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raccoon

(31,111 posts)
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 07:10 AM Jan 2015

Boy Says He Didn't Go To Heaven; Who'da thunk it?

Boy Says He Didn't Go To Heaven; Publisher Says It Will Pull Book

Nearly five years after it hit bestseller lists, a book that purported to be a six-year-old boy's story of visiting angels and heaven after suffering a bad car crash is being pulled from shelves. The young man at the center of The Boy Who Came Back from Heaven, Alex Malarkey, said this week that the story was all made up.

The book's publisher, Tyndale House, had promoted it as "a supernatural encounter that will give you new insights on Heaven, angels, and hearing the voice of God." But Thursday, Tyndale House confirmed to NPR that it is taking "the book and all ancillary products out of print."

The decision to pull the book comes after Alex Malarkey wrote an open letter to retailer LifeWay and others who sell Christian books and religious materials. It was published this week on the Pulpit and Pen website.

"I did not die. I did not go to Heaven," Alex wrote. He continued, "I said I went to heaven because I thought it would get me attention. When I made the claims that I did, I had never read the Bible. People have profited from lies, and continue to. They should read the Bible, which is enough. The Bible is the only source of truth. Anything written by man cannot be infallible." He concluded, "Those who market these materials must be called to repent and hold the Bible as enough."

Here are a few key background details of the story: Alex Malarkey was paralyzed at the age of 6 when he was in a car wreck. He then spent two months in a coma. He's now a teenager. The book lists him as a co-author along with his father, Kevin Malarkey.


http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2015/01/15/377589757/boy-says-he-didn-t-go-to-heaven-publisher-says-it-will-pull-book

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Boy Says He Didn't Go To Heaven; Who'da thunk it? (Original Post) raccoon Jan 2015 OP
Hey Alex malaise Jan 2015 #1
Yep! And the material in the bible was hand picked to promote that propaganda of that time, and RKP5637 Jan 2015 #11
And then it was rewritten by hand for nearly 2000 years rurallib Jan 2015 #32
Precisely malaise Jan 2015 #36
and there are always plenty of folks ready to feed anyone rurallib Jan 2015 #39
The Snake Oil Salesman may just be the malaise Jan 2015 #42
The movie was BS, too RockaFowler Jan 2015 #2
I only heard of "Heaven is For Real". What's the name of this one? Same as the book? 7962 Jan 2015 #20
Their surname is Mularkey, Bohunk68 Jan 2015 #24
Caught that immediately!!!! n/t ewagner Jan 2015 #27
I noticed, too. LuvNewcastle Jan 2015 #41
...from the Mularkey section of the book store, people are surprised when it's Mularkey? Blanks Jan 2015 #61
I LOLed when I saw that! Frank Cannon Jan 2015 #47
still plenty of other first-hand accounts Enrique Jan 2015 #3
Good one! nt freedom fighter jh Jan 2015 #18
Dr. Elisabeth Kubler-Ross Octafish Jan 2015 #57
Well, the kid's last name is Malarkey. What did you expect? bulloney Jan 2015 #4
their name is malarkey? barbtries Jan 2015 #5
You can't write shit like this! alcibiades_mystery Jan 2015 #30
"Anything written by man cannot be infallible" RedCappedBandit Jan 2015 #6
I think it's projection . . . freedom fighter jh Jan 2015 #19
Didn't GAWD* write it? freebrew Jan 2015 #40
so it was all malarky ? JI7 Jan 2015 #7
+1 n/t ejbr Jan 2015 #9
ROFL, that was the first thing that jumped out at me as well. Amimnoch Jan 2015 #22
amen.- Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2015 #54
People won't believe a thing a scientist says but.... Takket Jan 2015 #8
My thoughts, exactly. Frustratedlady Jan 2015 #10
You realize he only changed his story after rpannier Jan 2015 #17
Thanks Obama!!! VWolf Jan 2015 #29
Forgot to mention that rpannier Jan 2015 #64
Fuckin' Odie. jeff47 Jan 2015 #52
Visiting heaven at 4:20 today. callous taoboy Jan 2015 #12
+1 GliderGuider Jan 2015 #16
+1 JaneyVee Jan 2015 #26
And Some People On This Board Question the Usefulness & Necessity of Satire?! cer7711 Jan 2015 #13
Hear hear! dixiegrrrrl Jan 2015 #15
+1 n/t Silent3 Jan 2015 #55
you know it cer7711 Skittles Jan 2015 #65
That's okay. I died went to heaven. Was wondrous rpannier Jan 2015 #14
lol Phentex Jan 2015 #63
Malarkey underpants Jan 2015 #21
Bingo! Malarkey! trof Jan 2015 #33
That's actually a pretty good mea culpa letter IMO Orrex Jan 2015 #23
Mea culpa is a start Ineeda Jan 2015 #35
The kid will have a tough enough life as it is Orrex Jan 2015 #50
Oh Dear amuse bouche Jan 2015 #25
Same publisher as "Left Behind" which sold 60 million copies GreatGazoo Jan 2015 #28
I did wanted to believe this boy's story but... TRoN33 Jan 2015 #31
Next question -- when will he be returning his profits? Geoff R. Casavant Jan 2015 #34
As a minor, odds are good his parents were put in charge of his earnings. IdaBriggs Jan 2015 #38
Yeah, I glossed over his age to avoid making my post too long. Geoff R. Casavant Jan 2015 #43
Did any of the earnings belong to him in the first place? Mariana Jan 2015 #66
It's a common mistake people make... KinMd Jan 2015 #37
that is funny. thanks WhiteTara Jan 2015 #46
you owe me a new keyboard! Danmel Jan 2015 #48
Okay, the people who took the recounting of an experience by a 6 year old... Pacifist Patriot Jan 2015 #44
My bet is the dad wrote it and foisted off on his kid WhiteTara Jan 2015 #45
All I can say about his made-up story LibertyLover Jan 2015 #49
Oh holy shit, that's so beautiful it's almost enough to make this atheist believe in a god. enki23 Jan 2015 #51
Alex MALARKEY? ananda Jan 2015 #53
He still hasn't given up on all of the "Malarkey" since he's now saying... Silent3 Jan 2015 #56
the kid is apparently being used as a pawn between his divorced parents. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #58
coaching fight! who can get the kid to say what! see the amazing Puppet Boy with two hands in 'im! MisterP Jan 2015 #62
So heaven isn't real? Capt. Obvious Jan 2015 #59
Malarkey? Hahahaha... /nt Marr Jan 2015 #60

