse for rape? Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #91
what??? No, I most certainly was not implying that. cali Jan 2015 #86
Thank you for the UglyGreed Jan 2015 #89
no problem. I confused you with someone else here cali Jan 2015 #92
Did I read that right?! Enchanted Shape-shifting Jews? icymist Jan 2015 #70
sounds like the name of an Indie Klezmer band. KittyWampus Jan 2015 #71
LOL! icymist Jan 2015 #72
Nothing can be crazier than believing Sandy Hook was a false flag operation. Rex Jan 2015 #78
Yeah I've been seeing that one, too daredtowork Jan 2015 #81
anti-gunz muslim communist atheist kenyans trying to get gunz confiscated. nt. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #93
Since when do dead children on the evening news, equal votes for office? Rex Jan 2015 #94
Kick... SidDithers Jan 2015 #95
It's amazing that some posters here still think he's a good source. zappaman Jan 2015 #96
Wayne Madsen thinks it was a false flag by Western Intelligence agencies... SidDithers Jan 2015 #97
Of course he does. zappaman Jan 2015 #98

Behind the Aegis

(53,994 posts)
2. I am shocked...just SHOCKED, some think it was the Jews and/or Israel!
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 05:33 PM
Jan 2015

Oh wait, no I am not. It always strikes me as bigoted when these theories come out, not just for the blatant anti-Semitism, but the soft bigotry behind the insinuation that Muslims (sometimes Arabs, sometimes Africans), aren't capable of such things. It is a form of infantilization, IMO.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
5. If you dig down deep enough in most CTs, you eventually get to
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 05:37 PM
Jan 2015

THE JOOOOOOWZ!!!!!!
Sickening that some folks fall for these CTs so easily.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
6. Yes, I don't buy into the very convenient "Damn Muslims" meme that so many find comfortable.
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 05:38 PM
Jan 2015

Truth is rarely comfortable, and as a skeptic of all things pushed by the media and the right wing, I tend to look deeper.

I don't believe that this event is about the cartoons; it was about making the biggest splash with the least amount of effort and Hebdo was perfect.

I believe that groups that stood to benefit, fringe groups, power groups, MIC groups, separately or in combination organized and launched this effort.

But it's not the Muslim faith, and it wasn't about the image of the prophet.

That whole story line is for suckers, and there is no shortage of them.

Just turn on the TV.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
9. truth is not synonymous with facts.
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 05:42 PM
Jan 2015

What groups are you referring to?

In any case, the evidence doesn't support your wild wishful thinking. There is exactly zero evidence to support your conspiracy rich junk.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
22. Perfectly safe to look into the sun. It's just they don't want you
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 05:58 PM
Jan 2015

to see the reel of Sinatra killing Kennedy.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
36. There's no bullying or nastiness or swarming on this board. Nope, nothing like that.
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 07:06 PM
Jan 2015

What is peculiar is when it comes right out for all to see.

comeon, gimme kiss





Octafish

(55,745 posts)
47. Tag Team
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 08:36 PM
Jan 2015

Pretty soon, the Flock gets it so the replies are stacked up in a way that makes it nearly impossible to defend.

"So. You're an anti-Semite?" -- The Flock

Makes one want to quit DU, almost.

Don't let them get you down, NYC SKP!

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
51. Thank you!
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 08:44 PM
Jan 2015

My childhood experiences have served me well.

I guess the first and second and third experiences with bullying don't really ever leave you.

In my case they make me stronger.

Peace.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
67. And out comes the victim card!
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 09:44 PM
Jan 2015

Yup, after tacking from horrendous victim blaming to absurd truther bullshit, the problem is not with what you are posting, the problem is the people reading your posts and commenting on them with insufficient deference. It really borders on blasphemy.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
21. Everything happened. There just weren't as many self-styled iconoclasts
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 05:56 PM
Jan 2015

trying to look slick by doubting it all.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
23. Cool bumper-sticker for the uber-trendy. Not really anything else, though...
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 05:58 PM
Jan 2015

"Truth is rarely comfortable..."

