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MindMover

(5,016 posts)
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 06:06 PM Jan 2015

Is America Crazy ?



Americans who live abroad -- more than six million of us worldwide (not counting those who work for the U.S. government) -- often face hard questions about our country from people we live among. Europeans, Asians, and Africans ask us to explain everything that baffles them about the increasingly odd and troubling conduct of the United States. Polite people, normally reluctant to risk offending a guest, complain that America’s trigger-happiness, cutthroat free-marketeering, and “exceptionality” have gone on for too long to be considered just an adolescent phase. Which means that we Americans abroad are regularly asked to account for the behavior of our rebranded “homeland,” now conspicuously in decline and increasingly out of step with the rest of the world.

In my long nomadic life, I’ve had the good fortune to live, work, or travel in all but a handful of countries on this planet. I’ve been to both poles and a great many places in between, and nosy as I am, I’ve talked with people all along the way. I still remember a time when to be an American was to be envied. The country where I grew up after World War II seemed to be respected and admired around the world for way too many reasons to go into here.

That’s changed, of course. Even after the invasion of Iraq in 2003, I still met people -- in the Middle East, no less -- willing to withhold judgment on the U.S. Many thought that the Supreme Court’s installation of George W. Bush as president was a blunder American voters would correct in the election of 2004. His return to office truly spelled the end of America as the world had known it. Bush had started a war, opposed by the entire world, because he wanted to and he could. A majority of Americans supported him. And that was when all the uncomfortable questions really began.

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/01/11/country-crazy-inquiring-minds-elsewhere-want-know
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Is America Crazy ? (Original Post) MindMover Jan 2015 OP
You don't find those things "exceptional"? jberryhill Jan 2015 #1
Even though 2004 was also stolen, it did appear to the world that we did not deserve respect randys1 Jan 2015 #2
Yes. hifiguy Jan 2015 #3
^^THIS^^ 2naSalit Jan 2015 #4
Yes A HERETIC I AM Jan 2015 #5
What the fuck do you know? n/t A HERETIC I AM Jan 2015 #6
Shut up, dirtbag. A HERETIC I AM Jan 2015 #7
Who you callin' 'dirtbag' you giant horses ass? A HERETIC I AM Jan 2015 #8
You wouldn't know crazy town if your address was #1 Main street, Crazytown. A HERETIC I AM Jan 2015 #9
I resemble that remark. A HERETIC I AM Jan 2015 #10
Yes you do, nitwit. A HERETIC I AM Jan 2015 #11
Sorry folks........lost control there for a sec A HERETIC I AM Jan 2015 #12
This is the sort of uncivil personal attack that makes DU suck. Gormy Cuss Jan 2015 #26
Yeah? And you're obviously a large.... A HERETIC I AM Jan 2015 #29
Welcome to my Ignobel list. Gormy Cuss Jan 2015 #30
I've had worse. A HERETIC I AM Jan 2015 #31
Name calling again. Enjoy your stay. Gormy Cuss Jan 2015 #32
Gormy he has thousands of posts.....He's not a troll...lol onecent Jan 2015 #47
I am. Gormy Cuss Jan 2015 #49
Oh so do you...lol onecent Jan 2015 #48
Just for the record ... at 11:11AM In_The_Wind Jan 2015 #34
Takes one to know one. QED Jan 2015 #13
Dirtbag that is QED Jan 2015 #14
Don't hijack this thread further just to prove America is fucking nuts, OK? A HERETIC I AM Jan 2015 #15
Gunz! QED Jan 2015 #16
Oh, for fucks sake. Now I'm gonna have to go get my kibbles and Legos. A HERETIC I AM Jan 2015 #18
Dude, remember QED Jan 2015 #35
Jeebus! hifiguy Jan 2015 #19
... on a trailerhitch! Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #36
America does not have the worst murder rate. former9thward Jan 2015 #17
I beg your pardon ...my stats are better than yours MindMover Jan 2015 #20
No, you don't former9thward Jan 2015 #22
The qualifications that you seek are on the flag pole... "Among OECD nations" MindMover Jan 2015 #23
Oh, fine print and written vertically. former9thward Jan 2015 #24
The truth is we are a murderous group amongst the tribes of the world ... MindMover Jan 2015 #25
You mean amongst the civilized tribes ...not just any ol tribe. pbmus Jan 2015 #28
USA doesn't kill citizens outright, thats to fast!! Our society likes people to suffer for yearsssss Sunlei Jan 2015 #37
You've forgotten two all-important statistics: 1% of the population controls KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #21
Yes! Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition! valerief Jan 2015 #27
Pretty flag..too bad it's complete bullshit B2G Jan 2015 #33
What are you calling BS because your better than life index is made up pbmus Jan 2015 #39
I'm calling BS on the flag B2G Jan 2015 #40
PROPAGANDA distributed by a worldwide douche-bag of a company ... pbmus Jan 2015 #41
Um...my source WAS the OECD site. nt B2G Jan 2015 #42
The source you gave is supported by Sodexo pbmus Jan 2015 #43
Are you disputing that the link I provided is OECD data? B2G Jan 2015 #44
..... pbmus Jan 2015 #45
Yeah Stephen Retired Jan 2015 #38
Which one? GeorgeGist Jan 2015 #46

