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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAs usual, California is ahead of the game - this time on mandatory vaccinations.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/04/california-vaccination-bill-repeal-personal-belief-exemption_n_6615490.html?utm_hp_ref=politics(snip)
California Bill Would Make It Harder For Parents To Say No To Vaccines
The Huffington Post | By Lydia O'Connor
Two California lawmakers introduced a bill Wednesday morning that would eliminate parents' ability to opt out of school-mandated vaccines because of personal beliefs.
The bill from state Sens. Richard Pan (D-Sacramento), a pediatrician, and Ben Allen (D-Santa Monica), an educator, comes amid the worst measles outbreak in 20 years with more than 100 cases recorded by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The flare-up is anchored in California, where many affluent communities have dangerously low vaccination rates and around 13,000 current kindergarten students are not vaccinated, according to an analysis by the San Jose Mercury News.
(snip) If the bill is passed as filed, parents may only skip having their children vaccinated in cases where it is prevented by physical or medical conditions.
"Immunization of a person shall be required for admission to a school or institution ... unless the child has a physical condition or medical circumstances that contraindicate vaccination as prescribed in Section 120370," the measure reads.
It's bad enough endangering your own children; it's unconscionable endangering the children of others.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)It's also pretty brave on the part of the Democratic legislatures since so many Vaxxers are liberal and it could cost them their jobs after the next election.
Dwayne Hicks
(637 posts)Some are liberal yes, a lot seem to be right wing tea party types.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,699 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)daredtowork
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This could also provide impetus for home schooling and other libertarian and wingnut alternative schooling ideas. The home schooling movement is part of what fostered the echo chamber that made the Tea Party possible.
Schisms from public schools will reduce their tax funding.
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SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)But so will the number of students that need to paid for. Not quite break even, but close.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,323 posts)the ignorance/arrogance at DU often embarasses me.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)I'm with you there. Some of the worst comes out of that state, but all states have their warts.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Go figure.
raven mad
(4,940 posts)At least they're going to kick it toward the goal line! (Pardon, I'm still in football mode............)
Terra Alta
(5,158 posts)Religious and personal beliefs should not be an excuse for not vaccinating your kids. If you're going to send your kids to a public school, vaccinate 'em.
GeorgeGist
(25,323 posts)raven mad
(4,940 posts)Congrats, way South! Will send y'all an iceberg when it's 100+ above and 98% humidity!
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Yep, if it passes and goes into law, it will be easier to opt out of vaccinations in Mississippi that it currently is in California.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Just sayin'
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)If Mississippi is beating you out at anything other than being terrible, you're in trouble.
Throd
(7,208 posts)raven mad
(4,940 posts)spend some time way up north and one summer in San Francisco. But it seems to me y'all are usually way out ahead of the game.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Old-school hippies and their descendants all the way.
Throd
(7,208 posts)dissentient
(861 posts)Some on Du have sounded like they want all children immunized, and not have any exceptions (except for medical reasons) or sneaky ways to get out of it.
So this doesn't seem like it goes nearly far enough if you have that opinion...
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)nt
daredtowork
(3,732 posts)It also seems to me Mississippi and West Virginia would be first ib line to re-introduce eugenics. They made the decision that benefited that met the needs of their elites and protected their children.
Interesting how no hardline reference to the Constitution or The Founders comes up when it doesn't suit the current law they want passed.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)while the other 48 states do not.
4139
(1,893 posts)I hope more states follow through with this as well.
seveneyes
(4,631 posts)A clue to either lies within why they allowed people to ignore the safety of society in the first place.
JI7
(89,264 posts)What this shows is how far behind California is
rpannier
(24,338 posts)and point to science as proof that climate change is real have no problems opposing vaccinations
Bill Maher was one of those (I'm not sure he still is)
I find the science pretty concrete, get vaccinated and climate change is happenig
iandhr
(6,852 posts)We as progressives are part of the problem. California liberals who reject everything that's not natural are anti-vaxers. This has united the extreme left and the extreme right.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)"epidemic." And apparently, those who independently research such outbreaks are aware that often a serious reaction to the measles' vaccine itself is diagnosed as measles!
http://www.nvic.org/NVIC-Vaccine-News/January-2015/measles-in-disneyland-third-mmr-shot-and-vaccine.aspx
Most doctors and parents dont know that the CDC warns, During outbreaks, measles vaccine is administered to help control the outbreak, and in these situations, vaccine reactions may be mistakenly classified as measles cases. A small proportion of measles vaccine recipients experience rash and fever 1014 days following vaccination. 67
Yes, MMR vaccine can cause vaccine strain measles infection that looks just like measles. 68
Plus, other common viral infections like adenovirus infections can look just like measles with rash, fever and conjunctivitis symptoms 69 70 and be misdiagnosed as measles UNLESS there is expensive RNA lab testing done to confirm that what looks like measles really is wild type measles. 71
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)truedelphi
(32,324 posts)I even still believed in vaccines after I suffered from Guillaume Barre Syndrome, immediately following the swine flu shots that were administered during the 1970's.
At a point in time when I had about two dozen articles published in a Marin County newspaper, I was selected to serve on a California Health Council. During that time period, I kept meeting people who had been in the Vaccine Industry, and then when they refused to fudge the results of their research, or they came forward with some problem they knew needed to be made right so that people would not be getting flawed vaccines, well, low and behold these scientists were fired and then blacklisted. This kept happening for the entire seven years that I served on the Council.
Right now, the Pharmaceutical Interests have all the power. Why? Because the have the media by the short hairs. (Just as the big nicotine firms once held the media hostage, with its lucrative cigarette ads.)
Ever wonder why in the world we have dozens of ads for pharmaceutical products, one right after the other during TV's prime time? Resear4ch shows that Americans no longer respond to these ads.
But the ads offer such an incentive for the networks to report on health matters in a manner consistent with the Pharmaceutical Industry's need to keep selling vaccines.
Barbara Loe Fisher is a remarkable person. I fully support her.
The situation we are in right now is so reminiscent to me of what we non-smokers went through back in the sixties and seventies with regards to cigarettes. "The studies show cigarettes are safe, and blah blah blah. Now get back to your desk, and quit complaining about the grey smoke that is so thick you can't see from your desk to the window twenty feet away!"