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babylonsister

(171,079 posts)
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 10:05 PM Jan 2015

RNC Going on All Expense Paid Trip to Israel With "Hate Group"


RNC Going on All Expense Paid Trip to Israel With "Hate Group"
written by Anne Hartman

http://chatabout.com/thoughts/rnc-going-on-all-expense-paid-trip-to-israel-withhate-group-

I'm surprised how under-reported it's been that 168 members of the Republican National Committee are going on a trip to Israel with all expenses paid by the American Family Association (AFA), a group the Southern Poverty Law Center calls a "hate group".

The recently fired spokesman for the AFA, Bryan Fischer, has been no stranger to controversy. He's said that “we are a Christian nation, and not a Jewish or Muslim one,” and that the First Amendment applies only to Christians. Another of his gems is, “Homosexuality gave us Adolph Hitler, and homosexuals in the military gave us the Brown Shirts, the Nazi war machine and 6 million dead Jews.” Fischer also shares the views of those who endorse Uganda’s “kill the gays” bill.


http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/news/splc-to-rnc-members-don-t-participate-in-hate-group-sponsored-trip-to-israel


01/20/2015
SPLC to RNC Members: Don’t participate in hate group-sponsored trip to Israel
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RNC Going on All Expense Paid Trip to Israel With "Hate Group" (Original Post) babylonsister Jan 2015 OP
Incredible! Absolutely incredible! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2015 #1
So the assholes are still going? Politicalboi Jan 2015 #2
Rachel Maddow reported extensively babylonsister Jan 2015 #3
I saw it last night Politicalboi Jan 2015 #5
Yes, watch Rachel, babylonsister Jan 2015 #6
I consider her show the same thing as going to a master class in civics or current events or calimary Jan 2015 #14
I'm all for letting them all go Terra Alta Jan 2015 #4
I agree Politicalboi Jan 2015 #7
With the reason flap re: Netanyahu and boehner, maybe they won't babylonsister Jan 2015 #8
Yes it would Politicalboi Jan 2015 #9
Where is the media on this? Beaverhausen Jan 2015 #10
Great question. First time I had heard of this. babylonsister Jan 2015 #11
Seems contradictory that this loser is leading this particular expedition. delrem Jan 2015 #12
RNC IS a Hate Group. n/t Triana Jan 2015 #13
+1.. So, HateXHate takin' their show on the road and spreading it around.. Cha Jan 2015 #16
I always have found it curious that some of the most vocal American "supporters" of Israel... YoungDemCA Jan 2015 #15
 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
2. So the assholes are still going?
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 10:20 PM
Jan 2015

I guess they figure since they fired Fischer all is forgiven. I can't say what I really want to happen on their plane trip. If only.

babylonsister

(171,079 posts)
3. Rachel Maddow reported extensively
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 10:32 PM
Jan 2015

about this tonight. Don't know where I've been, but had no clue. And yes, they're still going, but she said there's still time to back out.

Great report worth watching; much more detail.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
5. I saw it last night
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 10:39 PM
Jan 2015

And I'll have to watch it tonight at 9:00 my time. I just can't believe they still intend on going. I hope they do. Just one more link in the chain.

babylonsister

(171,079 posts)
6. Yes, watch Rachel,
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 10:42 PM
Jan 2015

because she goes way beyond what I posted. As she does. She keeps me informed when I get to watch her, and so darn smart. She doesn't usually waste time on fluff, which I really appreciate!

calimary

(81,441 posts)
14. I consider her show the same thing as going to a master class in civics or current events or
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:28 AM
Jan 2015

political science.

I ALWAYS learn something from watching her. On pretty much a daily basis.

Terra Alta

(5,158 posts)
4. I'm all for letting them all go
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 10:37 PM
Jan 2015

as long as it is a one-way ticket. The less hatemongers and bigots in the US, the better.

Though it may come to them as a surprise that Israel is not exactly a Christian nation, and very much a Jewish one. Fischer's anti-Semitic crap won't fly there.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
7. I agree
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 10:43 PM
Jan 2015

A one way ticket, and hopefully they get themselves arrested for paling around with a terrorist hate group.

babylonsister

(171,079 posts)
8. With the reason flap re: Netanyahu and boehner, maybe they won't
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 10:49 PM
Jan 2015

even be welcomed. That would be delicious!

delrem

(9,688 posts)
12. Seems contradictory that this loser is leading this particular expedition.
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 11:32 PM
Jan 2015

Any reader of random DU OPs re. Israel should know that Israel is quite progressive w.r.t. LGBT issues. That's a good thing and it's just one issue. This alliance makes little sense to me -- except that politics is politics and plenty of politicians are idiots.

 

YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)
15. I always have found it curious that some of the most vocal American "supporters" of Israel...
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:36 AM
Jan 2015

...are extreme right-wing white Protestant Christians.

To put it bluntly: people who fit that demographic profile were the backbone of the KKK (which, as you likely know, was extremely anti-Semitic and ant-Catholic besides being racist and xenophobic-not that those were mutually exclusive positions to hold, of course) in the 1920s-which had five million members and elected officials from both major parties throughout the country (not just in the South).

I guess issues of race, ethnicity, and class, along with the question of when your ancestors immigrated vs. who the immigrants are today (and what their racial, ethnic, and socioeconomic identities are perceived to be by the established dominant white American culture) shift the ideological priorities of the Right-to say nothing of how these issues complicate what it means to be an "American!", which is whole 'nother can of worms.

Undoubtedly it has something to do with right-wing evangelical Christianity's view of the "End Times", but to reduce it to a simple religious explanation without taking into considerations the *related* factors of race, ethnicity, immigration status, and class-and how they relate to changes in American foreign policy, particularly since 9/11-may obscure more than that illuminates.

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