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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThanks, Nancy Reagan. Now kids are drinking hand sanitizer.
Holy shit..."Just say no" has resulted in $400 weed unaffordable to teens, so they moved on to cold medications and huffing anything they can find at Walgreens. The latest, as I hear on the nooz this morning, is kids boiling down hand sanitizers to achieve 120 proof alcohol.
Jesus fucking christ! We outlaw a natural plant and throw you in prison for it, but we'll sell you Purell for $2. What is wrong with this picture? Drugs will not ever, ever go away. It is part of the long history of humanity. The least harmful of these is pot...but Nancy said "Just say no." Instead, kids are distilling hand sanitizer for kicks.
FSogol
(45,491 posts)It gets worse.
Atman
(31,464 posts)Seriously? They've found a way to get high from grandpa's soak?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,743 posts)as the real ones you put in your bathtub. They are labeled as bath salts so they can be sold (sort of) legally on line.
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/features/bath-salts-drug-dangers
Maine-ah
(9,902 posts)is the place for the shit too. It's also causing problems in my area. Last summer we had a guy on it that caused over $30k worth of damage to the ICU at the local hospital. The hospital in Bangor had to actually put in a special unit for those that come in on bath salts.
rustydog
(9,186 posts)It is nasty shit that causes extremely violent outbursts...
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)astonishingly useful plant. It is beneficial in everything from health care to textiles, replenishes the soil, can be used for fuel and lubricant, and on and on.
Scout
(8,624 posts)these are stupid kids. they will do stupid shit whether drugs are legal or not.
what the fuck is wrong with them that they are so stupidly desperate to "get a buzz."
i'm all for pot legalization, but i don't think legalizing pot or other drugs will get rid of stupidity among teenagers.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Wanting to escape it, even if only temporarily though mind altering substances, is a fairly natural reaction even if the means is less than ideal.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)there is something terribly wrong with who we are collectively and what we have allowed and what we respect.
I think kids feel it more and stronger than older people.
Scout
(8,624 posts)teenagers have been doing stupid shit since there have been teenagers.
i really don't think that suddenly our society is just so awful for them that they have to try to get high from hand sanitizer to escape their problems.
MrDiaz
(731 posts)On the news a few months back they were saying that teenage kids are soaking tampons in vodka at parties, and sticking them up their a** in order to achieve "insta-drunk"... What ever happened to hanging with some friends and sippin a couple of cold ones, these kids are crazy.
Johonny
(20,854 posts)the drug of choice seems to rotate from alcohol, to pot, to crack, to meth, to hand sanitizer, to paint, to choking etc... There is no indication kids today have magically invented the idea of it's fun to get high and that they are indestructible and the consequence of taking drugs won't catch up with them. The world is so bad is just one of many excuses why them getting high is ok. There are a ton of excuses why people convince themselves it is just great to do these things. Even the happy silver spooned people take shit loads of drugs and seem to have always done so.
FSogol
(45,491 posts)joeglow3
(6,228 posts)I figured we would have moved forward on this issue in the last 3 years, but sadly have not.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)and in his second term. I doubt very much it will be legalized in the next while because as a collective, people have our priorities all fucked up so that isn't going to change in a short time - thanks to the liar media and the paid traitors to humanity.
I could see him doing that - but not right now for sure. He has all kinds of restraints on him what with the Pugs and the backstabbers picking at his flesh daily.
Have to be a wait and see on this one.
madokie
(51,076 posts)if there actually is a need there it should be handled with kids gloves in the medical profession not in the courts and jail cells. I've never known nor have I heard of a pot smoker doing someone bodily harm to get some weed. I've known a few thief's who would steal pot but thats another story altogether.
Education is the answer but with education it takes time and with the holiethanthou's time is something they don't seem to have unless of course its time to tell you how righteous they are.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Stop and take a look at who is making money from it:
Police Depts are getting enormous grants from the Feds/DHS for all sorts of state of the art weapons.
Plus, Police Depts get to keep any and all items, including money, they can grab during a "drug bust"
and they don't have to give it back even if
A. no charges are filed and/or
B. the victim is declared innocent of any charges.
Private for profit jails/prisons get paid to lock up people, no matter what the conviction.
Whole layers of Federal, state and local agencies are getting paychecks because of the drug laws.
Then throw in any treatment facilities, drug courts, parole officers, etc..
It's a lucrative business.
madokie
(51,076 posts)I used to be one of the pot smokers but due to health I no longer smoke.
I agree with what you're saying questioning my failure statement but I wasn't looking at it from that angle.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)as much as looking it from the other side.
Also I see a recent pattern which suggests Big Pharma is trying hard to develop ( and probably patent)
TCH for medicinal purposes, which means free grown pot will NEVER be legal.
( I had to give the stuff up when my body turned against me, too)...
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)or the current price of pot or for that matter the fact that teenagers can't drink in the US (unlike much of the world) which would eliminate a lot of this problem.
lynne
(3,118 posts)- Nancy and "just say no" is to blame? HUH? Possibly a better target would be ATF. Or, how about the kids for being dumb enough to do such a thing?
Quite silly.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)I can score you a $20 sack(quarter) of swag in 30 minutes LOL (mexico)
Now if you want hydro, that's running $20 a gram usually. I get an eighth for $60 from my dude
WinniSkipper
(363 posts)...than the MMJ prices here in CA
Dr. Strange
(25,921 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)even if I could still toke...
ahhh...those were the days, when we bought"lids" for next to nothing.
Then I would get paranoid and hide it, then forget where I had hidden it....
Moving day was always full of surprises.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)This has nothing to do with illegality and everything to do with the fact that some folks are just too fucking stupid to be allowed to leave the house.
People can survive just fine without getting high, y'know?
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)Every generation produces their share of dumbasses.
DesMoinesDem
(1,569 posts)Nancy Reagan is responsible for marijuana being illegal?
Marijuana costs $400 dollars?
Kids are getting drunk on something other than over-the-counter alcohol because they can't afford pot? How the hell does that make any sense? Shouldn't you be blaming alcohol prohibition for everyone under 21? What the hell does pot have to do with getting drunk?
The OP is laughable.
emilyg
(22,742 posts)Response to DesMoinesDem (Reply #18)
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Beacool
(30,250 posts)Come on, that's beyond a stretch. Kids have been doing idiotic things since the world was created. As for legalizing pot, I'm for it as long as it's sold to adults. Same as with cigarettes, kids shouldn't be smoking pot.
Butterbean
(1,014 posts)Teenagers do stupid shit, all the time, regardless of what's legal and what's not. I'm all for legalizing ALL drugs, not just pot, but I don't blame Nancy and her Just Say No campaign for the kids who are running around distilling Purell. Shit happens.
Taverner
(55,476 posts)whistler162
(11,155 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)n/t
OneTenthofOnePercent
(6,268 posts)Sugar, turbo yeast, 5 gallon container, airlock valve. Just $5-$10 will make 5 gallons of ~20%ABV mash in a few weeks. Run it through a coffee filter then twice through a carbon filter and you have clean water and ethanol. 5 Gallons of 40 proof booze is ALOT of dirt ceap hooch. Better yet, put a nice litte distillation lab together for less than $50 and you can get 160 proof booze easily... 180+ proof with more effort.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Until then? Not so much.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Or even the criminalization of drugs, but these kids do not have to get high on anything. What the hell? Hand sanitizer! Mouthwash sounds better. Ugh!