Cool bumper-sticker for the uber-trendy. Not really anything else, though...

uppityperson

(115,681 posts)
24. hey Skip, who here beyond oft banned trolls and a rare duer is saying "damn Muslims"? Who?
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 06:02 PM
Jan 2015

The cartoons were the excuse to hurt others with the goal being a number of possibilities ranging from recruitment, retribution and a war, to simply being assholes taking advantage of a situation. Saying the Charlie Hebdo staff were not victims in their own right but only as pawns, that goes into blaming them for their own deaths and where you lost me.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
27. Since you asked...
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 06:32 PM
Jan 2015

There are, on this very board, haters of religion who are unwilling to let go of the belief that the motive was purely a religious one as a reaction to the depiction of the prophet.

I was at first of the same mind, but as I read more and looked harder my opinions changed.

Still, haters of religion on this board are solidly going with the most simple conclusion, and that's OK, but it also closely matches what we are hearing from the usual suspects in the talk radio world.

There are just a handful of them, and they are angry with me this week.

Ah well.

uppityperson

(115,681 posts)
28. I changed my opinion of some of the CH cartoons once they were explained that
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 06:40 PM
Jan 2015

they were from movie scenes or posters in France that I didn't know. They still are crude and rude, but the context made them more understandable.

We have seen the best and the worst of DU this last week.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
68. Patterns! Patterns everywhere!
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 09:46 PM
Jan 2015

Wheels within wheels, I tell you!

BUT only the super-duper-good at seeing patterns folks can see it, you see.

 

Boreal

(725 posts)
41. The usual suspects?
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 07:38 PM
Jan 2015
Second, there is absolutely zero doubt, none whatsoever, that the AngloZionist Empire is behind the "transnational Takfiri infection" of our planet. It all began during the Cold War and the "brilliant" Brzezinski/CIA plan to unleash the crazies against the Soviet forces in Afghanistan. This is when the US literally financed, organized, trained, equipped and, most importantly, federated the Wahabi freaks for the first time. Since, we saw them in action in Chechina, Bosnia, Kosovo, Libya, Syria, Iraq, and many other places and now we see them "in action" in Paris. Hollande, Sarko and his "unofficial Foreign Minister" Bernard Henri-Levi played a key role in unleashing these monsters against Libya and Syria just as the French "New (pseudo-) Philosophers" like Alain Finkelkraut played a key role in unleashing these monsters against Bosnia. So here is the key point I will stress in bold: the Takfiri maniacs who committed all the murders in France are NOT "children" of the "Islamic Umma" but of the French deep-state and the Anglo-Zionist Empire. They "own" these freaks, not Hassan Nasrallah or Ramzan Kadyrov!

Third, the propaganda machine of the AngloZionist Empire is telling us that "Islam is the enemy" or that "Islam is not compatible with western values". But to prove their point they use examples which prove nothing: the example of the Takfiri crazies unleashed, I will never cease to repeat it, by the AngloZionists. The merits and faults of Islam as a religion have nothing to do with the events of Paris. Nothing. Takfirism is to Islam what Nazism is to the Western civilization: a vicious and pathological expression of demonic hatred masquerading as the defense of a culture/civilization/religion. Nazism does not "prove" that the West is inherently evil and Takfirism does not prove that about Islam. Now, please pay attention, it *might* be that there is something really wrong (or not) with western civilization or Islam, but you cannot prove that by using the example of Nazism or Takfirism.


http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2015/01/open-letter-to-saker-community-and-all.html

I would add the the "freedom of speech" thread running through this narrative is also BS. France doesn't have freedom speech. It has strict hate speech laws against insulting any religion or race as well as questioning anything about the holocaust. Brigitte Bardot has been prosecuted no less than five times for "offensive" remarks about Islam so how is it that Charlie Hebdo has been able to churn out not only offensive but downright obscene material in violation of those same hate speech laws?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,382 posts)
52. As our site owner says about that blog, "any DUer would not want to be associated with such filth"
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 08:44 PM
Jan 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12596602#post1

since it's a virulently anti-semitic blog. So if you're implying that NYC_SKP thinks like that in any way, I think you should remove the link.

