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redgreenandblue

(2,088 posts) Sat Jan 17, 2015, 09:34 AM Jan 2015

On any meaningful scale, Chris Kyle was a worse human being than the Kouachi brothers.

The fact that Chris Kyle gets cherished as an American hero (and even has fans amongst liberals as far as I understand) tells me all I need to know about whether Islamic countries are any worse than Western nations.

So, many Muslims think apostasy should be illegal. On the other hand, many Americans think Chris Kyle was a great guy, torture is ok, bombed weddings are an acceptable byproduct of the drone program and the Iraq war was "the lord's work".

Replace "in service of Allah" by "in service of the country" and you can get Americans to commit atrocities as bad as any Islamist.

In the end, it all depends on whose ox is being gored.

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On any meaningful scale, Chris Kyle was a worse human being than the Kouachi brothers. (Original Post) redgreenandblue Jan 2015 OP

I don't think he is bad yeoman6987 Jan 2015 #1

what would it take to make you think someone was bad? Schema Thing Jan 2015 #2

I don't know but I am on my way too see American Sniper....hope it is not sold out yeoman6987 Jan 2015 #5

Was a racist, participated in a war of aggression and allegedly killed over 160 people. redgreenandblue Jan 2015 #7

I don't think he's a bad guy, not just for being a military sniper. TwilightGardener Jan 2015 #3

ask jesse ventura.... dembotoz Jan 2015 #4

... redgreenandblue Jan 2015 #6

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)

1. I don't think he is bad

Reply to redgreenandblue (Original post)

Sat Jan 17, 2015, 10:34 AM

Jan 2015

I doubt even 10 percent would agree with Chris Kyle is a bad guy.

Schema Thing

(10,283 posts)

2. what would it take to make you think someone was bad?

Reply to yeoman6987 (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 17, 2015, 11:59 AM

Jan 2015

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)

5. I don't know but I am on my way too see American Sniper....hope it is not sold out

Reply to Schema Thing (Reply #2)

Sat Jan 17, 2015, 01:15 PM

Jan 2015

I want to make my own decision on whether he is bad or not....right now I am leaning towards he did his job and probably saved lives. I could change.......I am a little shocked that American Sniper made 30 million on Friday night alone....that is amazing.

redgreenandblue

(2,088 posts)

7. Was a racist, participated in a war of aggression and allegedly killed over 160 people.

Reply to yeoman6987 (Reply #5)

Sun Jan 18, 2015, 02:58 PM

Jan 2015

Whether you consider him bad or not all boils down to whether you sympathize with the Iraqi people or not.

Your argument that "he did his job" is exactly the point I was trying to make: In the US you earn absolution for any crime as long is it is done "in service of the country". The concept differs from "in service of Allah" in name only. Both invoke a "divine" entity in order to strip people of personal responsibilities.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)

3. I don't think he's a bad guy, not just for being a military sniper.

Reply to redgreenandblue (Original post)

Sat Jan 17, 2015, 01:05 PM

Jan 2015

My son's childhood friend is in the Marines and is working toward being a sniper, it was a dream of his since grade school. He's a nice young man, serving his country. Not a psycho or a bad human being by any stretch.

dembotoz

(16,864 posts)

4. ask jesse ventura....

Reply to redgreenandblue (Original post)

Sat Jan 17, 2015, 01:14 PM

Jan 2015

kyle is a piece of work

my gf wanted to take me to the movie and i declined.

better things to do

like wash dishes......

redgreenandblue

(2,088 posts)

6. ...

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Sat Jan 17, 2015, 07:15 PM

Jan 2015

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