"intervention"? What!

otherwise its a confrontation...............He knew what the word meant.

Proudly wearing My Tin Hat!

I believe it was, tin foil hat be damned.

Back… and to the left…

Back… and to the left…

What is this? A freudian slip? Naahhh…

Just adorable!

Kittens, Owl and Mike Malloy… What's not to like?

it can (and quite often does) simply mean "to come or occur between two times or events" (which is how McCain was using it in the debate).

for them they didn't ask her to pass an IQ test before they rushed it through.

and to their GREAT misfortune, they likely assumed we women were "all alike" and

wouldn't "notice".

is that picture real, or was it photo shopped? I know he's an asshole,

but it's hard to believe he actually did that in public...Did he?..I'm just curious.

investigated until now..

Now we know for sure..

McCain, not photoshopped

Hard to believe this is not photoshopped. John McCain actually did this. The description from Yahoo, where it's curently the #1 most emailed photo in the world:

US Republican presidential nominee Senator John McCain (R-AZ) reacts to almost heading the wrong way off the stage after shaking hands with Democratic presidential nominee Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) at the conclusion of the final presidential debate . . .

Does he think the cameras go off when they stand up?

This isn't the only reason he's behind, of course. Eight years of Rs, a dynamic opponent, a tanking economy, etc., all helped.

But a Steady Reliable Wise Man might have actually turned the crisis into his biggest advantage. The country wants someone they trust in a crisis. Everything else is out the window.

MOre..
http://open.salon.com/blog/dave_cullen/2008/10/16/mccain_not_photoshopped

It's so weird..I'm not even sure what to make of it...Was he trying to cover his

embarrassment at missing the wrong exist with a lame attempt at humor?...What's

with the "monster walk"? He just looks like an ass.

Thanks for the link..I'll check it out to see what they say.

There is also video of that post-debate monster march.

What can you say?...He looks like an idiot.

he IS and idiot.

Removed, my apologies to whathehell.

a little over the top for my taste, but whatever floats your boat.

worked and is working to kill and maim so many with his warmongering ways ........ it doesn't really 'float my boat' as much as it makes me smile every when I remember the day after, and how much fun people here had submitting their pictures (there were many, many more).

No problem.

statement about intervention was made at the same time.

when we realize we've goofed up, he grimaced and made an embarrassed gesture meant to be self-deprecating as he followed Obama off the stage. The expression and hand gestures lasted for only a second, but unfortunately for Gramps, it was immortalized on film. If you see a video of the moment (or see it live, as most of us did), it is far less grotesque than the photo makes it seem.

That picture just happens to be from an angle that makes his grimace and gesture seem more outrageous than it actually was in the moment.

Now, having said all that, I have to admit that I LOVE that picture and the way oit makes McCain look, because although it really wasn't that grotesque a moment in real life, it nevertheless does capture what I see as the essence of the man. He is not at all a serious person. Instead, he is an opportunist, a self-aggrandizing SOB, and a troll who has managed to weasel his way into a position of power and influence. His political behavior (and the damage it causes) *is* as grotesque as that picture makes a brief, innocuous moment seem to be. Therefore, although it is a real picture of a real occurrence but a false representation of what actually was going on at that moment, it is a true representation of the significance and effect of the awful trolling that his political career has always been.

ON EDIT: I also see this picture as a perfect embodiment of the stark contrast between Obama's cool, collected *seriousness* as a leader and a statesman and the bizarro clownishness of the RW opposition to him.

Makes you really wonder.

We've been blessed so far; we need the damaged and weakened Secret Service to be especially vigilant for President Obama's remaining term, and thereafter.

"...the way Jack Kennedy and Barry Goldwater agreed to do, before the intervention of the tragedy in Dallas."


He's talking about what would have happened, except that the tragedy intervened and prevented it.

mink reader

apologist for what your philosophy does to the earth.

and what you defend and post on.

what........ you deny you are a neoliberal and your posts don't reflex that?

LOL.........LOL.........LOL.........LOLl........................

Nuclear? Vaccinations? Pharmacology? Telling Putin to go fuck himself?

