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CatWoman

(79,302 posts)
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 01:59 AM Feb 2015

Latest Ratings Disaster Shows Morning Joe Has Lost Its Mojo

All successful shows eventually go downhill. Sometimes familiarity breeds contempt. Sometimes a reboot or addition (or subtraction) is needed to bring some much needed energy to a set. And in cable news, all of this specifically applies to MSNBC’s Morning Joe, once described as “revolutionary” by Time magazine and once ranked as the top news program on television by the New York Times back in 2008.

Fast forward seven years later and the show is basically the same as it was during that magical run of 2008: Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski are still your primary co-hosts, with Willie Geist as capable third wheel. The other players rotate but are all still the same familiar faces: Mike Barnicle, Mark Halperin, John Heilemann, Donny Deutsch, Mike Allen (Politico), Eugene Robinson, Nicolle Wallace, etc., all brought in to periodically add to the debate. And that’s somewhat a foreign word at MSNBC lately: Debate.

But over the past year, something just doesn’t feel right about the show. The energy level is poor, particularly in the case of Mika and Geist. Frowns and blank stares seem to permeate the set; it’s like that look Bill Murray had in Groundhog Day from watching the same Jeopardy episode over and over again and knowing the answers before they were asked. The passion that was so apparent in ’08 and even as recently as 2012 does not remotely approach the same level.

Proof positive came this past Friday night, when the show was broadcast in primetime for two hours from the site of the Super Bowl. The ratings result was disastrous: 65K in the key 25-54 demo at 8:00 PM and 72K for the second hour at 9:00 PM. For context, Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow did a 104K and 143K at those hours the night before, respectively. Yes, viewership is lower on Friday nights compared to Thursdays, but that didn’t seem to affect Fox and CNN very much: Fox’s O’Reilly Factor and Kelly File did a 434K and 331K in the demo last Friday night, with Anderson Cooper and a CNN Special at 9:00p doing a 157K and 179K, respectively. Add it all up, and even with a Katy Perry interview and Super Bowl backdrop, the show got beat nearly 7-to-1 by Fox at 8:00 p.m., while CNN had two-and-a-half times the audience at 9:00 PM. And it’s not any prettier in the morning race, either.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/latest-ratings-disaster-shows-morning-joe-has-lost-its-mojo/

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NBachers

(17,136 posts)
2. I hear there's an open slot on the late-night Psychic Network infomercials.
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 02:31 AM
Feb 2015

Is Celebrity Boxing still on?

Midnight Writer

(21,795 posts)
3. Watched a bit this morning
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 02:39 AM
Feb 2015

Guests: Jim DeMint and James Carville.

DeMint was treated with all the respect of a powerful and thoughtful leader.

When Carville was on, Morning Joe interrupted him repeatedly, and finally began shouting over him, arguing with every remark, however innocuous.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
4. How are Cooper Anderson's ratings even that high?
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 02:46 AM
Feb 2015

157k? Both Hayes and Maddow have more substance than him hands-down.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
8. It never had mojo, it was a political Johnny Bravo...
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 06:11 AM
Feb 2015

(Greg Brady version, not the cartoon lunkhead)

...it fit the suit for people who wanted a suit filled, and didn't really care about what was in it.

It fulfulled the Washington junkie's desire for a daily "hit" of substance, without actually providing that substance.

hatrack

(59,592 posts)
9. Squinty And The Meat Puppet going down the tubes?
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 09:16 AM
Feb 2015


Couldn't possibly happen to a nicer conglomeration of hacks.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
10. It baffles me to think that this show ever even had "mojo"
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 09:22 AM
Feb 2015

I've watched it for maybe a cumulative of two minutes (if that) over the years, and each time I've seen it I could feel my brain beginning to curdle into cottage cheese.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
12. Their ratings were always crap, there was never any 'mojo'.
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 11:38 AM
Feb 2015

In the niche market of 'cable news' no one gets what are actually 'good ratings'. Fox gets the 'best ratings' usually, but they are still very small numbers. I've always said this about Joe's show: it is hard to actually be on national TV and have so few people watch you.
Those prime time numbers should be compared to Network News to get some perspective. Many liberal people decided years ago that cable was the future and broadcast news was finished, but the three big Networks pull in millions and millions of viewers, any one of them has more viewers than the entire cable line up has at that hour.
So maybe 3 or 4 million are watching all of cable news at 'the news hour' while over 20 million are watching broadcast.
Joe had no 'mojo' the ratings were always crap now they are much crappier.

Johonny

(20,888 posts)
13. I don't know anyone that watches this show
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 11:56 AM
Feb 2015

Thing I've never heard said to me, "I saw on morning Joe that..."

It is safe to say that this show sucks.

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