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TheBlackAdder

(28,232 posts)
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 11:40 PM Jan 2015

Pearson's PARCC Test - Are DUers Familiar With This High-Pressure Test?

Dear Fellow DUers,


I live in NJ, which is one of the better performing states, in terms of public education.
The school system my children attend ranks in the Top 50 in the state.


My children are being exposed to a new PARCC Test, which they find difficult to take.
Neighbors, who have Doctorate and Master's degrees, have taken the sample tests
and they have scored low grades on them--now these are people who are actively
enrolled in continuing college education courses, as I currently am.


I am listed with a state school advocacy group and they have published some
concerns with this federally-mandated test. In my town, there might be a change
in teaching--in order to 'teach the test' instead of maintaining their state and federally
awarded teaching methods.


Kindly review their information about this program and add in any experiences you
may have encountered in your district, or with your children, in preparation for this test.



http://www.saveourschoolsnj.org/high-stakes-testing/

http://www.saveourschoolsnj.org/parcc-faq/

http://www.saveourschoolsnj.org/save/corefiles/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/The-12-REASONS-WE-ARE-OPPOSED-TO-PARCC.pdf



I would greatly appreciate thoughtful feedback.


Regards. TBA

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Pearson's PARCC Test - Are DUers Familiar With This High-Pressure Test? (Original Post) TheBlackAdder Jan 2015 OP
I believe that LWolf Feb 2015 #1
"Best" Answers punish people with nuanced thought. This does appears rife with abuse potentials TheBlackAdder Feb 2015 #3
Here are the fifth grade tests, as an example Recursion Feb 2015 #2
The neighbors took the high school tests. TheBlackAdder Feb 2015 #4

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
1. I believe that
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 12:13 AM
Feb 2015

there are currently two standardized tests developed for the CCSS: PARCC, and the "Smarter Balanced" test. All of the 46 or so states that have adopted the CCSS will be giving one of those two tests.

My state, and therefore my district and school, will be giving the Smarter Balanced test, so I don't know anything about PARCC. We haven't seen the Smarter Balanced test, but there is a practice test available online that we've been exploring. There might be a practice test online for PARCC that you could take a look at.

As far as "teaching to the test" goes...that's been the norm since the introduction of high stakes testing, first at the state level in some states, and then at the federal level with NCLB. States that wanted a waiver from NCLB had to 1. Adopt CCSS or another set of FEDERALLY approved standards...good luck with finding "another set." 2. Use high stakes tests based on those standards for both accountability systems and educator evaluation systems.

In other words, NCLB hasn't really gone away; it's been fed some steroids and re-branded.

The very existence of high-stakes tests ensures that there will be teaching to the test. When you threaten people, they are going to circle the wagons.

As the high-stakes testing mandates have grown more powerful, so has the focus on "data driven" instruction. Teaching to the test.

None of this is new. It's just, as I mentioned above, been re-branded.

As far as the CCSS, or any other set of standards, or any test goes? It's not the standards, nor the test that are at the root of the problem. It's the misuse and abuse of those standards and tests. It's the high-stakes. And that misuse and abuse is embedded in the mandates that the public education system must abide by. Mandates created by politicians and corporate power mongers. Non-educators.

Your concern, the concerns of all advocacy groups, should be about the political manipulation of the system through high-stakes tests rather than about one set of standards or one test.

As far as the difficulty of the test goes? I can't speak to PARCC, but I can say that the practice version of the Smarter Balanced test is certainly no walk in the park. Since there are no correct answers given, I've been in meetings with teachers taking and discussing that practice test...highly educated professionals who can't agree on correct answers to many items. That's often because of the prompts to choose the best example/s or sentences providing evidence for something, when all of the choices provide that evidence. The argument then becomes about which is "best," and how many "best" examples there are, since the prompts leave the number of possibilities open-ended.

For the record, teachers have been speaking out against high-stakes testing and the damage it does to public education since it first reared its ugly head back in the 90s at the state level. We spoke up loudly enough when GWB took office and it went federal that his Sec of Ed called us "terrorists." And all along, the general public bought the story about how those high stakes tests were needed because we were mostly incompetent, and the nation needed to bust teachers' unions and fire all those bad teachers.

If parents and the rest of the general public had listened, had "had our backs," from the beginning, we wouldn't be in the current situation. I hope someone is listening now.

TheBlackAdder

(28,232 posts)
3. "Best" Answers punish people with nuanced thought. This does appears rife with abuse potentials
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 12:27 AM
Feb 2015

Thank you so much for your reply.

It's troubling that there are no identifiably correct answers.

This seems to fall in line with certain employers who use vagueness in performance reviews or reduce their 5-tier evaluation system down to a 3-Tier system, so they can selectively pick and choose which employees to fire, or in this case, which school systems and teachers to penalize and which ones to favor.

You are quite correct. This reeks of political and corporate manipulation. Perhaps certain districts will all of a sudden find favor, if they cater to the governor. I'm sure you've heard of the accusations in New Jersey regarding Hurricane Sandy distributions. Also, this might also be used as a tool to selectively target certain teachers in the district, for whatever reason.

From the corporate side, as a hypothetical: school districts that purchase Pearson's training products and services, or products and services from select sources, might find that their grades are reported better than other, non-participating, districts--leading to increased state funding and prestige.

It's a shame that one has to look at these negatives, but with corporate influences, government scandals, local corruption, the Iron Triangle that ties legislators-bureaucrats-special interests together, etc. have completely polluted segments of this society. Once there are special corporate interests involved, the motivation for profit drives all actions. If someone states otherwise, they know very little about Political Science.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
2. Here are the fifth grade tests, as an example
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 12:19 AM
Feb 2015

(Warning: these are pretty big PDF's)

Math

Language



Looks like a pretty decent test for a 5th grader. I especially like that the math test seems to check for actual understanding of the operations ("explain why Johnny's answer is wrong", etc.). And that the language test is about comprehension of longer passages (at least in the 5th grade one).

TheBlackAdder

(28,232 posts)
4. The neighbors took the high school tests.
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 12:41 AM
Feb 2015

My daughter says much of her 10th grade math test involves pre-calculus, which she is taking next year.

She's concentrating in language arts and is an editor of her school's newspaper.


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The tests supposedly blew away the neighbors with a high score of 64 (medical doctor, the other a chemical engineer).

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