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President Obama and his administration refuses to use the word Muslim when
speaking about extremists. So instead of calling them radical terrorists
President Obama and company should be calling them Muslim extremists or
radical Muslim terrorists. Both CNN and MSNBC's Morning "dead intern" Joe
Show were pusing this meme big time this morning.
Liberal Media =
BTW ISIS is the direct result of W's war in Iraq to make Dick Cheney truck loads of
money and if the media was honest they would point that out.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)and mindless Terrorathon...giving the terrorists exactly what they want...fear, xenophobia and their hate speech amplified...to attack Obama.
WTF?
The slow motion, underhanded sedition of the mass media would be the top story in America except for the awkward problem of no mass media would cover it.
Botany
(70,567 posts)And you are right about the sedition in the media because I can't think of a
better example of that then CBS' Lara Logan and Sen. Lindsey Graham putting
together a phony story .... aka a pack of lies .... about the attack on the
American outpost in Benghazi in order to undermine President Obama and
his administration.
I watched just a little of CNN and Morning "Dead Intern" Joe's show this AM and it was
like Karl Rove wrote their scripts. They have no shame and so I will try to not to watch
that crap and my days will be better.
If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." J Goebbels
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)And the way the TV puppet talking heads willfully carry these buckets of information slop tells you how they are PR experts, not journalists.
Botany
(70,567 posts)No other journalists have called you? Really?
No, youre the only one. You dont have journalists over there anymore, what they have is public relations people. Thats what they have over in America now. Two-hundred and fifty thousand people in public relations. And a dwindling number of actual reporters and journalists.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Hebdo interviews and comments in the media in the same way.....telling.
earthside
(6,960 posts)The murderers in Paris were extremist Muslim terrorists.
The perpetrators of 9/11 were fanatic Muslims affiliated with al Qaida.
They are what they are.
The KKK is populated with radical Christian extremists.
Dr. Tiller was murdered by a Army of God Christian.
RSS (Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh) is an extremist Hindu group that has committed violence.
The operative terms are: extremist, radical, terrorist.
No one should have any problem with calling the terrorists and killers what they are; anyone with even a modicum of intelligence understands that a radical fringe of any does not define the larger group.
atreides1
(16,091 posts)"...that a radical fringe of any does not define the larger group."
The key word being 'intelligence', the media isn't trying to reach those with a modicum of intelligence!!!
earthside
(6,960 posts)Even as I typed that I knew I was going out on a limb considering the Tea Party and the corporate media.
Nevertheless, progressives shouldn't play to the lowest common denominator.
blm
(113,083 posts)to commit acts of barbarism and war while pretending to be acting for religious purpose.
Barbaric charlatans using religion as their 'excuse' for their blood thirst and greed.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa
George Bush: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq'
President told Palestinians God also talked to him about Middle East peace
George Bush believes he is on a mission from God, according to the politician Nabil Shaath.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Botany
(70,567 posts).... God told him to help the American people get health care and that is why he ran
for POTUS?
BTW did you noticed how quickly "the great ebola threat" went away after the election?
It was almost like the republicans and the media was trying to sell and stoke our fears
of ebola for political reasons.
Takket
(21,620 posts)So why should the president??
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)The terrorists themselves certainly thought of themselves as Muslims.
And really, anyone can be a Muslim if they say the Shahada (and mean it).
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)I am just disagreeing with the poster's claim. I understand why Obama doesn't use the word Muslim and have no objection to his decision not to do so.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)real and true and beloved follower of Mohammed, just like all the other 1.6 billion Muslims who did the same without a bomb strapped to their waists?
Does it make it more sincere if you cross your fingers?
You know who else is very clear these terrorists are not real Muslims?
The President of a country called France, not that we should listen to their leader.
No if, ands or buts.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Can you tell me what you think they would have to do?
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Allow me to provide you with that information.
HOW TO BECOME A MUSLIM
It is easy to become a Muslim. To become a Muslim one must simply pronounce the Shahaadatayn (Declaration of Faith) with sincerity and conviction.
http://www.muslimconverts.com/howtoconvert/
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)an act of Christian terrorism smearing all Chrstians?
blm
(113,083 posts)Many Republican elite are actually Ayn Randians or Mammonists and they don't fool anyone who follows the teachings of Christ.
madokie
(51,076 posts)as long as we continue to allow the so called free media to conduct business in the manner they presently are.
