She got over it after a bit of pouting and some dirty looks.

That it really isn't just RW nuttery.

There is STILL a lot of really bad information out there. I don't think it's just wingers and that bothers the hell out of me.

We are about the same place we were in 1967, 35 years into the New Deal, when LBJ's Great Society was roaring along. We have at least another decade until people wake the fuck up.

...or maybe, I suppose. The train has left the station.

Have you ever done a poll? They work well, and can be fun at times.

One is now a lawyer and the other has a PhD in Biochemistry and is on the faculty at a major research university. No ill effects from the vaccine!

Their children (my 5 grandchildren) have all been vaccinated as well.

I cannot believe this is even questioned! WTH?

It's our job as parents to take care of our kids and keep them from harm. Vaccination does that.

Anyone who says otherwise in engaging in magical thinking.

And neither of them is anywhere on the autism spectrum.

But if I'll vaccinate my cats, you better goddamned believed I'd vaccinate my kids.

Because I don't have any.

I did receive vaccinations as a kid, but I probably need to get myself tested to see which ones and/or if I need booster shots. I have no idea where my childhood medical records are.

My sister and I were as well, as were my cousins.

NONE of us are autistic.

Autism has an environmental trigger, and all investigative avenues should be examined.

Without knowing what the triggers are, it is not prudent to avoid anything. Not foods, not vaccines, not plastics, not San Jose.

That said, the constant dogwhistling is getting on my fucking nerves.

And each child probably has a unique set of circumstances, making this even more difficult to figure out.

Thanks for the reminder. It's easy to scoff at people with vaccine concerns. We need to continue to vaccinate -- and to continue to fund research; both on vaccine safety and on the causes of autism.

so she was already crying with her mouth wide open. The nurse put the drops in her mouth and we went to the car, with the daughter still crying. LOL
All 4 of the kids got what they needed when it was time. In fact they were exposed to the measles just after the vaccination came out. We were at a family dinner and when I got home, the next day took them in and got them the shots and none of them came down with the measles. Good thing I'd read about the new vaccination.

. . . I'd raise my hand!

All my children have their vaccinations.

The fiction doesn't stand up to the facts. Vaccines prevent illnesses, prevent hospitalizations and save lives.

Vaccination programs work, that's a fact.

But our son was fully boilerplate protected before he encountered others.

I damn sure our two children were vaccinated and I also harp on my son who has two boys to make sure my grandchildren are vaccinated.

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my daughter could have had, she had the others and they served her well.

Knowing that there is something you could have done but didn't would be horrendous.

Their latest vaccines were chicken pox and meningitis two years ago. No health issues that we've experienced (knock on wood). That being said, neither has received the HPV vaccine because we were told recently that they are coming out with an updated one that incorporates more of the strains than the previous version, and we hold off on the pneumonia and flu shots since they're not in a 'high risk' category.

BTW, our pediatrician always gave us all the pros and cons (documentation from reputable sources that he collected in a notebook for parents to view) and he let us decide how far we wanted to go. Even they were 'iffy' re: the HPV vaccine and with the pneumonia and flu shots - only recommend those for kids in high risk categories.

have all been fully vaccinated.....

and both my children were vaccinated! And my grandchildren. Only 1 grandchild is autistic, and very high functioning! There is no excuse good enough to not get it done.

The third cannot be, for medical reasons. Those who choose to not vaccinate out of stupidity are putting his health at risk.

I grew up military...seems like I got jabbed every other week.

There are a number of vaccines adults should be getting to protect children who are too young. The adult form of the diptheria-pertussis-tetanus vaccine, for example. If you're going to be in contact with a baby you're not supposed to wait the usual 10 years, but get vaccinated right away. And many adults should be revaccinated for measles, too.

We've never joined the NRA or listened to Limbaugh's show, either. That's the level at which we put the anti-vax crusade.

I am going to look into getting dtp and measles shots. My grand daughter lives pretty far away, but I have friends with small kids and I also want to protect myself.

Well, except for the single anti-vaxer "friend" who lied to us, and brought her unvaxed kid around everyone without any acknowledgment.

Grrrrrrrrrrrr.

I went back to school at age 39, and WVU's public health policy was that all incoming new students (regardless of age) had to have proof of certain prerequisite vaccinations before the first day of classes.
So i got a new round of everything, including the meningitis vax that wasn't around when i was a kid!

I get yearly flu shots as well, because i work in the service industry, and don't want to get my customers and co-workers sick.

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All fully vaccinated.

It doesn't make sense not to vaccinate.

Didn't hurt them.

and five grandchildren....all protected from so many horrid childhood illnesses.
Vaccination...it's a good thing.

Except for Tetanus, which is probably the one I need most. Major allergy to that one. Boo.

A million years later, one of my children is a doctor with 2 children of her own. She is a strong advocate for vaccination. Both of my grandchildren have had all their shots and my doctor daughter continues to recommend all vaccinations to her patients who have children.