Or are you saying you agree with it? Post #38 makes it look like you are saying we should read what the vile blog says and consider it. Is that the kind of trash you normally read?
 

Boreal

(725 posts)
63. There is nothing even remotely
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 09:17 PM
Jan 2015

"anti Semitic" about that blog. Yes, I encourage everyone to read everything, even *gasp* blogs that might give a Muslim perspective (not that that blog is Muslim, it is not). I routinely read all sorts of political opinion and perspectives, including foreign, as well some through translator sites. I even read writers and sites I never agree with, or downright hate, just to get a clear picture of what's out there.

What you are doing is trying to bully me and anyone else who might read whatever is not on your approved circle jerk echo chamber reading list (and I loathe bullies). That's fine if one wants to be a programmed robot instead of a thinking human being who exposes themselves to a wide variety of information in order to form a better rounded viewpoint.

Now, go ahead and take issue with what was written in that snip I posted, the main point being that it was the United States with it's support for the Mujahideen, which morphed into Al Qaeda, that began this world wide scourge of fanatical Islamic terrorism.

Desert805

(392 posts)
65. I got a hide today for a link.
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 09:30 PM
Jan 2015

Not the content, mind you-- because the content linked to nothing but main stream news and polling sites, but because the link aggregator I found through Google was deemed "banned" here.


Awesome!

muriel_volestrangler

(101,382 posts)
80. See #77 for the extensive anti-semitism
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 04:49 AM
Jan 2015

You point me to what you excerpted, and I see "the AngloZionist Empire" in the first sentence. Yes, that site is obsessed with Jews. That article, before it devolves into a begging letter, is raising the ridiculous 'false flag' nonsense.

Its argument about the US is not convincing. Yes, they financed the mujahideen in Afghanistan in the 80s. But they haven't done so for a long time, and they have had no influence with them for decades. To say a group in the west "is behind" all extremist Islamic violence is false. To call that group "the AngloZionist Empire" is anti-semitic.

Behind the Aegis

(53,994 posts)
77. Interesting which group seem to use that site...repeatedly!
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 01:59 AM
Jan 2015

From that site:

"I have received a lot of outraged comments for my statement that Orthodox Judaism is at its core just a type of "anti-Christianity".

If you take the time to study the roots and evolution of what we called "Judaism", and which could be called something like "rabbinical/Phariseic Talmudism", you will come to the inevitable conclusion that modern "Judaism" is not the religion of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob but the religion of Maimonides, Karo and Luria. This religion has *nothing* in common with the religion of the Jewish people before Christ, just as modern Jews, especially the Ashkenazim, have no genetic connection to the Jewish people of 2000 years ago. We are dealing with a fraud whose main effort is to prove that it is the real thing, just as the Papacy is trying to prove that it is "the" original Church of Christ while in reality neither one of them have their roots in the times of Christ.
http:// vineyardsaker.blogspot.com /2014/12/off-topic-but-apparently-needed-judaism.html


What is certain is that organized Jewry certainly does not give a damn about the well-being or safety of the average non-politicized Jew. In fact, the more Jews get assaulted or killed as a direct results of the criminally reckless policies of the leaders of organized Jewry - the better for the latter, as that just fuels their favorite myth about Gentiles being inherently and mysteriously anti-Jewish.

I am convinced that most of the so-called "anti-Semitism" out there is deliberately fueled by the 1%ers who are at the top of most Jewish organizations. Yet another reason not to fall into their trap and to categorically reject the crude and primitive anti-Jewish propaganda spewed by various racist groups or individuals and remember the words of Saint Paul "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places" (Epistle to the Ephesians 6:12).
http:// vineyardsaker.blogspot.com /2014/04/how-jewish-elites-deliberately-endanger.html


"I am fully aware of the role which Jews played in the horrors of the 20th century, I am aware that they declared war on Russia first, and on Germany after that (both times the order came from organized American Jewry and Jewish banks), I loathe both Rabbinical Judaism and Zionism because both are based on self-worship and racism. I don't need lectures on all the bad things Jews have done or are still doing. Believe me, I have read more anti-Jewish books than most people here (if only because I read them all not only English, but also in Russian which has at least 10 times as many anti-Jewish books as there are in English).