randys1

(16,286 posts)
2. Even though 2004 was also stolen, it did appear to the world that we did not deserve respect
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 06:11 PM
Jan 2015

And today you have W and Cheney on steroids and without the modest intellect they had, aka teaparty.


 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
3. Yes.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 06:43 PM
Jan 2015

The onset of national dementia/schizophrenia began on January 20, 1981. We have been endlessly tumbling down a rabbit hole of insanity since that day.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
26. This is the sort of uncivil personal attack that makes DU suck.
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 12:24 AM
Jan 2015

I'd alert but it's probably already been allowed to stand by a jury.







A HERETIC I AM

(24,370 posts)
29. Yeah? And you're obviously a large....
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 01:38 AM
Jan 2015

Poopyhead.

Whatever I have to say to make sure we all know this country is nuts.

Or at least me, anyway

In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)
34. Just for the record ... at 11:11AM
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 12:23 PM
Jan 2015

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former9thward

(32,019 posts)
22. No, you don't
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:16 PM
Jan 2015

In your OP you said America had the worst murder rate. No qualifications. It does not. Your chart says in the "developed world". So what they did is leave off every country in the world with a higher murder rate and call it "undeveloped" so it won't harm their theory. I am sure they did that to other categories also.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
37. USA doesn't kill citizens outright, thats to fast!! Our society likes people to suffer for yearsssss
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 01:41 PM
Jan 2015

It's much more profitable to keep all the 'crazies' alive for decades.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
21. You've forgotten two all-important statistics: 1% of the population controls
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:11 PM
Jan 2015

40% of America's wealth (and 10% of the population controls 80% of the wealth). The 6 heirs to the WalMart family fortune have as much wealth between them as the bottom 35-40 million Americans combined.

Yay, capitalism!

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
39. What are you calling BS because your better than life index is made up
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 03:34 PM
Jan 2015

by the group Sodexo which has brought worldwide attention to itself for low wages, unethical treatment of employees, and torture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodexo

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
40. I'm calling BS on the flag
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 04:03 PM
Jan 2015

If you go to their website, you'll see the US is represented as one of the best countries in terms of their life satisfaction indicators.

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
41. PROPAGANDA distributed by a worldwide douche-bag of a company ...
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 04:16 PM
Jan 2015

Do you live in the USA?

I am calling BS on your source.

The best source to verify stats is here ... http://stats.oecd.org/

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
43. The source you gave is supported by Sodexo
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 04:34 PM
Jan 2015

which means the info was gathered and manufactured by Sodexo.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
44. Are you disputing that the link I provided is OECD data?
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 04:39 PM
Jan 2015

Because the data links are identical to the link you posted.

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
45. .....
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 05:03 PM
Jan 2015

your data link ... http://www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org/

my data link ... http://stats.oecd.org/

these two links are not identical ... and if you scroll down to the bottom of your link you will see the supported by Sodexo

I do not believe the OECD is supported by Sodexo , well, maybe in Sodexo's mind we are.

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