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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNYC DU'ers. Curious. What are the logistics of dealing with 2 ft of snow.
I'm guessing they can't just plow it onto the sidewalks.
blackcrow
(156 posts)and into just shoveled driveways. As long as it's out of the street, the town is happy.
They then issue tickets to homeowners for not having cleared the sidewalks in front of their houses.
elleng
(130,964 posts)Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)My personal logistics are... and probably will be for 48 hrs.... laying on my back w. this laptop for extended periods, interspersed w. occasional dog walks into the great white way.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)Once during a snowstorm, I recall watching the trucks go past a couple of side streets by me that hadn't been plowed in hours. (I'm on a relatively high floor.) I was thinking, no, turn right, turn right! You can track the street plowing on line, you know. See: http://maps.nyc.gov/snow/
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Neighborhoods with driveways would be no different than other neighborhoods with driveways.
btw I lived in the country and out driveway was unpaved and a few hundred yards long.
But my dad knew several guys on the road crew and they would plow and cinder our driveway when the storm was really bad.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)alphafemale
(18,497 posts)I am curious about these things.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)In order to melt the snow as fast as a snow blower picked it up, you'd need an enormous source of heat. Which really isn't practical to put into a snow blower.
Also, you have to deal with all the water. You can't just dump onto the ground or you get ice, but you're moving so you can't direct it to a safe location via hoses or similar.
What some places will do is attempt to move as much snow as they can into a few spots, and then use a snow melter like this:
The loader scoops up the snow, dumps it into the melter, and then the melter turns it into water, which is directed to the storm drains.
Only really works if the area is laid out for it to work well - you need places to gather the snow, straight roads to gather it from, but are not so long that you get too much snow to push to the melter. And you need storm drains (or a nearby river) that don't freeze.
Panich52
(5,829 posts)You're going to get a better answer from folks in Erie, PA (Golden Snowglobe winner: http://goldensnowglobe.com/tag/erie-pa-snowfall/ ) or Buffalo, NY. Or several places in mid-west, ND...
Or did you want to know how a city that doesn't usually get deep snow deals with it...?
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)I live in country that can get pretty heavy snow cover. They pretty much plow it where they can & use front end loaders to load the snow into dump trucks to be carted to open places to be dumped.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)Its the law to shovel your snow in front of your residence and your business if you are the owner. If you don't you will be fined. if you shovel it in the streets you will be fined , if you shovel it in front of your neighbors yard , you'll be fined and might get a black eye.And you cant shovel it anyplace on the sidewalk. So yes, how do you get rid of all of that snow? Oh yea and the city snowplows always push the snow on the sidewalks ---NYC DU'er
Sidewalk Safety
Whether you're the owner, tenant, occupant or the person in charge of any lot or building, you must clear the snow and/or ice from your sidewalk within four (4) hours after the snow has stopped falling, or by 11 a.m. if the snow stopped falling after 9 p.m. the night before.
If the snow becomes frozen and too hard to remove, you may spread clean, unused cat litter, salt, sand, sawdust or another similarly suitable material within the same time limits.
As you clear your sidewalk, keep in mind: YOU MUST NOT THROW SNOW INTO THE STREET. It's against the law, and it forces Sanitation to re-plow your street. Also, you should never cover fire hydrants with snow - this could interfere with firefighting efforts.
The bottom line is sidewalks must be thoroughly cleaned as soon as the weather permits.
Failure to comply with the law may result in fines ranging from $100 to $350.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/dsny/html/about/column_feb08.shtml
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)I'm guessing minimum of twenty feet frontage. Also guessing 8 ft wide sidewalk on average? 20x8x2 320 cubic feet of snow.
Before the plow!
What do they expect you to do?
Eat it?
patricia92243
(12,597 posts)alphafemale
(18,497 posts)hollysmom
(5,946 posts)the sidewalk, there was nothing else to do with it. after 2 over 2 foot snowfalls in a row, we ended up walking next walls of 6 feet of snow. it did not warm up for weeks. My landlord could not shove the snow on the stairs high enough, so he tunneld the snow and we had to walk bent over to get through the giant snow arch.
tabbycat31
(6,336 posts)I seriously wish there was a way that we could send the plowed snow to a place like CA that needs the water badly.
rug
(82,333 posts)You just made my inner 8 yr old very happy.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)the streets. They were these very deep, very wide puddles at every corner of melting slush and if you didn't have a good pair of high wellingtons, you were pretty much out of luck. There were times when I didn't think ahead and came home soaking wet from having to walk through a massive curb moat in regular shoes. There was almost no way to avoid them as they were at almost every intersection. The subways were a mess from the melting snow as well. I am in Boston now and it doesn't seem to be as bad here for some reason.
davepc
(3,936 posts)And wind up dumping the snow into the East River.
randome
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Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Anyway, 2 feet.... Pah. Chicago could eat 2 feet in its sleep.
kairos12
(12,862 posts)bread bags could be used as snow shoes.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Depaysement
(1,835 posts)Mounds of snow on the grass 5-6 feet tall. The sidewalk becomes a little path. The plows move the snow into the cars in the parking lanes, not the sidewalk. The car owners get the pleasure of digging out. Same thing happens in every big storm, 1996, 2010 all of them. Shoveling is good exercise.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)blackcrow
(156 posts)and everyone else over seventy in your vicinity.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)But there were areas to mound snow.
Manhattan just seems unique to me as having very few open spaces to shove snow into.
Dorian Gray
(13,496 posts)luckily there is no need for that today. DUD!