"When Senator Obama was first asked, he said, "Any place, any time," the way Barry Goldwater and Jack Kennedy agreed to do, before the intervention of the tragedy at Dallas. So I think the tone of this campaign could have been very different."

http://www.debates.org/index.php?page=october-15-2008-debate-transcript

process.

Especially since people to tend to try to talk in a heightened, more dignified manner when on a national debate stage. Or, for that matter, when talking about a tragedy. And this was both.

And it is certainly more normal sounding than talking about a plot to take down JFK as an "intervention" -- that's not a word you even hear used to describe it from CT folk.

Plus, even assuming there was something nefarious about the assassination that we don't know about... I doubt McCain would know, either. And if he did, doubt that he would slip in that manner and with these words.

Plus the "official" reading of it makes perfect sense in the context of the point he was trying to make. Plus his manner did not indicate any kind of "oops" moment.

You have to make such a ridiculous stretch in so many directions to male this what the OP says. I think Occam's razor comes into play here. What it seems like on the surface is probably what it is.

There is so much to really rail Republicans about, including McCain. It's a shame to get caught up in nonsense instead.

In context, the remark is completely innocuous.

Our side is supposed to be the reality-based community -- even if reality forces us to call off today's Two-Minute Hate.

As one who vividly recalls the "intervention", I'm horrified. This needs to be given

a harder look and far more thorough examination.

....call Code Pink '...low-life scum' yesterday?

....wow, what could ever be a lower-life piece of scum than a worthless, slimy, life-long, Republican politician?....they're called 'citizens', johnny....

....if mcCain doesn't like Code Pink, then Code Pink must be doing something right....

So he quite possibly knew early on.

...but I was about to post this to LBN when I ended up here.

More visability............

It's not just that there are fewer who remember around, so many dying off and all, but there are more and more disinformed idiots running around every day. That is the power of television advertising.

they know what is going on and our more informed than we think.

They do call me the professor though.........with some respect and they go to the university.

Thank god for my kids to carry on...........One morning I woke and knew...........carry on CBSNY

We have taken the blue pill and realize we are just there to power their system while
others live in their false reality and are just being fed bullshit.

I wish this gruel tasted like steak.

The world is waking up my friends.........with or without you.

Wonder if anyone said that about American voters and leaders before Nov. 21, 1963.



"The issues are much too important for the Chilean voters to be left to decide for themselves... l don't see why we need to stand by and watch a country go communist because of the irresponsibility of its own people." -- Henry Kissinger on the US-backed coup d'etat in Chile.

And we wonder why the US keeps moving to the right, even when we vote in leaders who promise to move things to the left.

Almost forgot: I read somewhere that JFK found Henry Kissinger to remind him of Nelson Rockefeller's petrocentric worldview. And Prof. Kissinger got a chance to share it from Eisenhower through JFK and beyond. Seeing how closely this world has become Big Oil and Wall Street's playground, the president might've been on to something.

http://www.jfklibrary.org/About-Us/News-and-Press/Press-Releases/Henry-Kissingers-Kennedy-Administration-Files-Opened.aspx

and even more immoral than what occured in the past.

I agree the past must come out..... I have spread your info around the web and you have good mojo because of your links and research........


the next step is tie it together to what's happening now.
some can put those dots together like us.


but some cannot......

"Intervention" in that context could not possibly have meant anything else, obviously.

watch the video he also licks his lips like a reptile ...many times..........thanks david icke....LOL

ask john mc .....Lizard
or the leader of the US senate ...and the other salamanders...... with the private brain running this world.

Thanks for that.
David Ickes is one of my favorite comedians.
Although I haven't heard much from him lately.

in your inept support of the status quo .

glad you enjoy my humour and sardonic sense of irony.

think about it over the years your consciousness hasn't changed.

You're on a roll today Itchy!

LOL.......... Mr. humour ....whose consciousness hasn't changed and can't be changed.

that will give you a start to understanding this american psycho.

The two were talking peace through back channel negotiations and TPTB would have none of it. Too much money to be made from war.