How much plainer can it be put I ask
can someone show me where I'm wrong in making that statement
treestar
(82,383 posts)Whatever he calls them does not change what they did. They think it would fan anti-Muslim hatred if he dwelt on that description, so of course they are mad at him for not doing so.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)At least not without a disclaimer like "warning: content contains 90% bigotry and lies"?
How about a 24 hour "The Disinformation Channel", or H&I (Hate and Insults)?
The Charle Hebdo Free Speech Channel?
Why not, there is a huge market for that kind of stuff.
treestar
(82,383 posts)And shown up for the unprofessional hacks that they are. Really they should be ashamed at not being real journalists.
Triana
(22,666 posts)I just had to tweet these to some chest-thumping dufus who was blaming Obama for ISIS:
Fox Hides Bush's Actions To Claim Bush Gave "Visionary" Warning About Islamic State
Fox News accused President Obama of ignoring warnings from President Bush about the ramifications of a U.S. withdrawal from Iraq, claiming that Bush's warnings in 2007 predicted the rise of the Islamic State extremist group. In reality, Obama followed the extended withdrawal timeline that Bush set in 2008 with the approval of military leaders
http://mediamatters.org/research/2014/09/05/fox-hides-bushs-actions-to-claim-bush-gave-visi/200662
Fox News Host Embarrassed By Fact Checkers After Blaming Obama for Bush Mistake
Recently, Fox News Jeanine Pirro tried to claim that President Obama is responsible for the leader of the I.S.I.S., Abu Bakr al Baghdadi, being free. Pirro said, The head of this band of savages is a man named Abu Bakr al Baghdadi, the new Osama Bin Laden. A man released by Obama in 2009, who started ISIS a year later. And when Baghdadi left Camp Bucca, where the worst of the worst were held in Iraq, he threatened his American jailers saying, Ill see you in New York. Just one small problem with that its not true. In fact, it got a rating of False by Politifact. If you want to blame a president for the release of al Baghdadi, the only one you could blame is George W. Bush. Politifact found exactly two possible scenarios behind the release of al Baghdadi and they both point to the Bush administration.
http://www.forwardprogressives.com/fox-news-host-embarrassed-fact-checkers-blaming-obama-bush-mistake/
FACT CHECK: ISIS Leader, Baghdadi, Was Released By Bush, Not Obama
Since the right-wing is so intent on assigning blame for Baghdadis campaign of terror on the president who was in office when he was set free, then according to their logic it is all Bushs fault. But dont expect Fox News to report the facts as laid out by actual journalists. They wont even report the comments of their own witness, Col. King, who appeared on another network (ABC) and admitted that he could be mistaken. It turns out that he never knew the name of the man he presumed to be Baghdadi, he just thought there was a resemblance to the man he encountered. Nor will they report Col. Kings remarks to the Daily Beast where he downplayed the threat posed by Baghdadi, saying that He was a bad dude, but he wasnt the worst of the worst.
PolitiFact went on to note that, even if Col. Kings account were correct, and Baghdadi was still in custody in 2009, Obama still could not be held to blame for Baghdadis release. The terms of the Status of Forces Agreement with Iraq required the U.S. to turn over all prisoners to the custody of Iraqs criminal system. That agreement was negotiated and agreed to by the Bush administration in 2008.
http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=17047
How the Top Iraqi Terrorist Was Helped by a Bush-Signed Agreement
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, who heads the jihadists threatening Baghdad, was freed from prison under a deal W. struck with Iraq.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-release-george-bush
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The chest-thumper on Twitter then criticized my SOURCES ie: "You're quoting Mother Jones as a credible source? HA!"
My response: "You can't argue with the FACTS, so you criticize the source. FAIL."
There it is.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)like a moron trying to claim these animals weren't Muslim. That's not for anybody else to say. They quite clearly said they were doing what they were doing to avenge the prophet. I think it's a stupid story but the President is trying to thread a needle that does't exist. They are extremist Muslims and pretending otherwise makes them look like idiots.
benld74
(9,909 posts)and watch the GOP heads explode!