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mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 09:07 PM Feb 2015

Jordan will execute female would-be bomber Wednesday

Jordan will execute Wednesday a woman on death row over a failed bombing after the government vowed to avenge the murder of a pilot by the Islamic State group, an official said.

"The sentence of death pending on... Iraqi Sajida al-Rishawi will be carried out at dawn," the security official said on Tuesday, speaking on condition of anonymity.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/jordan-will-execute-female-would-be-bomber-wednesday/ar-AA8WjA1

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polly7

(20,582 posts)
2. I don't know much about this woman's story, but what if (knowing of their horrific
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 09:17 PM
Feb 2015

treatment of the women they've kidnapped) she was used by them and forced to do it?

(Besides my hatred for the death penalty anywhere), this bothers me a lot. How can they be sure she did this willingly?

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
4. You raise a troubling question.
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 09:25 PM
Feb 2015

It's one reason there should never be capital punishment. There is always a small doubt lingering in the background of why did they do it.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
5. She was found guilty and sentenced to death in 2005 after her trial.
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 09:26 PM
Feb 2015

I can't for the life of me see why women are willing to fight with those monsters either.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
9. But we've seen trial outcomes for women sentenced to death in certain areas
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 08:17 AM
Feb 2015

who were obviously not guilty. She may very well be .. I just don't know how much the words of any woman or her defenders are taken seriously or if she may have been forced into it.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
10. Experts say the assumption that women are usually forced into it is wrong
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 09:21 AM
Feb 2015
DURHAM, N.C. — SINCE the terror attacks in Paris two weeks ago, the French police have been on the hunt for Hayat Boumeddiene, the partner of Amedy Coulibaly, one of the slain gunmen. She is now suspected to be in Syria. Some news reports speculate that Ms. Boumeddiene, 26, may have been “the more radical of the two.” Yet one of the first questions that French authorities intend to ask her is, they say, “if she did this under influence, if she did it by ideology, if she did it to aid and abet.”

While much will be made in the coming months of France’s intelligence failures, the West’s inability to appreciate the role that women play in terror should come under the highest scrutiny. Take the role of women in the Islamic State group, also known as ISIS or ISIL. While the group oppresses many women, many also flock to its ranks. Roughly 10 percent of its Western recruits are female, often lured by their peers through social media and instant messaging. The percentage is much higher in France: An estimated 63 of the 350 French nationals believed to be with the group are women, or just under 20 percent.

This story is both a new one and an old one. Women have long been involved in terror of all stripes, from female neo-Nazis in Europe to Chechen “black widow” suicide bombers.

Indeed, despite stereotypes about their domesticity and passivity — the idea that they must always be under men’s influence or tricked into joining — women are drawn to groups like the Islamic State by many of the same forces as men: adventure, inequality, alienation and the pull of the cause.

Once there, they commit violence against other women, including as part of all-female brigades enforcing female morality codes requiring modest dress and sex segregation. They operate checkpoints and go on home raids; they are also reportedly recruiters, trainers of female suicide bombers, wives and homemakers, fund-raisers and propagandists. They also help sanitize the group’s image by posting photos of themselves drinking milkshakes on Instagram and writing chatty, lighthearted tweets.

But the news media and policy makers are playing catch-up when it comes to understanding the full extent of women’s roles in jihadist groups. A large part of the problem is the tendency to fixate on terrorist violence against women, whether it be Boko Haram’s mass kidnapping of schoolgirls in Nigeria or the Islamic State’s sexual violence, slavery, kidnappings and forced marriage. We prefer to see terror through the lens of gender, positing radical Muslim men against women, with the West as their only defender.


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/22/opinion/when-women-become-terrorists.html

polly7

(20,582 posts)
12. Thanks, that helps, and I know there are probably hundreds of thousands
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 09:37 AM
Feb 2015

of widows, mothers who've lost children, women locked up and who've begged with notes they've passed outside to be killed, who've lost their complete family to all of the horror in the ME or had someone they love tortured and who are as full of rage and the desire for revenge as men ... it's just knowing that many have been coerced into things and accused of crimes where they have no realistic representation. I think of all the kidnappings, the forced conversions, rape ... essentially turning so many women into slaves. Like I say, she may be guilty, but the death penalty is still barbaric to me. Life behind bars would be a far worse punishment for the people who do these crimes, no matter what gender.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
7. Will those who killed her brothers in Iraq
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 09:59 PM
Feb 2015

during that illegal war and occupation ever be tried and sentenced?

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
8. Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster.
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 10:02 PM
Feb 2015

Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you. Friedrich Nietzsche
 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
11. Arg
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 09:27 AM
Feb 2015

"You killed one of ours, were killing one of yours now" ....so much for trying to be the good guys in this fight and having any sort of claim to a moral high ground.

This is what leads to back and forth revenge killings (see israel/palestine situation and how well that worked)

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