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wyldwolf

(43,870 posts)
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 02:25 PM Jan 2015

Howard Dean Throws Weight Behind Clinton in Blow to Warren Supporters - will headline fundraiser

Howard Dean will headline a fund-raiser for the Ready for Hillary “super PAC” in Manhattan next month, sending a message to donors that the liberal former governor of Vermont is fully behind a run for the presidency by Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Mr. Dean, who was the liberals’ champion during the 2004 presidential campaign, endorsed Ready for Hillary’s efforts on behalf of Mrs. Clinton last year. The fund-raiser, to be held Feb. 5 at the Fifth Avenue home of the Democratic donor Jill Iscol, is another sign that he will not use his influence on behalf of Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, this year’s great liberal hope.

Ms. Warren has insisted that she will not run, but several activist groups have started efforts to draft her as a challenge to Mrs. Clinton from the left.

It will take a $1,000 contribution to attend the Dean fund-raiser, $2,500 to become a member of the host committee, and $5,000 to be a chairwoman or chairman of the event.

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/01/22/?entry=mb-3

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Howard Dean Throws Weight Behind Clinton in Blow to Warren Supporters - will headline fundraiser (Original Post) wyldwolf Jan 2015 OP
I was going to complain about the headline, but it's right. It's not a blow to Warren. stevenleser Jan 2015 #1
exactly. It isn't about Warren, who I'm quite fond of. wyldwolf Jan 2015 #2
Senator Warren understands that she can't win the general against Jebbie and/or Mittney. BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #5
Or we could have a mainstream center-left Democrat like Hillary Clinton in the White House brooklynite Jan 2015 #6
if she ever goes "center left" let us know lol nt msongs Jan 2015 #7
Oh, indeed. onyourleft Jan 2015 #10
She got stuck at ''UBS'' Octafish Jan 2015 #27
The person who is to the right of the President that says LondonReign2 Jan 2015 #8
Warren is more well known now than Obama was in 2007. Dawgs Jan 2015 #20
That's not the impression I'm getting. Maybe her supporters should word a little harder? BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #25
I thought we already knew that Dean was in the Clinton camp... CTyankee Jan 2015 #3
Warren's out there ripping trickle down economics BeyondGeography Jan 2015 #4
She's not allowed to change her mind/position? Dawgs Jan 2015 #21
Of course she is, but that's not the point BeyondGeography Jan 2015 #22
So, Hillary's more recent past matters less? Dawgs Jan 2015 #23
"And, Hillary isn't running either." True. But she's never said she wasn't going to. BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #26
That's ok because Mrs. Clinton isn't running. nt postulater Jan 2015 #9
^ AtomicKitten Jan 2015 #11
kick & recommended. William769 Jan 2015 #12
Wait until Warren headlines. That'll be fun here. nt msanthrope Jan 2015 #13
Those activist groups Jamaal510 Jan 2015 #14
they aren't activist groups. just bloggers JI7 Jan 2015 #15
Those "Activist Groups" have two years to good work whether Hillary, Jeb or Romney run... KoKo Jan 2015 #16
Not to mention Bernie supporters KamaAina Jan 2015 #17
Mandatory Thrown Under The Bus Image goes here: freshwest Jan 2015 #18
LOL. Only would Hillary supporters think this is a blow to Warren supporters. n/t Dawgs Jan 2015 #19
"Mr. Dean, who was the liberals’ champion during the 2004 presidential campaign," bvar22 Jan 2015 #24
LOL, are you getting paid or just on your own time? nt Logical Jan 2015 #28
LOL, no, I'm just here to make you use up YOUR time. wyldwolf Jan 2015 #31
Howard Dean has been in Hillary's camp for several months now. Stellar Jan 2015 #29
I'm ready davidpdx Jan 2015 #32
He is too much of a fiscal conservative for my taste, and I absolutely will not vote for Hillary. liberal_at_heart Jan 2015 #30
 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
1. I was going to complain about the headline, but it's right. It's not a blow to Warren.
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 02:27 PM
Jan 2015

It's a blow to those who refuse to take Warren at her word that she isn't running.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
5. Senator Warren understands that she can't win the general against Jebbie and/or Mittney.
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 02:35 PM
Jan 2015

She doesn't have that kind of name recognition yet. She also understands that, although she's very popular in Massachusetts and in the Liberal blogosphere, she won't get that kind of love across a nation that's wary of anything progressive - because M$M, flushed with billions of dollars of lying ads, will tell them to be.