I will go as far as saying that Rabbinical Judaism is, in my sincerely held conclusion, Satanic at its core and at least as evil as Wahabi Islam."

http:// vineyardsaker.blogspot.com /2014/05/ukrainian-news-two-phone-call-leaks.html


http:// vineyardsaker.blogspot.com /2014/06/very-interesting-admission-by-senior-us.html

"From 1991 (and really even before that) to 1999 Russia was an imperial colony run by a collection of mostly Jewish oligarchs who hated Russia and who literally stole everything they could."

http:// vineyardsaker.blogspot.com /2014/07/could-glazev-be-right-request-for-your.html

"There is absolutely nothing that he said that I can argue with .
Ukraine was/is occupied by the US.
His reasoning for the regional war in Europe that can only benefit the US, is spot on.
The Zionists not only don't care about the population of Ukraine, they clearly want them all dead.
No amount of casualties can slow them down.
Ukraine has only 0.2% of Jewish population and yet the government is 99% comprised of Jewish Zionists -this makes no sense.
This whole conflict is directed against Russia, China and Eurasia.
The Zionists hate Slavs because Slavs know more about Zionists than any other race on the planet.
The conflict is not designed to be stopped in Ukraine, it is designed to engulf as much of Europe as possible.
The fact that Russia has people like Glazev in the government is a very encouraging and hopeful sign.'

http:// vineyardsaker.blogspot.com /2014/07/frances-1-zionist-bashes-putin-and.html

"All the zionists and quislings working for the empire are coming out to attack Russia. They must be desperate. Hope the Russians could liberate the rest of Europe from this evil empire chains, just like in the time of Czar Alexander'

"At the end of the day, I do not believe that Zionists have a special hatred for Palestinians or even Arabs, much less Russians. Rather they despise "the nations" which stand in their way."

The Magistrate



Yup, absolutely nothing anti-Semitic going on!

Amazing, but oh so expected!

Desert805

(392 posts)
7. The guy that said it could be
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 05:39 PM
Jan 2015

a false flag attack by French special forces shouting "God is great!" in Arabic? *edit* (and controlled by an unnamed evil corporation...)

That guy's awesome!




We're set to shoot pool some day, even.

uppityperson

(115,681 posts)
18. OK, that made me laugh. MIRT has been taking care of newbie troofers,
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 05:54 PM
Jan 2015

but skip? Oh dear. And won't we have red faces when it turns out there is a hybrid race of shapeshifters?

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
35. Gosh, I'm so popular!
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 06:59 PM
Jan 2015

What I'm trying to figure out is where the hell the people who just went by on jet skis rented them and if they are even legal to use in these parts.

I don't really care for jet skis running along the same ocean where I saw two dolphins play earlier today.

Beautiful day here.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
69. If you look really hard, you might note a pattern of people being allowed to use watercraft in the
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 09:48 PM
Jan 2015

ocean.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
75. I'm not detecting any usable patterns in this music video. Maybe someone who is more of an expert
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 11:10 PM
Jan 2015

in such things will take pity and decipher it for me.

Response to uppityperson (Reply #16)

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
45. We feel that Library Girl may have been such.
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 08:32 PM
Jan 2015

I once flew to Chicago, O'Hare, greataunt and mo will attest, to meet her.

It was a waste of jet fuel and intergalactic resources.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
53. Tears leave stains.
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 08:47 PM
Jan 2015

They don't come out.

Happy new year darlin!



Any minute now my first visitor from my old town where I grew up should arrive for a glass of wine and sunset. OMG!

I miss you, hope you're well, and am working on another visit.

Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #53)

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
31. Sadly DU has too much material just as fully bonked out as this stuff.
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 06:49 PM
Jan 2015

Plus there are several here who have shape shifted from one set of rhetoric spoken with great certainty to another without missing a beat and without so much as a hint of shame about it.

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
37. You left out The New World Order did it
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 07:10 PM
Jan 2015

The New World Order may or may not involve the Rothschilds, the CIA, or France itself running the False Flag in the name implementing greater National Security measures.

