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What is it with the NFL and the religious overtones that hang over it? After every win you see players "praying" and "thanking the Lord" for their monumental win. That nonsense takes a lot of the joy out of the NFL experience for me. In fact I find it deeply offensive - and I'm not easily offended. Quite the contrary - but that's the reaction I have to the ridiculous displays we are subjected to following NFL games. Why am I so deeply offended?
So all the millions of innocent men, women and children who were tortured and killed during the holocaust - their prayers were clearly ignored. All the millions of innocent men, women and children who have died in wars throughout history - all their prayers were clearly ignored. All the prayers uttered by slaves throughout history - all their prayers were - and continue to be ignored. All the prayers uttered by the family and friends of terminally ill children - their prayers are ignored.
But yet God Almighty listens to Russell Wilson because Russell wants to go play football in the Superbowl. Now that's one amazing deity.
I don't mean to pick on Russell Wilson - you see this nonsense after every NFL game. I find it curious though - because it's not something audiences are subjected to in the NBA, MLB. or NASL. At least to the degree we see in the NFL.
If there was a button for "Stop the Stupid" I'd be banging on it after every Seahawk game. As it is, I'll settle for the channel change button on the remote. As the game clock ticks to zero, I'll just turn it off.
KG
(28,752 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)WestSeattle2
(1,730 posts)Chisox08
(1,898 posts)but he has a deal with the devil
rurallib
(62,432 posts)To me open displays of religion are for no purpose other than to draw attention to yourself.
If one was truly religious would he or she really believe that their gawd had nothing to do but watch over their daily lives?
Wouldn't a real gawd care less about a game than those starving or maybe care more about stopping a bullet headed for the head of someone's father?
Nope - those displays are just to draw attention to themselves and the telecasts usually accomodate them by holding the camera on them for a few seconds.
WestSeattle2
(1,730 posts)cameras aren't allowed in there.
H. Cromwell
(151 posts)when the Giants players did the Hands UP don't shoot or wore "I can't breathe" shirts or what ever....BUT IF they had the right to express their beliefs and force their views upon the audience then so do religious players. Either BAN IT ALL or allow it all. You cannot pick and choose. You can always change the channel.
WestSeattle2
(1,730 posts)rurallib
(62,432 posts)my pro football watching is about 2 hours or so a year.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)exboyfil
(17,865 posts)Warning it does use vulgar language.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)You knew Russ was super religious when he was drafted. He puts bible quotes on his twitter every day. This is the wrong sport if you don't like displays of religious devotion.
It's amazing to me that after that classic, once-in-a-lifetime game yesterday, as a Seahawks fan you choose this to talk about.
WestSeattle2
(1,730 posts)other major American sport. What is it about football?
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)After scoring in the NBA, the game continues. There is no time to do religious celebrations. Also the postgames are shorter because the season is longer, each game means a lot less. MLB is the same way.
TV doesn't control what the players say. The more exposure you get to the players, the more mentions of God you will hear, regardless of whether it's basketball or baseball.
WestSeattle2
(1,730 posts)YarnAddict
(1,850 posts)does this bother you so much? So, Russell Wilson credited some deity you don't believe in. Big deal. Should everyone consult with you to find out what is acceptable to you??
Nothing gets the panties in a wad on DU quite like religion. A few months ago some clown was in a snit because one of the Ebola survivors (a Christian missionary, BTW) thanked God for his recovery. My reaction was that the guy had survived a horrible diseases, despite being at death's door, and he was free to say whatever the hell he wanted.
Same with Russell Wilson. It was an amazing comeback win. (And I say that while wearing my 1996 Green Bay Packers NFC Championship sweatshirt.) Wilson can say whatever he wants--its HIS moment in the spotlight, not yours.
WestSeattle2
(1,730 posts)thank The Almighty for being with them that day. What is going through the minds of those less fortunate? To those whose misery God has ignored? And why is God helping some yahoo win a sporting event, while letting innocent kids die every day in pediatric oncology wards.
Surely these athletes can appreciate how millions find their remarks offensive - and arrogant.
You're absolutely correct - it is their moment in the spotlight and they are free to say any darn thing they want to.
WestSeattle2
(1,730 posts)joeglow3
(6,228 posts)WestSeattle2
(1,730 posts)LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)That was a classic game. It will be shown 50 years from now on NFL Classics. And the 30 seconds Russ spent mentioning God really ruined it for you?
