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MISSISSIPPI IS NUMBER ONE! MISSISSIPPI IS NUMBER ONE! (Original Post) MohRokTah Feb 2015 OP
That is seriously amazing, but congrats to MS! MoonRiver Feb 2015 #1
Expect that number to drop at least 10% points... SkyDaddy7 Feb 2015 #38
K&R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RKP5637 Feb 2015 #2
Dang, now that they're being praised on a liberal board, they'll stop JHB Feb 2015 #3
Yeah for Mississippi. Good going. jwirr Feb 2015 #4
I'm frankly amazed. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #5
Give our Republican governor and legislature time....they'll fix that in nothing flat! Rowdyboy Feb 2015 #6
Damn! BlueJazz Feb 2015 #10
Is this the article you read, or something like it? petronius Feb 2015 #7
Colorado is the worst... WorseBeforeBetter Feb 2015 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author tecelote Feb 2015 #17
Maybe it's because it's the poorest sunnystarr Feb 2015 #8
They also do not allow religous or philosophical exemptions. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #9
Between us we solved it! sunnystarr Feb 2015 #22
K/R Jack Rabbit Feb 2015 #11
sadly, it likely is because they're the poorest ellennelle Feb 2015 #12
From the site Mississippi Public Schools: brer cat Feb 2015 #16
The point is that it is those who are economically disadvantaged that go public. Because jtuck004 Feb 2015 #18
That is probably quite true. brer cat Feb 2015 #20
That is the public school system. Students in private academies aren't counted there. So because jtuck004 Feb 2015 #23
Are you saying the vaccinations are not required for private schools? brer cat Feb 2015 #24
Private schools have more leeway than public places. And I have no problem at all jtuck004 Feb 2015 #26
One segregation academy actually admitted an African American student KamaAina Feb 2015 #30
those numbers add up to 458,345 questionseverything Feb 2015 #36
Yes. K&R. JDPriestly Feb 2015 #13
K&R Terra Alta Feb 2015 #14
It's also tied for the highest obesity rate in the country George II Feb 2015 #19
Yay! NM frequently thanks Mississippi because otherwise we'd be number 1 duhneece Feb 2015 #21
Oklahoma, too. Frequently in the top 3 or 5 for obesity, poor health, smoking, child abuse, kath Feb 2015 #27
most anti-vaxxers are wealthy, or so I've heard. fried eggs Feb 2015 #25
Unfortunately, there are new laws being crafted. SansACause Feb 2015 #28
The article presents a pretty grim view of the likelihood these idiots will be successful. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #31
And....Mississippi Tea Partiers have introduced House Bill 130.... Avalux Feb 2015 #29
They have no exemptions for religion or philosophical reasons. Same for WV. Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #32
Actually, on the religion exemption, the state Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional in 1979. eom MohRokTah Feb 2015 #33
Yeah, so they don't have one, which is what I said. What do you think you are correcting? Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #34
They tried one and their courts threw it out. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #35
So like I said, they don't have one. Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #37
Smart folks down there in Mississippi. bigwillq Feb 2015 #39
Bet you couldn't find another lark Feb 2015 #40

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
38. Expect that number to drop at least 10% points...
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 07:27 PM
Feb 2015

Now that President Obama has publicly supported getting your kids vaccinated.

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
6. Give our Republican governor and legislature time....they'll fix that in nothing flat!
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 08:42 PM
Feb 2015

Just give a "religious exemption" to everyone and raise the price of vaccines, shut down a few more clinics and hospitals and BINGO! Right back on the bottom where Mississippi is happiest!

petronius

(26,603 posts)
7. Is this the article you read, or something like it?
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 08:46 PM
Feb 2015
http://www.post-gazette.com/news/nation/2015/02/01/Mississippi-yes-Mississippi-has-the-nation-s-best-child-vaccination-rate-Here-s-why/stories/201502010195

Compare that with California, epicenter of the ongoing Disney measles outbreak, where last year almost 8 percent of kindergartners — totaling 41,000 children — failed to get the required immunizations against mumps, measles and rubella. In Oregon, that number was 6.8 percent. In Pennsylvania, it was nearly 15 percent, or 22,700 kindergartners. And each of these states has suffered measles outbreaks in the last two years.

California! We're not the worst!!

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
15. Colorado is the worst...
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 10:00 PM
Feb 2015

at least according to what the PBS News Hour reported earlier this evening. I was surprised at Mississippi's numbers. This, from your link, explains why they're so high:

The secret of Mississippi’s success stems from a strong public health program and — most importantly — a strict mandatory vaccination law that lacks the loopholes found in almost every other state.

Response to WorseBeforeBetter (Reply #15)

sunnystarr

(2,638 posts)
8. Maybe it's because it's the poorest
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 09:00 PM
Feb 2015

state in the nation and has more kids in public schools where vaccinations are mandatory.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
9. They also do not allow religous or philosophical exemptions.
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 09:02 PM
Feb 2015

Something other states will allow which has resulted in broken herd immunity.

The only allowable exemption in Mississippi is medical necessity.

ellennelle

(614 posts)
12. sadly, it likely is because they're the poorest
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 09:43 PM
Feb 2015

the powers that be need to keep their own kind protected from all the diseases 'those people' can spread around, so they made it a law. their own kids don't go to public schools (trust me; virtually no white family in MS sends their kids to public schools, no matter how poor they are). this is all about controlling the black population, which they still feel like they own. so they treat black like they treat their livestock; up on their shots.

it's a sick business, that state. sigh.

brer cat

(24,591 posts)
16. From the site Mississippi Public Schools:
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 10:12 PM
Feb 2015

Mississippi Public School Statistics / Demographics
Total Number of Students 494,297
American Indian/Alaska Native 2,684
Asian 4,321
Hispanic 10,468
Black 235,572
White 202,901
Hawaiian Native/Pacific Islander 55
2 or more races 2,344

Looks to me like a lot of white children attend public schools, no matter how poor they are.



