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If the pilot was killed at the beginning of January, how did Fox just happen to have that video in time for the Jordanian king's visit with the the US President? How did the king just happen to be in America in time for the release of that video?
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article9076286.html#storylink=cpy
Pardon me but I'm a very suspicious and cynical 'almost senior citizen'.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)The timing of the King of Jordan's quiet visit likely is no coincidence. We're about to see a much more active US and NATO role in Syria and Iraq. Much of the basing for an expanded attack would be in Jordan. Where that goes is a matter of informed speculation, but to be skeptical, ISIS may not be the only target of a military intervention. The confluence of events is troubling, to say the least.
malaise
(269,157 posts)This planet is in serious trouble.
Why aren't Bush and Cheney at the Hague yet?
jwirr
(39,215 posts)were going to do in retaliation for the killing of the pilot. I think we are about to escalate the attacks on ISIS.
Was talking with my daughter about things like this and we ended up agreeing that there are two things that have to be addressed. I hate war but the mess in Nigeria is one issue that I think we need to address - heard later that African's themselves are going to take this on. Good for them.
The other issue is ISIS. Bush created them and now they are not just threatening people in the ME but everywhere in the world. Our allies in the ME and the countries that have already had attacks need to step up and help us stop this.
These two issues IMO are not going away by themselves and they are only going to get worse.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)terrorist group without cutting off the money that fuels both groups at its source. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/paying-for-terrorism-where-does-boko-haram-gets-its-money-from-9503948.html
jwirr
(39,215 posts)Fuzzy Slipper
(25 posts)Try to embarress Obama and the King?
I can see that.
Maybe that's what pissed off Saudi billionaire Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal and caused him to dump his Newscorp stock too.
Billionaire Alwaleed Sells $190 Million News Corp Stake
(Bloomberg) -- Saudi billionaire Prince Alwaleed Bin Talals investment firm sold a stake valued at almost $190 million in News Corp., reducing its holding in Rupert Murdochs media company to about 1 percent.
Alwaleeds Kingdom Holding cut its ownership of Class B shares to 2 million from 13.2 million, or 6.6 percent, it said in a statement to the Saudi bourse Wednesday. The sale generated 705 million riyals ($188 million), which will be used for other investments, it said. Through Kingdom, Prince Alwaleed holds stakes in companies including Citigroup Inc. and Twitter Inc.
Alwaleed, who had the second-largest holding of voting stock in News Corp. after the Murdoch family, has been a staunch ally of the media baron. He publicly supported the familys running of News Corp. amid phone-hacking revelations in 2011 that saw the New York-based company abandon its bid to take over the rest of European pay-TV operator Sky Plc.
All in all very convenient timing.
Good catch.
malaise
(269,157 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)So likely they new that King Abdullah was traveling to the US and released he video for maximum effect.
ISIS can also play Fox like fucking fiddle.
malaise
(269,157 posts)usually has close links to Western intelligence.
From day one I smelled a rat re this ISIS business.
Time solves all problems - truth will out. I'll wait this one out.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)people with agendas decide what we will see as NEWS.
Anything receiving this amount of attention is being driven by some big players' agenda.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)So that they can not develop agendas of their own. That they can not decide to go to war without the "West" manipulating them like puppets.
That is a pretty staggering conspiracy. That only western establishments are capable of doing terrible things.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
malaise
(269,157 posts)but it is your corporate media who is covering it non-stop. Maybe you should ask why.
Throd
(7,208 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)that openly claims to lead every Suni Muslim and intends to kill every Shia Muslim because Shia have left the true faith. They have created an effective multi-medial recruitment systems that preys on the poor and the mistreated, and send them to die on battlefields in Syria and Iraq. They have successfully directed attacks in Egypt, Europe and Australia, and are calling for attacks everywhere, including Saudi Arabia. They have specifically said they will attack the US in New York.
They rule by terror. Murder anyone of a different religion, convince young girls to come there and them turn over to their fighters as concubines.
This is a really big story that is being covered internationally because it touches nations on four continents and millions of people.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Could have been in a lock box in New York, waiting for Fox to pick it up and spread it instantly no matter what the other media did.
A Sleeper Box.
malaise
(269,157 posts)Fool me once...
Throd
(7,208 posts)Throd
(7,208 posts)Without a delivery date to Fox, everything is just speculation.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)ISIS killed him at the beginning of January but was holding it back in order to try and win the release of one or two fellow nutjobs in Jordan.
Jordan was open to trading prisoners to get the pilot back but demanded proof of life which the scumbags couldn't produce because they already killed the guy.
When it became obvious that they weren't going to get what they wanted they published the images and video via their normal channels of assholes. The video was widely available on Youtube and other sites before Faux news decided to help them out and show them on their fake news channel.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)And the execution of the two Jordanian ISIS fighters was not retaliation, the executions were already scheduled to hang long ago according to law, it was delayed pending the negotiations.
The female prisoner executed had been on death row for her part in a 2005 bombing in Jordan.
GeorgeGist
(25,323 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,361 posts)A typical report of the release of the video on social media says nothing at all about Fox:
According to the SITE monitoring group, which follows militant Web sites, the 22-minute video, titled Healing of the Believers Chests, was released on social media even as Jordan struggled to learn his fate.
Shortly after the video appeared online, Jordanian state TV reported that the pilot was killed on Jan. 3. It gave no further details on how the date was determined, but it suggested that it was new information because Jordanian officials sought proof of life evidence from the Islamic State as recently as earlier this week.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/world/wp/2015/02/03/islamic-state-video-appears-to-show-burning-death-of-jordanian-pilot/?tid=sm_tw
Are you saying that it was Fox that first put the video on the internet for public access, not IS? If so, how do we know that?
Daemonaquila
(1,712 posts)Remember, ISIS, Jordan, and Japan were in talks to do a prisoner swap. The pilot was one of the people Jordan demanded to swap for the Jordanian prisoners. However, Jordan was demanding proof of life, and was getting nothing from ISIS. (Now, we obviously understand why that was the case - they had killed him weeks earlier.) Suddenly the Japanese hostage is murdered, and then the video is released. Apparently they were trying to bluff until they could no longer maintain the fiction that the pilot was alive.
Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)I agree with you.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)Everyone had it when it was released.
ISIS was bargaining for something it wanted by pretending that the pilot was still alive, and when they couldn't achieve anything without proof that he was, they released the video.
It's not FOX that released the video - it's the Islamic State of Snuff Flicks that released the video. Fox just apparently aired it, which I think was wrong.