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CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 05:06 PM Jan 2015

Ordinance would ban electronic cigarettes on BART

Many environmental health scientists aren’t so sure. Maciej Goniewicz, a toxicologist at the Roswell Park Cancer Institute in Buffalo, New York, says, “This is vapor, but only a small proportion of it is water.” Mostly, he says, it’s made up of propylene glycol and/or glycerin, the main ingredients in the “e-liquid” (or “e-juice”) that is vaporized inside e-cigarettes. When heated, these solvents produce an aerosol resembling cigarette smoke.2 Most e-liquids also contain flavorings and preservatives.3,4 http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/122-a244/



Ordinance would ban electronic cigarettes on BART

BART passengers may no longer be able to use electronic cigarettes on trains, after the transit system’s board of directors voted Thursday to adopt an ordinance that would ban the use of such devices in the BART system.

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“A number of complaints have reached the board of directors about people using electronic cigarettes and vaping devices on BART property,” said board member Robert Raburn in the release. “Other transit providers have enacted prohibitions that we now propose to enact.”

E-cigarettes, also called vapes, do not burn tobacco but instead heat liquid nicotine and flavoring to form inhalable vapor. Unlike their traditional counterparts, e-cigarettes do not release as much secondhand smoke, according to Nikolas Ignacio, an employee at Skyline Vape, an e-cigarette retailer on San Pablo Avenue.

“It’s a lot healthier,” Ignacio said. “I actually use it to help myself quit smoking cigarettes. I feel better going about my day.”

Various health advocacy groups, such as the American Lung Association, were present at the Thursday meeting and said they supported the ordinance because they see e-cigarettes as just as harmful as their traditional counterparts.

Serena Chen, policy director for the American Lung Association in California, received several complaint emails from San Francisco residents regarding people using e-cigarette devices aboard trains. She then contacted Raburn, who brought the concerns before the board and drafted the ordinance.




http://www.dailycal.org/2015/01/25/new-ordinance-ban-e-cigarettes-bart/
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MADem

(135,425 posts)
1. I think this is a good idea. I really don't want people breathing their glycol-laced water vapor
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 05:09 PM
Jan 2015

in my general direction on public transportation. They can wait until the car stops. There are enough smells out there for most noses; who needs one more?

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
3. especially in small, enclosed spaces
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 05:22 PM
Jan 2015

...while the air conditioning circulates it throughout the train car.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
4. I was shocked the first time I saw someone do this indoors in a public place.
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 05:30 PM
Jan 2015

You are still combusting something. Gross.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
5. That's just not true, there is no combustion.
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 05:34 PM
Jan 2015

I expect in the end they'll be banned in most places that smoking is banned. In the meantime, people who use them should refrain when in public, or at least be discreet about it.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
6. It's a heat process that produces vapor.
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 05:38 PM
Jan 2015

I expect people to not heat their stuff up and produce vapor or other emissions on public transit or in the mall. It's gross. And yes, I used to smoke.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
7. "Being discreet" is something a lot of e-cig users refuse to do
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 05:39 PM
Jan 2015

Since you can't smoke inside my shop, a lot of the kids downstairs who put the paper together have e-cigs to use when the inserter is running. They all love to blow out huge clouds of vapor.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
8. Are they explicitly permitted to use them?
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 05:44 PM
Jan 2015

I wouldn't expect them to try to be discreet if they've been given permission to use them openly.

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