malaise

(269,054 posts)
1. Hey Alex
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 07:14 AM
Jan 2015

men wrote the bible as well and they stole stuff from others cultures and made up lots of stuff.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
11. Yep! And the material in the bible was hand picked to promote that propaganda of that time, and
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 07:44 AM
Jan 2015

other works were excluded.

rurallib

(62,423 posts)
32. And then it was rewritten by hand for nearly 2000 years
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 09:56 AM
Jan 2015

with every scribe probably misreading some letters or texts or possibly throwing in some of their own ideas.

And let's not even talk about translations where one language takes on a whole new meaning from another language.

malaise

(269,054 posts)
36. Precisely
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 10:03 AM
Jan 2015

These days their gawds talk to them - back then apparently they wrote for them as well.

rurallib

(62,423 posts)
39. and there are always plenty of folks ready to feed anyone
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 10:08 AM
Jan 2015

who claims a direct line to gawd - that is the right gawd.

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
2. The movie was BS, too
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 07:14 AM
Jan 2015

I can't believe people fell for this

And that horrible movie made a ton of money from gullible people (I watched it on Starz)

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
20. I only heard of "Heaven is For Real". What's the name of this one? Same as the book?
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 08:19 AM
Jan 2015

I know the other one is a completely different story.

LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
41. I noticed, too.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 10:12 AM
Jan 2015

There's no way I'd buy a fanciful, supposedly non-fiction book from someone named "Mularkey." That's just asking to be screwed. Out of money, I mean.

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
47. I LOLed when I saw that!
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 10:50 AM
Jan 2015

My understanding is that the family changed their last name when they came in through Ellis Island-- from Bullshyte.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
3. still plenty of other first-hand accounts
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 07:21 AM
Jan 2015

there is a guy named Joe Bullshit who has a very credible story of going to heaven.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
57. Dr. Elisabeth Kubler-Ross
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 12:25 PM
Jan 2015

"And after your death, when most of you for the first time realize what life here is all about, you will begin to see that your life here is almost nothing but the sum total of every choice you have made during every moment of your life. Your thoughts, which you are responsible for, are as real as your deeds. You will begin to realize that every word and every deed affects your life and has also touched thousands of lives."

SOURCE: http://www.near-death.com/experiences/experts02.html

Going from personal experience, I think the good doctor summed things up pretty well.

RedCappedBandit

(5,514 posts)
6. "Anything written by man cannot be infallible"
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 07:23 AM
Jan 2015

Poor kid is brainwashed. Who does he think wrote the bible?

freedom fighter jh

(1,782 posts)
19. I think it's projection . . .
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 08:17 AM
Jan 2015

because of his frame of mind . . . repenting from his own lies. Maybe he thinks everyone lies. Or something.

freebrew

(1,917 posts)
40. Didn't GAWD* write it?
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 10:09 AM
Jan 2015

Or rather dictated it to Moses? I recall Moses seemed to like to do things HIS way, not GAWD's*.
And I guess to others in different languages with different meanings and results?