And yes, I would do it again and My kids have vax'd theirs.

There were No vaccines yet when I was a kid...except for Polio. I did Two different vaccines..the serum on the sugar cube and the shot...I didn't get Polio, but knew of kids who did Before vaccines. They were not having a great time in the "Iron Lung", I can tell you.

But-I Did get Measles. I got Mumps. I had Chicken-Pox and I nearly Died from Rubella.

I. Do. Not. Wish. Those. Illnesses. On. Anyone. Period.

It is my (non-professional) opinion the Main culprit for the rise of Autism Isn't with-in the vaccines...Vaccines have been given for decades and it wasn't until the early 1990's it began to Really increase. Why? Well, I suggest we Also look to the food we eat, baby formula we pump into our babies, kids vitamins/snacks etc additives, the air we breath and the water we drink.....

And I am dx'd on the autism spectrum.

I'm a person who got his first polio vaccine in the company of a family friend who walked with crutches and braces from childhood polio. Even then I was very happy to be protected from what had happened to her. She was a very kind person. The look on her face when I ate that sugar cube was profound and I remember it still.

My kids are vacinated

were vaccinated for everything that there was a vaccination for, from 1977 on. unfortunately, the all got chicken pox, but that vaccine is a relatively recent development.

vaccinations were mandatory then to attend school, but i never even considered not doing so. that would be unconscionable.

For all three kids. If my kids were at a school with a low vaccination rate private or public I would be raising cain with the Principal! Maybe this national discussion will lead to parents getting information to shame the anti vax crowd. Ostracize them.

And that's with a father who worked in the state developmental disabilities system in the late '90s into the early '00s, when Wakefield has many parents and advocates working to scare the crap out of people in regard to vaccines. My BS meter doesn't always work well, but it did in this case, though I had to keep my mouth shut in order to do my job. Still, I'm really pissed off at the fact that I still had fears when we took him in for each vaccination. I should not have had to face that kind of anxiety, nor should the millions of other parents who have had to do the same because of the fear mongering.

Yeah, I'm an anxious person. Always have been, and I'm working on it. Oddly enough, my son is also fairly socially anxious, though if you put him on stage you wouldn't know it, but I'm going with genes not vaccines on that reality.

I'm also just going to add that as a historian, I do think a huge part of this problem is the fact that no one they know has died of these diseases. If I thought I could get away with it, I would post Victorian post-mortem photos of children who died from the very things we vaccinate against today. And each picture of one dead child would represent another thousand who also died.

We did hem-and-haw about it initially. As stated in a previous thread, our hippie, dippy pediatrician assured us that it was definitely the only choice to take. She still is getting boosters.

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Never had a moments hesitation with mine. Yes, I cried when he cried; but we both were just fine after a few minutes.

...received everything that was available at the recommended times.

The cats were toughies who didn't even flinch.

I'd learned by the time I was four that it didn't hurt as much if I watched it happen. It didn't make my day but wasn't nearly as bad as a skinned knee.

I've also managed to talk hippie dippie health food types into vaccinating their kids. None of the kids suddenly became autistic, not even when the shots were loaded with thimerosal.

...and are alive and well.

I grew up during the polio epidemic. I just can't imagine anyone refusing vaccination for themselves or anyone else in that particular circumstance. Personal freedom? The freedom to contract polio or the freedom to spread it to others? Jesus!

The latest is only a couple of weeks old.

I remember polio being a REAL scare in the 1950s.

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No Flu Shots!

and what is the purpose of this thread?

I remain up-to-date on my vaccinations, well into my 6th decade.

and no autism. I'm old enough to remember the swine flu and its vaccination regimen that did cause some problems. However even with that the risks of disease are orders of magnitude more than that of any vaccine. Understanding the immune system and knowing how to train it to be ready for known problems is one of the biggest advances humans have ever made. Why shouldn't we share that with our children?

And now that I'm of a particular age I got the shingles vaccine myself.

and I have had cholera, yellow fever, typhus, thyphoid, small pox, polio(sabin&salk), shingles, and a few other shots I can't remember. One thing to think about-military kids get all the regular vaccines and more(see my list) and you do not hear of a high rate of autism in that group, do you??

I was born in 1951 so we didn't have all the vaccinations we have today. I got the ones available (Small Pox), and later Polio. But all my kids got every vaccination available.

than before. It used to be given every ten years as part of the dpt shot. But when my granddaughter was born, they wanted all the adults around her to get a new pertussis shot even though we'd just had the dpt a few years earlier.

When my first was born, I had a very good friend who is a naturo path (not a right wing nut) who recommended a slower pace for vaccinations. He said that they put too many in at 2 month old and I am allowed to pick the pace. I was a stay-at-home mom and could keep my kids from others, so I opted to wait until they were 6 months old before they got their first vaccination. They were up to date by the time they went to preschool, and I got polio as soon as i could.

