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Avalux

(35,015 posts)
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 06:53 PM Jan 2015

“The best slave is the man who believes he is free.” ~ Goethe.

We are all slaves, really. We walk around talking about living in a democracy, we are made to believe we have choices....just how many different kinds of disposable razors do we need anyway?

Very very few of us could wake up tomorrow and decide to do something completely different without a care to $$, unless our basic needs can continue to be met by someone else, but that's not freedom either.

And it all revolves around $$. We are born and trained from day 1 to grow up and learn how to be a good little cog in the wheel, and compete to be the best little cog in the wheel.

Why the best? Because if we're not, we don't get enough $$, we suffer, and may even die. Winners get the $$.

That's kind of where I am today. Thinking about what a huge lie our 'freedom' actually is. People aren't supposed to live like this; every decision made based on $$, on what they have to do, instead of what speaks to their heart.

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“The best slave is the man who believes he is free.” ~ Goethe. (Original Post) Avalux Jan 2015 OP
Which is why the right always screams about hifiguy Jan 2015 #1
It can be depressing if you dwell on that. elias49 Jan 2015 #2
slave MovieBuff Jan 2015 #3
Worker-owned businesses with work place democracy would help. Vattel Jan 2015 #4
The only freedom that matters Maedhros Jan 2015 #5
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
1. Which is why the right always screams about
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 07:15 PM
Jan 2015

'murkan freedumb. There are always plenty of suckers and sheep who will swallow it hook, line, and sinker. Mencken was right - no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
2. It can be depressing if you dwell on that.
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 07:21 PM
Jan 2015

I believe you're right. I've felt the same. (..feel the same).
But there are times when I can let that all fall away ... when I'm with the people I love. With my brand new grandchildren.
(Ironic, though...they will be in the same kettle of fish when I'm gone)
Wow! Think I could go for a drink.

MovieBuff

(3 posts)
3. slave
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 07:28 PM
Jan 2015

While I've seen many similar threads in the past, nobody ever suggested a workable solution. What's your idea?

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
4. Worker-owned businesses with work place democracy would help.
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 07:32 PM
Jan 2015

I know, I should launch into singing John Lennon's "Imagine" right now.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
5. The only freedom that matters
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 07:36 PM
Jan 2015

is the freedom to amass enormous wealth at the expense of others.

All else is "socialism."

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