If we win the Super Bowl, you can turn it off at 0:00 and miss the trophy presentation, because I guarantee Wilson will be talking about God again.
After how they came back yesterday, they can hold a full mass in the middle of the field for all I care.
WestSeattle2
(1,730 posts)thrown into what should be a fun event.
ProdigalJunkMail
(12,017 posts)then you should stop saying that you're not easily offended.
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Throd
(7,208 posts)ChazII
(6,205 posts)for your observation.
caraher
(6,279 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,112 posts)I'm forgetting which stand up said that, but it was something to the effect of words you'll never hear.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)January 18, 2015
Everyone is calling this loving long-haired tabby cat a hero. And when you hear what Masha did, youll know that God sent this furry friend to be a guardian angel and save a babys life!
After finding an abandoned baby boy on the street, Masha climbed into the box he had been dumped in to keep him warm. Then, the caring momma cat got help by meowing non-stop to draw attention to the poor 3-month-old baby boy. Thats when Irina Lavrova, a retired woman who lived nearby, had walked out to empty her trash when she heard Masha crying out loudly near the apartment complexs trashcans.
-snip-
What a blessed miracle that God sent this caring creature to watch over the poor abandoned baby in his time of need! Please pray that both this precious baby boy and the furry guardian angel who cared for him will find loving homes. God clearly has big plans for this special little boy to have kept him safe from harm in such a special way!
read more: http://www.godvine.com/read/god-saves-unlikely-hero-to-save-abandoned-baby-fb-gv-796.html
I'm happy for the baby. I love animals. But "God sent this caring creature to watch over the poor abandoned baby" AND ensured that the Seahawks would win a football game ...
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)A plane crashes, a tornado roars through town -- 200 people die, but, miraculously, there's a survivor! God saved him/her! Thank you God, you are truly a loving deity! Of course, why you either caused or failed to prevent said tragedy in the first place -- shhh! Don't ask that! And too bad about those other schmucks who died -- guess they weren't worthy of The Omnipotent One's attention.
3catwoman3
(24,023 posts)-cisely!!!
WestSeattle2
(1,730 posts)A HERETIC I AM
(24,372 posts)in response to the person thanking god in the middle of death and destruction;
"Looks like god was trying to get you too and missed"
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Isn't she lucky he loves her so much he let her witness the death of her parents and left her alone in the world?
I'll bet she doesn't think so.
sakabatou
(42,165 posts)WestSeattle2
(1,730 posts)napkinz
(17,199 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)as opposed to asking Me to help the sick, the poor, and the hungry, I would be less than receptive. If anything, I would use My divine powers to give the opposing team a boost.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Look at the suffering and destruction on this planet. Either it's a cruel, sociopathic god, or it doesn't exist.
WestSeattle2
(1,730 posts)But yes, your point is well made - and taken. Within blocks of CenturyLink field are no fewer than 1,000 homeless men, women and children. But yesterday, all of God's energies were apparently focused on Russell Wilson and the Seahawks.
That's what they would have you believe if you listened to the post game comments.
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)I think they are praying for thanks that God gave them these incredible abilities. I don't think they pray to win but to just do the best that they can. I am sure the whole intervention thing never comes into their minds. Many also pray that no one is injured in the game. Wilson gives a lot back to his community. He is a good guy whether people feel comfortable with his public displays of faith or not.
In many cases members of both teams pray together after a game. I have also seen groups of players from opposing teams pray together when a player is seriously hurt.
ChazII
(6,205 posts)for the exact reasons you mentioned. I do not pray for a win, I pray that the players do not suffer a career ending injury.
Throd
(7,208 posts)As a lifelong atheist and NFL fan, I just can't manage to give a shit whether a guy scored a touchdown for Jesus or not.
WestSeattle2
(1,730 posts)Throd
(7,208 posts)WestSeattle2
(1,730 posts)SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)seveneyes
(4,631 posts)FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)Instead of crediting their effort, abilities, and decision making, they thank an imaginary man in the sky.
WestSeattle2
(1,730 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I can certainly understand your frustration with people not celebrating the way you believe they should during a game... with a ball. I hope it didn't cause any undue strains or stresses on the outcome of the game or the style the game was played. I can only imagine the feelings of offense watching others celebrate a game in unapproved ways must cause.
It sounds horrific.
WestSeattle2
(1,730 posts)SwankyXomb
(2,030 posts)"What does God need with a football?"