That would mean that we can see another Bush or 0.01%er in the White House - with a Republican House and perhaps even Senate. This would kill her Consumer Financial Protection Bureau even before it could really take off, and it would kill health care reform, most likely put two or even three more pro-corporate Republicans in SCOTUS, and more war in the M.E. It would stop job growth, perhaps even reverse the minimum wage hikes currently popular in States, and a Republican president and House will do everything they can to UNdo everything President Obama has worked so hard for to get through. I don't believe she'd want that kind of responsibility - or blame.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
27. She got stuck at ''UBS''
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 10:04 PM
Jan 2015

Since the repeal of Glass-Steagal, specializing in offshoring all kinds of Wealth Management:

http://financialservicesinc.ubs.com/revitalizingamerica/SenatorPhilGramm.html

Which, like all Buy-Partisanship, is good for the One Percent.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
8. The person who is to the right of the President that says
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 03:01 PM
Jan 2015

his economic policies are 1980's Republican and that in many ways Nixon was more liberal than he is?

Third Wayers are hilarious when they try to define "center-left".

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
20. Warren is more well known now than Obama was in 2007.
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 04:53 PM
Jan 2015

Name recognition has nothing to do with it.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
25. That's not the impression I'm getting. Maybe her supporters should word a little harder?
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 10:00 PM
Jan 2015

Name recognition has everything to do with it. You didn't think the majority of Americans voted for candidates based on politics and knowledge of their positions on issues, did you? Just look at how Duhbya damaged the Bush family name that Jebbie Bush gets beat by Mittney among registered Republicans, for chrissakes.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
3. I thought we already knew that Dean was in the Clinton camp...
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 02:33 PM
Jan 2015

It certainly confirms what I have assumed all along.

BeyondGeography

(39,380 posts)
4. Warren's out there ripping trickle down economics
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 02:33 PM
Jan 2015

without even mentioning that she was once a Republican. She really isn't running.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
21. She's not allowed to change her mind/position?
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 04:56 PM
Jan 2015

In that case, does that mean that Hillary is still pro-Iraq war.

BeyondGeography

(39,380 posts)
22. Of course she is, but that's not the point
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 05:50 PM
Jan 2015

Her two-decades old past only matters if she's seeking the nomination. She's not, so she doesn't go there.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
26. "And, Hillary isn't running either." True. But she's never said she wasn't going to.
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 10:01 PM
Jan 2015

Senator Warren has said it over and over and over and over...

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
14. Those activist groups
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 04:05 PM
Jan 2015

could've instead put all effort behind Sanders, since he hasn't totally ruled out running yet.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
16. Those "Activist Groups" have two years to good work whether Hillary, Jeb or Romney run...
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 04:13 PM
Jan 2015

They aren't going anywhere but forward. It doesn't matter who is President (as we have seen) its what goes on ....out here in America on the ground that will make a difference.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
18. Mandatory Thrown Under The Bus Image goes here:
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 04:30 PM
Jan 2015


It's crowded under the bus, but the conversation is good and we share cookies with each other...

Expect to see a rash of coverage of all of Howard's sins. Just sayin'


bvar22

(39,909 posts)
24. "Mr. Dean, who was the liberals’ champion during the 2004 presidential campaign,"
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 06:39 PM
Jan 2015

???
Made me laugh.

BTW: It is "Dr. Dean".

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
29. Howard Dean has been in Hillary's camp for several months now.
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 10:11 PM
Jan 2015

And he been saying so to ANYBODY that ask him. Hillary needs some good old fashion competition, beside ...I'm still not ready for her.

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