As said above, too many humans involved to keep it non-political.
Who the hell was King James anyway, I thought he was Anglican.

And why didn't it have any passages about Odin?

I mean: WTF?


*i spelled it the way i hear it from the tv preachers...

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
22. ROFL, that was the first thing that jumped out at me as well.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 08:21 AM
Jan 2015

I did a double take at the link just to make sure this wasn't an Onion story.. the irony of that last name with this story.. very humorous.

Takket

(21,577 posts)
8. People won't believe a thing a scientist says but....
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 07:29 AM
Jan 2015

I'm sure a six year old's account of heaven from his coma it TOTALLY legit! A fool and his money are soon parted.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
10. My thoughts, exactly.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 07:42 AM
Jan 2015

I have friends who were totally taken by this young boy's story and glommed onto it as a sign from the Bible.

I should point this out to them, but I'm sure they've seen it. They won't mention the sham, though.

rpannier

(24,330 posts)
17. You realize he only changed his story after
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 08:15 AM
Jan 2015

he had been intimidated by radical Atheists, the New Black Panther Party and the characters from Garfield and Friends

rpannier

(24,330 posts)
64. Forgot to mention that
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 10:50 PM
Jan 2015

Because we all know that Obama controls all three groups
I think he is actually Roy the Rooster or maybe Wade the Duck
I'll have to re-watch the shows

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
52. Fuckin' Odie.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 12:10 PM
Jan 2015

Always going around brainwashing people. Sure, he puts on a big, dumb act. But you know he's always scheming how to hurt the devout.

Oh sure, you'd think it's Nermal. But Odie wants you to believe that.

cer7711

(502 posts)
13. And Some People On This Board Question the Usefulness & Necessity of Satire?!
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 07:51 AM
Jan 2015

Good grief-a-gravy! Satire is precisely the rhetorical instrument to be wielded in cases like this; it is the throwing of a cold bucket of water in the face of those who have had their intelligence bewitched by the beauty of language. Especially when such language is but pandering and pandemoniac non sequitur--an eruption of absurdity, of ridiculous dogma and cant catering to one's basest, most child-like and narcissistic instincts.

The answer to Tertullian--"Credo quia absurdum" ("I believe because it is absurd,&quot

was provided by Voltaire: "Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities."

rpannier

(24,330 posts)
14. That's okay. I died went to heaven. Was wondrous
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 08:09 AM
Jan 2015

So warm and toasty.
God greeted me personally.
He wasn't anything like I envisioned... red skin, goatee, long pointy fingernails, a tail

underpants

(182,829 posts)
21. Malarkey
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 08:20 AM
Jan 2015

Come on it was right there on the cover.

Hey they got a movie deal out of it. Cha-CHING!

Glenn Beck and others pimped they hell out of this book. That was the second clue that this was malarkey.

Orrex

(63,215 posts)
23. That's actually a pretty good mea culpa letter IMO
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 08:25 AM
Jan 2015

It would be impressive enough even if he'd only admitted his deception, but he actually calls out retailers for bearing false witness if they continue to profit from the book.

Sure, he's failing to make the connection between his made-up story and the made-up stories of bronze age tribes, but I'll give him credit for fessing up at all. Too many charlatans simply double down when challenged about their snake oil. Nice to see one givijg a different response for once.

Ineeda

(3,626 posts)
35. Mea culpa is a start
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 10:02 AM
Jan 2015

but I notice no mention of returning the money he and his family made from this hoax, just retailers. Until he makes that happen, I give no accolades for his admission.

Orrex

(63,215 posts)
50. The kid will have a tough enough life as it is
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:05 AM
Jan 2015

I'm not going to stomp on him while a team of physical therapists are still moving his feet on the rehab treadmill for h
im.

The fools who paid money for his fairy tale have no one to blame but themselves. He could have kept quiet about it like nearly all of the other religious hucksters have done over the millennia and continue to do, but he made a different choice.