 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
18. The point is that it is those who are economically disadvantaged that go public. Because
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 10:45 PM
Feb 2015

they have long-established other alternatives, if one has the money. And that is mostly white folk.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segregation_academy

brer cat

(24,591 posts)
20. That is probably quite true.
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 11:42 PM
Feb 2015

The post that I replied to was stating that in MS vaccinations were somehow a racial issue, which I find baffling since measles is not a disease carried by just "those people." He/she further implied that there were virtually no white children in public schools, when in fact whites make up over 40 percent of the total. I prefer facts rather than comments that are somewhat inflammatory and contribute nothing to understanding the situation.

Since black children are less than 50 percent of the public school population, I would assume that something other than racism was behind the laws that resulted in most children regardless of race being vaccinated. Mississippi, like the other Southern states, has a long history of racism, but every once in a while, they actually do things that have nothing to do with feelings of "owning" blacks.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
23. That is the public school system. Students in private academies aren't counted there. So because
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 01:55 AM
Feb 2015

black folks are more highly represented among those in public school, and that's where the vaccinations are required and perhaps provided, their vaccination rate is higher across the state.

It is interesting however. I have not met a black anti-vaxxer, though I am positive there must be some. It appears to be something more popular among white folk, and most times those with money, something else that could contribute to the disparity.

brer cat

(24,591 posts)
24. Are you saying the vaccinations are not required for private schools?
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 02:23 AM
Feb 2015

I don't know anything about private schools in MS, but my daughter attended a private school and also parochial schools in GA and proof of vaccinations were always required. It doesn't make sense for them not to.

I have also not run into a black anti-vaxxer, although most that I hear from are on the net and I don't always know their race.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
26. Private schools have more leeway than public places. And I have no problem at all
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 03:28 AM
Feb 2015

thinking that where profit is involved rules may not apply as they do to others.

Thinking about it, those schools likely don't have the reporting requirements of a public schoolrs do, so drawing much in the way of assumptions from this may not be a great use of time.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
30. One segregation academy actually admitted an African American student
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 03:46 PM
Feb 2015

Surprise! He was a star football player.

questionseverything

(9,657 posts)
36. those numbers add up to 458,345
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 04:20 PM
Feb 2015

not 494,296 total students it claims


doesn't say much about ms public schools site if they can't correctly ad 7 numbers together

duhneece

(4,116 posts)
21. Yay! NM frequently thanks Mississippi because otherwise we'd be number 1
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 11:59 PM
Feb 2015

in poverty, school drop out, child health, etc.
Sad for both states.

kath

(10,565 posts)
27. Oklahoma, too. Frequently in the top 3 or 5 for obesity, poor health, smoking, child abuse,
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 02:32 PM
Feb 2015

Divorce, low teacher pay, etc.
Ignorant and damned proud of it! What a great state!

fried eggs

(910 posts)
25. most anti-vaxxers are wealthy, or so I've heard.
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 02:42 AM
Feb 2015

What poor person has time to be googling potential side effects of vaccines?

SansACause

(520 posts)
28. Unfortunately, there are new laws being crafted.
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 03:41 PM
Feb 2015

The group Mississippi Parents for Vaccine Rights are trying to get state laws changed.

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/politicalledger/2015/01/12/vaccinations-mississippi-rate/21642253/

All you gotta do down here is say "Obama is for it" and the knee-jerk reflex is to eliminate it, whatever it is.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
31. The article presents a pretty grim view of the likelihood these idiots will be successful.
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 03:47 PM
Feb 2015

According to the article, religious exemptions are unconstitutional under the Mississippi constitution.

It's extremely unlikely they'll get the "philosophical" exemption accepted.

And Mississippi grants all medical exemptions submitted by physicians, so they'll never get the medical exemption they want, which is one where the parent claims medical necessity with no verification.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
29. And....Mississippi Tea Partiers have introduced House Bill 130....
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 03:45 PM
Feb 2015

Making it easier to opt out of vaccination. That #1 status will be short-lived if the bill passes.

http://billstatus.ls.state.ms.us/documents/2015/pdf/HB/0100-0199/HB0130IN.pdf

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
32. They have no exemptions for religion or philosophical reasons. Same for WV.
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 04:01 PM
Feb 2015

That's the reason. Very few religious people in those States come from outside the vaccination loving branches of Christianity so they don't really see the need to exempt people from cults and such. Baptists vaccinate, thus Mississippi is happy to vaccinate.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
35. They tried one and their courts threw it out.
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 04:11 PM
Feb 2015

Now, they're going around it with the wording in a new law to allow "Conscientious exemptions".

Mississippi will become the Orange County of the south with such a broad exemption.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
37. So like I said, they don't have one.
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 04:22 PM
Feb 2015

48 States allow exemptions right now. Mississippi and West Virginia do not. I don't play 'I predict the future' while talking about science and fact vs flights of imagination and prophecy. I don't think they mix well.

lark

(23,147 posts)
40. Bet you couldn't find another
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 08:10 PM
Feb 2015

MS. is soo poor. I thought you were going to say they were the poorest, had the least education, the highest rate of unemployment or the most part time workers. I was actually really surprised to see they are good at anything, but that's just my bias from a bad experience driving thru the state.

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