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)Some players chose to meet and pray after the game. Not a huge issue to me, it seems like a ritual and coping mechanism for some players.
yuiyoshida
(41,833 posts)and saw a player, (Whose name I will not mention) and asked him for an autograph, on he bill of my cap. I was thrilled until I saw what he had written. "Thank the Lord, praise god on high! From Jesus and (players name) God bless you!"
I tossed the cap into the can. I don't like my football mixed with Religion. It is not the church of the NFL...but these days it seems like it.
wheniwasincongress
(1,307 posts)people to win football games and Oscars
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)nilesobek
(1,423 posts)I remember when crazy old Art Bell used to do collective consciousness experiments on coast to coast live. But he stopped doing that because he said, "I'm afraid of the immense power."
KMOD
(7,906 posts)Just ask Steve Johnson.
Stevie Johnson blew it for the Bills on Sunday. So how'd he handle it afterward? By blaming God on Twitter, of course.
The Bills wideout dropped what would have been a game-winning catch in overtime against the Steelers on Sunday. The Steelers went on to win the game, and after the game, Johnson was left searching for answers. So he turned to his Twitter feed.
"I PRAISE YOU 24/7!!!!!! AND THIS HOW YOU DO ME!!!!!" he tweeted late Sunday afternoon. "YOU EXPECT ME TO LEARN FROM THIS??? HOW???!!! ILL NEVER FORGET THIS!! EVER!!! THX THO "
http://nesn.com/2010/11/bills-receiver-steve-johnson-blames-god-on-twitter-after-blowing-game-with-dropped-catch/
Just sayin'
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)North Dallas 40.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)it? There is no right to NOT be offended that I know about. Belief is belief...and it is very personal. If one does not believe in God or any other higher power that is their right and none of it offends me. Offense itself is personal. I can't nor should I stop anyone from being offended if that is how they feel.
DemocraticWing
(1,290 posts)I don't give a shit if somebody prays after a game or does the sign of the cross or whatever. It's none of my business. There is no organized system of oppression if a bunch of people who play sports are personally religious; indeed a system of oppression would be the NFL telling its employees that punishment would be given to those who pray at work because there's an atheist watching.
To think that somebody actually made the argument that NFL players shouldn't be allowed to pray because God didn't stop the Holocaust...wow.
ileus
(15,396 posts)There not offended anymore.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Change the channel if you don't like it.
aka-chmeee
(1,132 posts)a continuation of all the other LOOK AT ME! crap the game has become full of. Silly grandstanding displays after plays, trash talking and taunting. Shouldn't be any of it.
ecstatic
(32,720 posts)No need to witness something you don't understand.
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)Got it.
dilby
(2,273 posts)And you get offended, sounds petty to me. Like you are mad at God because he gave those men the ability to play football and you the ability to sit on a couch and watch it.
genxlib
(5,528 posts)Jimmy Fallon mocks Tim Tebow while doing a spot on Bowie impression
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kwassa
(23,340 posts)Dropkick me, Jesus, through the goal posts of life
End over end, neither left nor to right
Straight through the heart of them, righteous up rights
Dropkick me, Jesus, through the goal posts of life
Make me, oh, make me, Lord, more than I am
Make me a piece in Your master game plan
Free from the earthly temptation below
I've got the will, Lord, if You got the toe
Dropkick me, Jesus, through the goal posts of life
End over end, neither left nor to right
Straight through the heart of them, righteous up rights
Dropkick me, Jesus, through the goal posts of life
Bring on the brothers who've gone on before
And all of the sisters who've knocked on your door
All the departed, dear, loved ones of mine
Stick 'em up front in the offensive line
Dropkick me, Jesus, through the goal posts of life
End over end, neither left nor to right
Straight through the heart of them, righteous up rights
Dropkick me, Jesus, through the goal posts of life
Dropkick me, Jesus, through the goal posts of life
End over end, neither left nor to right
Straight through the heart of them, righteous up rights
Dropkick me, Jesus, through the goal posts of life
Yeah, dropkick me, Jesus, through the goal posts of life
End over end, neither left nor to right
Mariana
(14,859 posts)Christ had a very low opinion of people who make a spectacle of their religion to show everyone how pious they are, and he said so clearly and unambiguously. He instructed his followers to pray in private.
Inkfreak
(1,695 posts)America...fuck yea.