I wish him luck.

amuse bouche

(3,657 posts)
25. Oh Dear
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 08:57 AM
Jan 2015

It's all bullcrap...imagine that






"You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion." - L. Ron Hubbard

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
28. Same publisher as "Left Behind" which sold 60 million copies
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 09:25 AM
Jan 2015

From an Amazon review (2/2013):

After starting to read this book, I, like everyone else became intrigued with the people of which I was reading about. I came accross Beth Malarkey's personal blog in which she writes about her role as a mom. She also very openly, boldy and clearly states that she has NOTHING to do with this book nor does she support it neither does her son, Alex. Has no one else come across this?


http://www.amazon.com/Boy-Who-Came-Back-Heaven-ebook/dp/B003WJRW1G/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1421414456&sr=8-2&keywords=boy+back+from+heaven

So this has been stewing for a year or more.
 

TRoN33

(769 posts)
31. I did wanted to believe this boy's story but...
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 09:49 AM
Jan 2015

During the very beginning of his fame, his parents and families are also hogging up the attention to promote the glory of their family and bible. I knew something was off about that family right away. I didn't read the book and didn't watch that movie either. I'm floored by money-making machine this book has made for boy and his family.

Kudos to boy for bravely stood up and telling the truth. I can respect him more than for family of his which I care not to even mention.

Geoff R. Casavant

(2,381 posts)
34. Next question -- when will he be returning his profits?
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 10:01 AM
Jan 2015

Pretty certain his prior lies led to a nice paycheck for his parents, and probably paid a bunch of his medical bills, with a nice chunk of change left over. Will he be offering to return any fraction of that?

So easy to repent, isn't it, when you don't have to actually suffer the consequences?

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
38. As a minor, odds are good his parents were put in charge of his earnings.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 10:07 AM
Jan 2015

There is a chance it is sitting in a fund waiting for him to go to college or something, but odds are probably better the family used the funds to cover bills and expenses incurred during his multi-month hospital stay, subsequent recovery and current health care.

Geoff R. Casavant

(2,381 posts)
43. Yeah, I glossed over his age to avoid making my post too long.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 10:20 AM
Jan 2015

So I will expect that when he turns 18, he will open his account and provide a pro-rata refund to anyone who can show proof of purchase.

I'll just be over here holding my breath.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
66. Did any of the earnings belong to him in the first place?
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 04:36 AM
Jan 2015

The father is the author of the book, not the kid, isn't that correct?

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
44. Okay, the people who took the recounting of an experience by a 6 year old...
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 10:37 AM
Jan 2015

and turned it into a book that claims to present new insights into heaven, angels, and hearing the voice of God are a stellar example of people deserving of mockery. Clearly haven't read any Kohlberg, Fowler, or Piaget. (Not that some of their stuff isn't worthy of a little mockery too) But a six year old held up as a reliable "witness?" That is comic gold right there.

WhiteTara

(29,718 posts)
45. My bet is the dad wrote it and foisted off on his kid
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 10:43 AM
Jan 2015

It was so juvenile that the little boy could have written it.

LibertyLover

(4,788 posts)
49. All I can say about his made-up story
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:00 AM
Jan 2015

is that Alex and his father have absolutely the most appropriate last name I've seen in a very long time.

enki23

(7,789 posts)
51. Oh holy shit, that's so beautiful it's almost enough to make this atheist believe in a god.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:40 AM
Jan 2015

Praise Loki!

Silent3

(15,230 posts)
56. He still hasn't given up on all of the "Malarkey" since he's now saying...
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 12:25 PM
Jan 2015

"They should read the Bible, which is enough. The Bible is the only source of truth."

Maybe in time the other shoe will drop.

 

ND-Dem

(4,571 posts)
58. the kid is apparently being used as a pawn between his divorced parents.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 12:28 PM
Jan 2015

Here are a few key background details of the story: Alex Malarkey was paralyzed at the age of 6 when he was in a car wreck. He then spent two months in a coma. He's now a teenager. The book lists him as a co-author along with his father, Kevin Malarkey.

Calling the book a "spiritual memoir," The Washington Post notes that it "became part of a popular genre of 'heavenly tourism,' which has been controversial among orthodox Christians."

Alex's parents are now divorced; he and his siblings live with his mother, Beth Malarkey, who has previously spoken out against the book (and last year, a movie) featuring her son. She has also said that profits from the book haven't been going to Alex.

Last spring, Beth Malarkey wrote a blog post stating, "Alex's name and identity are being used against his wishes (I have spoken before and posted about it that Alex has tried to publicly speak out against the book), on something that he is opposed to and knows to be in error according to the Bible."

She added, "I am fully aware of what it feels like to be pulled in. There are many who are scamming and using the Word of God to do it. They are good, especially if you are not digging into your Bible and truly studying it. They study their audience and even read 'success' books to try to build better and bigger ... 'ministries/businesses.' "

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
62. coaching fight! who can get the kid to say what! see the amazing Puppet Boy with two hands in 'im!
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 03:21 PM
Jan 2015
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