the ban them from society, lock them all up, have cps put their kids in foster care, solution proposed by some.

Hasn't worked to stop the anti-vaxxer insanity.

But it will alleviate some of the fascist pro-totalitarianism and pseudo-scientific justification that keeps circulating on this board for setting a precedent for the government to forcibly place foreign material inside a person's body.

This leads us to a point where something must be done. Vaccination is the only proven method to eradicate these deadly diseases.

Children of anti-vaxxers must be removed from the home and vaccinated. The only exceptions are for medical necessity.

Adult anti-vaxxers who refuse vaccines must be completely isolated from all human contact until either they accept the vaccination or all of these diseases are eradicated. The only exceptions are for medical necessity.

Some ideas are just evil. Your suggestion is one of them.

My proposal is much more effective, and it doesn't require us to live out This Perfect Day or 1984.

It's criminal neglect.

Such parents need to have the children removed and need to go to prison to think about their criminal neglect.

The evil people are those who refuse to vaccinate.

Your proposal has been in place for four years now. Vaccines are all completely free. The anti-vaxxer bullshit has only gotten worse and has broken herd immunity in this nation. That makes the issue a crisis.

to have the most vulnerable among us be exposed to illnesses that were eradicated by vaccines. It also doesn't help herd immunity at all.

I think I should be able to choose a safe environment for a newborn too young to vaccinate, or a cancer patient whose immune system is destroyed. In these cases, the anti-vaxers choice is stomping on people's rights hard.

I don't think people will get very far in convincing their opposition by way of being condescending or implying force.

The best way to do it is to find a common denominator, (health, children, etc.) and then continue to supply information and educate people on the pros AND the cons. There is a lot of information out there that brings people to make decisions and their choice does not always mean they are not intelligent, considerate or caring people.

If the threats I've heard here did not have the potential to push people into even a more defensive posture and thereby inflame their need to ignore scientific evidence, then the heavy-handedness might be useful.

Yet, one can understand the strong emotional reaction that some people have to this issue and really, it all revolves around concern for the health of those affected.

The time for talk is over. They have broken herd immunity.

Talk didn't work. Now is the time for action.

You seem to have very strong feelings about that. Is that correct?

What is your ultimate purpose or motivation and by what means and method do you plan to bring about the change?

is clearly defined as criminal child neglect in the law.

This arms CPS to be able to remove the children from the home and have them vaccinated.

Problem solved.

This is no different than a Jehovah's witness refusing a blood transfusion for their critically injured child, and legal precedent in those cases is clear.

It isn't about identifying people who refuse to vaccinate their kids - it is about public health, which is increasingly affected by people failing to vaccinate their kids.

Two; your anti-vax leanings come through loud and clear with this statement. Why would any thinking person pay attention to your "solution", when it resolves nothing except to allow the anti-vaxxers to continue doing exactly what they are doing now?

"Brownshirts"? "Tracking devices"? Is this the sort of thing Jenny McCarthy writes or did you think that up yourself?

college, university, and marriage license... make it so they actually do have to live in a cave to support anti-vax

Just like you remove the Jehovah's Witness parents from the decision about a blood transfusion for a critically injured child.

I therefore propose a simple solution: Quarantine. No access to public installations or events.