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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 04:56 PM Apr 2012

“Communist,” “Progressive,” Whatever

“Communist,” “Progressive,” Whatever

By Ed Kilgore

I would have thought that the one thing we could expect from Allen West is that if he didn’t have the decency to apologize for his bizarre characterization of “78 to 81” Democratic Members of Congress (later modified to refer to the Progressive Caucus) as members of the Communist Party, he’d at least shut up about it.

But no. West has published a column at The Hill that seeks to defend this idiotic slander as a brave effort to spur a “debate” over fundamental principles. Those offended by being red-baited are, he suggests, focusing on “semantics” and “nuance,” qualities that he found deadly when on the “battlefield.”

Well, nobody’s going to accuse West of “nuance,” though he gets very slippery in his column:

Specific “party” affiliation is not the point of the discussion — it is rather affiliation with a set of ideals. Conservatives adhere to the ideals of individual responsibility and freedom, limited government, a free market and a strong defense. Those on the liberal left adhere to a collective ideal, directed and controlled by a centralized government to guarantee and enforce social and economic justice.

You can call this what you wish. The esteemed scholar and author Mark Levin [!] calls it “statism.” In our lifetime, the unpalatable and pejorative brands “socialist” and “communist” have been replaced with the more user-friendly “progressive” term.

But this is not a discussion about labels.

Of course not, congressman, which is why you chose the most inflammatory label imaginable, right? But that’s a quibble, since “progressive” is just the latest name for the people who used to go by “socialist” or “communist,” as the eminent historian Glenn Beck has so often explained. After all, it should be obvious to anyone that supporting an approach to health care crafted by the Heritage Foundation and test-driven by the 2012 Republican presidential nominee is indistinguishable from supporting a dictatorship of the proletariat, state ownership of the means of production, and the liquidation of the kulaks. The total disappearance of liberty and private property in those Western countries (all of them!) with far greater government involvement in the economy than anything anyone in the Progressive Caucus has ever demanded is so obvious as to require no documentation, of course.

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http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2012_04/communist_progressive_whatever036922.php

Check out the comments at The Hill, and you'll see why this lunatic believes his own drivel.

http://thehill.com/opinion/op-ed/223473-critical-time-for-ideological-debate

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“Communist,” “Progressive,” Whatever (Original Post) ProSense Apr 2012 OP
How do these people keep jobs!?!?! Rex Apr 2012 #1
Because wingnuts love voting for them emulatorloo Apr 2012 #2
We need to find a way to reduce their kool-aid Rex Apr 2012 #3
"eminent historian Glenn Beck" quinnox Apr 2012 #4
That's funny, I said the Repubs CJCRANE Apr 2012 #5
Allen West is mentally ill, hifiguy Apr 2012 #6
West et al claim a RIGHT to say what the labels mean, a RIGHT to say who YOU are, that they do not patrice Apr 2012 #7
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
3. We need to find a way to reduce their kool-aid
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 05:10 PM
Apr 2012

consumption. Voting for wackos has never been a good idea.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
5. That's funny, I said the Repubs
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 05:19 PM
Apr 2012

were like "State Communists" on DU on Monday (because of the way they repeat the same talking points handed down from the top and do everything in lockstep).

It was in the thread about Jon Huntsman accusing the GOP of being like (Communist) China.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=599984

It was probably a coincidence but I've seen a lot of coincidences like that where the Repubs seem to take insults leveled against them and project them back at us.

ETA: Obviously not the communist part, but it might have reminded them of the idea of "statism".

patrice

(47,992 posts)
7. West et al claim a RIGHT to say what the labels mean, a RIGHT to say who YOU are, that they do not
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 05:50 PM
Apr 2012

yield to others. It is therefore NOT a Right but is, rather, a PRIVILEGE.

All privilege is maintained SOLELY by power. They are, therefore, FASCISTS.

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