For me it had nothing to do with autism, but to do with the fact my family has a history of auto-immune diseases.

I don't agree with this thought-process TODAY -- but at the time I had severe post-partum depression and it made sense to me. I am in no way anti-science, and think that vaccinations are important.

but If I ever had any kids, you can bet they would have been vaccinated.

After coming up on 40 years as educators, we've seen it first hand.

Than for them to get a simple shot? Are they too busy eating chips and watching reality T.V. to drive them to a doctor, or what?

I also got booster shots right before they got theirs so they could watch. It had been a long time. We are not dead from a preventable disease.

Because duh. Vaccines are important.

seriously, they suck - hard

However, vaccines do not hold a privileged position in my mind so in the future it maybe new ones developed or new formulations that I may be less trusting of.

I also believe it is at least possible that some portion of people will have side effects and bad outcomes from even long established vaccines and such possibilities should not be ignored in a effort to maintain a unified front in the face of the anti's because the harder you squeeze the more slips through your fingers principle.

So a "yeah" with a little "but" in there and if that makes me an "antivaxxer" then so be it.

When she was about 8 months old, she was exposed to three day measles (rubella) when we went to visit some people one weekend and their kids had it but we didn't know it.

she was too young to be vaccinated (the standard age is 12 to 18 months) and her skin had little red and white dots like hamburger meat, but they were not raised pustules. So she had to suffer through that. She's gotten all her shots otherwise. She's grown now.

I had chickenpox when I was a baby and still have a pit on the side of my nose that nobody would notice. I think I had 3 day measles but not serious measles.

I knew a lady who was born in 1901 in a sod house and she told me that she had had smallpox. That blew my mind.

Interestingly enough, many people who support vaccinations don't behave like Nazi assholes.

Two daughters, got them all their shots on time.

When I was a kid I got all those diseases for which no vaccinations existed at the time, except (fortunately) polio; and when the polio vaccine became available my mom couldn't get me and my brother vaccinated fast enough. I get my cats vaccinated. My children, had there been any, would have been vaccinated. The anti-vaxxers infuriate me.

Because SCIENCE!

But then again, I'm not a moron.

People don't know a thing about them, yet they spout as if they do. The so called new leader? Out in AZ? A cardiologist by training, didn't believe the vaccination stories until he fell in love with his chiropractor wife. NOW, he believes!!!!!!!

Glad I don't have him as cardiologist

all of my children, grandchildren and great grandchildren are vaccinated!

But, neither boy was circumcised!

Alas, I have no children, yet*, but if I did, they would get every vaccine I could find for them. I would rather it sting for a couple of minutes than see them die a slow, painful, agonizing death.

*Gotta meet Mrs. Right first.

My oldest (who does happen to be autistic) had a really ugly reaction to his first DTP shot, and after that, out of an abundance of caution, the others were given in half-doses a week apart, but by golly, they WERE given. And ALL my kids got ALL their vaccinations.

... and they got their vaccinations. In the 90s, there wasn't much question about whether or not you did them, everyone did. In fact I could swear that here in Tx they were mandatory for enrolling in public school.

I understand that there are risks involved, with anything medical there are risks involved. But it doesn't seem like the risk is remotely greater than the reward, exemption from diseases some of which could have disastrous consequences.

If I had more kids it wouldn't be a question for me, all things considered vaccinations are the correct way to go.

She's even received Gardasil and Trumenba, since she does mission work every summer and her pediatrician recommended it. She also receives the flu vaccine but she no longer gets an injection-she now gets the mist.

I love my daughter. I'm going to do everything I can to prevent her from getting a potentially deadly disease.

2 kids, 2 full sets of vaccines.

He will be 40 years old this summer. There was NO way I would not have had him vaccinated. The diseases which vaccines prevent are just plaint horrendous. There is no way I would have taken the risk that he not be protected.

Both our teenaged son and nephew have had all the recommended vaccinations -- including all 3 round of the HPV vax -- and both Lyric and i received boosters and updated vaccinations before we respectively started college as non-trad students.

even though one gets pretty sick from them and the other gets injection site soreness. I'm fully vaccinated and I have a PhD. I take precautions whenever I travel to the tropics as well. I'm not about to mess around with my health or with the health of anyone else.

And the surviving one just got her every 3 year rabies vaccination just a week or so back.

I have trouble even trying to wrap my brain around just how totally misinformed or just plain stupid one would have to be not to.

'cos have.

All of my family, extended and otherwise, two-legged and four-legged, also support vaccination.
For us, it's plain common sense.

already have some vaccinations.

Star Trek Spock that is...

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"

kids are up-to-date on all shots.

Unless you would like to go through it all and make a count. I wouldn't.

Edited to add a raised hand. I would if I had kids.

except for chickenpox which wasn't available when they were little.

Then again, I am a microbiologist and my wife a nurse...we aren't susceptible to woo in my house.

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