This all has something to do with France recognizing Palestine, Israel turning to Russia in retaliation, France making nice with Russia for fear of what Israel was doing, and then the New World Order (Illuminati Zionists) attacked Charlie Hebdo either to send a message to France to toe the line or to give France a pretext for those National Security measures and to attack Muslims.

Oh and Charlie Hebdo was targeted because they were mean to Jews and Catholics, too - Zionist and Vatican conspiracy rolled into one!

http://m.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/194698/Proof_Charlie_Hebdo_Attack_Was_a_False_Flag/

The fodder for Charlie Hebdo truthers has already outstripped 9/11 truthers. I don't think anyone believes the mainstream media accounts, so the real story is up for invention. I think political leaders will just fan the flames if they over react with national security or retaliatory measures which make it look like they were just waiting for an incident to whip out their dicks.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
54. You're both wrong! Everyone knows that it was done
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 08:48 PM
Jan 2015

by the Illuminati, using their Masonic hordes and directed by the Bilderberg Group. They just want us to think it was done by Mossad.

Response to cali (Original post)

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
79. there are people here who claim the kind of shit in the OP
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 04:41 AM
Jan 2015

Not the "shape shifting Jews" shit, but the other shit. And you seem to have a similar take.

Behind the Aegis

(53,994 posts)
83. "LOL!" indeed.
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 07:19 AM
Jan 2015

cali made no such accusation. Did you miss the word "NOT"? (I put in bold and caps so you don't miss it again.)

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
87. That is the way I saw it
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 07:32 AM
Jan 2015

my perception, my bad. It happens all the time, yesterday people here was accusing me of supporting rape of women wearing short skirts........... funny did not see you to come to my aid.

Behind the Aegis

(53,994 posts)
88. Funny, didn't see that post.
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 07:33 AM
Jan 2015

But what I did see is you falsely accusing someone of accusing you of being anti-Semitic, which you found funny.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
90. And I found it funny that yesterday
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 07:39 AM
Jan 2015

people were saying I support rape if the attire is provocative. At least we both are have a sense of humor....

Behind the Aegis

(53,994 posts)
91. Do you think "provocative attire" is an excuse for rape?
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 07:41 AM
Jan 2015

If so, then there is a real problem.

RAPE is NEVER the victim's fault NEVER!

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
86. what??? No, I most certainly was not implying that.
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 07:32 AM
Jan 2015

I was implying that you seem to believe some other group committed these acts and not self-professed Muslims- or directed and used them. Am I wrong? If so, I apologize.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
89. Thank you for the
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 07:37 AM
Jan 2015

explanation I took the comment the wrong way. No I do not believe some other group did this act, I believe people with extreme religious views with a touch of mental illness caused the death of many people. I never wrote anything other than that but we all make mistakes and your apology is accepted.

icymist

(15,888 posts)
70. Did I read that right?! Enchanted Shape-shifting Jews?
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 10:03 PM
Jan 2015

This is a script for the SI FI channel, right?!

My roommate is still laughing as I read the first three paragraphs to her!
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
78. Nothing can be crazier than believing Sandy Hook was a false flag operation.
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 02:10 AM
Jan 2015

I can't even figure that one out.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
94. Since when do dead children on the evening news, equal votes for office?
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 06:15 PM
Jan 2015

The stupid involved in that one makes me think I lost 30 IQ points just trying to figure it out.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
95. Kick...
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 10:06 PM
Jan 2015

glad to see the thread promoting the Paul Craig Roberts version of the false flag conspiracy, that was posted in Progressive Media Resources, was hidden.

How racist, white nationalist Paul Craig Roberts could possibly be considered as Progressive Media is a giant fucking mystery. I can't figure how anyone would think he's credible.



Sid

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
97. Wayne Madsen thinks it was a false flag by Western Intelligence agencies...
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 10:13 PM
Jan 2015

Of course, only the most simple-minded would think either PCR or Wayne Madsen was credible.


Sid

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
98. Of course he does.
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 10:17 PM
Jan 2015

He's a homophobic, anti-Semite.
Anyone on DU who links to his articles should be ashamed of themselves.
Unless they agree with his lunacy...

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