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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Single BEST thing about the anti-vaxxer caused measles outbreak in Disneyland?
The nation is finally waking up to the fact that anti-vaxxer bullshit is actually criminal child neglect.
Laws will be changed over this and the madness will cease.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)To behave in such a rational manner...as it is, not so much.
YarnAddict
(1,850 posts)Wrongheaded, yes.
Criminal child neglect, not at all.
The real risk in not vaccinating healthy children is that they could expose immunocompromised children, babies, and unvaccinated pregnant women. Therefore, there is a social responsibility to vaccinate, but they are not neglecting their own healthy children.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)YarnAddict
(1,850 posts)Maybe. Maybe it depends on the circumstances--if I was quarantining my kid, and an unvaxxed Jehovah's Witness showed up at my door, was exposed to my kid and took it home--then maybe not.
Lucky Luciano
(11,258 posts)...but neglect is the more correct word here.
YarnAddict
(1,850 posts)I guess you see yourself as the final arbiter of how children should be raised.
Do you even have any kids?
Lucky Luciano
(11,258 posts)make intelligent decisions on incredibly important public health issues, then maybe the decision needs to be made for them.
It is criminal child neglect, no different from a Jehovah's witness refusing a blood transfusion for their child.
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)but not children.
Statement on value?
JDDavis
(725 posts)video at link
It's one thing for Christie to blunder his way through this and try to pander. For Rand Paul to deny his entire education as a physician, I assume he went to a good medical school and knows something about medicine, that is truly appalling and he, a guy like that should never be let near the White House.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)Just because 100 people get the Measles isn't suddenly going to restore faith and trust in the medical community or the government.
In fact, what are the Freepers blaming? Obama, of course. They say if the borders were secure this wouldn't have happened.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)the leading international reason for not vaccinating children. Such people had no faith in science to restore, they reject science in favor of faith. They reject the medical community. They always have. It is part of their religion, just as being anti gay is part of their religion. It's not that they 'lost faith in gay people' it's just that their religion teaches them to despise us. And vaccines. Go figure.
Lucky Luciano
(11,258 posts)Child from being gay. Then their heads might explode while figuring out the "right" course of action.
randome
(34,845 posts)Of course it wouldn't be enforceable but just hanging a sign out front would ensure that the company isn't liable for this or future outbreaks.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]A ton of bricks, a ton of feathers, it's still gonna hurt.[/center][/font][hr]
YarnAddict
(1,850 posts)I wonder if they could even do that. It would involve checking kids' vaccination records, which seems to be an invasion of medical privacy. And by having not medically trained people doing it and making judgments about whether they are enough just seems--wrong.
randome
(34,845 posts)Something like "Vaccinations must be current unless determined otherwise by medical reasons." Short and simple, no checking, just a notice to give people cause to think. And for the un-vaccinated to maybe stay the hell away from Disneyland.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]A ton of bricks, a ton of feathers, it's still gonna hurt.[/center][/font][hr]
YarnAddict
(1,850 posts)it would be the same as it is now.
randome
(34,845 posts)I don't know if their visitor count will suffer because of this but if I was a corporate board member, I'd at least be concerned that it might.
Telling anti-vaxers, in effect, that they're not welcome at DisneyLand might help make another outbreak less likely, it wouldn't be a certainty of anything.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]A ton of bricks, a ton of feathers, it's still gonna hurt.[/center][/font][hr]
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)Measles, and Mumps and the Flu and the Chicken Pox can cause complications and problems. But the vast majority of the time, a person will recover without problems. So people do not have very much fear with these diseases.
This isn't Ebola we are dealing with here.