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cal04

(41,505 posts)
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 08:04 AM Feb 2015

Claims Against Saudis Cast New Light on Secret Pages of 9/11 Report

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A still-classified section of the investigation by congressional intelligence committees into the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks has taken on an almost mythic quality over the past 13 years — 28 pages that examine crucial support given the hijackers and that by all accounts implicate prominent Saudis in financing terrorism.

Now new claims by Zacarias Moussaoui, a convicted former member of Al Qaeda, that he had high-level contact with officials of the Saudi Arabian government in the prelude to Sept. 11 have brought renewed attention to the inquiry’s withheld findings, which lawmakers and relatives of those killed in the attacks have tried unsuccessfully to declassify.

“I think it is the right thing to do,” said Representative Stephen F. Lynch, Democrat of Massachusetts and an author of a bipartisan resolution encouraging President Obama to declassify the section. “Let’s put it out there.”

(snip)
“This administration, in response to a congressional request, last year asked the intelligence community to conduct a classification review of this material,” said Edward C. Price, a spokesman for the National Security Council. “We did so in keeping with the standard procedure for determining whether classified information can be publicly released without jeopardizing national security. That process is ongoing.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/05/us/claims-against-saudis-cast-new-light-on-secret-pages-of-9-11-report.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=a-lede-package-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0


the other story on the front page of the NYTimes
Pre-9/11 Ties Haunt Saudis as New Accusations Surface

During the 1980s and ’90s, the historic alliance between the wealthy monarchy of Saudi Arabia and the country’s powerful clerics emerged as the major financier of international jihad, channeling tens of millions of dollars to Muslim fighters in Afghanistan, Bosnia and elsewhere. Among the project’s major patrons was Prince Salman Bin Abdulaziz al-Saud, who last month became Saudi Arabia’s king.

Some of those fighters later formed Al Qaeda, which declared war on the United States and later mounted major attacks inside Saudi Arabia as well. In the past decade, according to officials of both the George W. Bush and Obama administrations, the Saudi government has become a valuable partner against terrorism, battling Al Qaeda at home and last year joining the American-led coalition against the extremists of the Islamic State.

Yet Saudi Arabia continues to be haunted by what some suspect was a tacit alliance with Al Qaeda in the years before the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Those suspicions burst out in the open again this week with the disclosure of a prison deposition of a former Qaeda operative, Zacarias Moussaoui, who claimed that more than a dozen prominent Saudi figures were donors to the terror group and that a Saudi diplomat in Washington discussed with him a plot to shoot down Air Force One.

Saudi officials have staunchly denied those claims, noting that Mr. Moussaoui was a convicted terrorist with a history of mental troubles and little to lose by spreading lies about Saudi officials. On Wednesday, experts on the kingdom also expressed strong doubts about Mr. Moussaoui’s claims.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/05/world/middleeast/pre-9-11-ties-haunt-saudis-as-new-accusations-surface.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=b-lede-package-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

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Claims Against Saudis Cast New Light on Secret Pages of 9/11 Report (Original Post) cal04 Feb 2015 OP
Maybe Obama wasn't clued into this? delrem Feb 2015 #1
Two stories above the fold on the front page of the NYT CJCRANE Feb 2015 #2
He was looking forward, not back. :eyes: nt ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2015 #11
The timing of this aspirant Feb 2015 #3
I thought the same. CJCRANE Feb 2015 #4
A prod of this sort indicates some degree of culpability, or there's no prod for ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2015 #12
Another coincidence... the Saudis sell their shares in fox news the same time Ichingcarpenter Feb 2015 #5
If I remember correctly the wife of the Saudi Ambassador to the US helped to st up ... Botany Feb 2015 #6
US/NATO preparing to escalate campaign against Saudi/Qatar-backed ISIS. No coincidence. leveymg Feb 2015 #7
kick samsingh Feb 2015 #8
K&R Turn over the rocks. woo me with science Feb 2015 #9
Dead men tell no tales. Octafish Feb 2015 #10
Regardless of what's in those pages CJCRANE Feb 2015 #13

delrem

(9,688 posts)
1. Maybe Obama wasn't clued into this?
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 08:37 AM
Feb 2015

But he was clued into kidnapping and torture, and black sites, and it didn't make any difference. So maybe he was, and it doesn't make a difference.

aspirant

(3,533 posts)
3. The timing of this
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 08:59 AM
Feb 2015

seems a little contrived. The Saudi King dies and OPEC is flooding the market with cheap oil to offset US shale and fracking adventures. The Oil Giants are getting jittery and here comes the threat of declassifying 28 pages showing that Saudi Arabia was the evil money villain of 9/11. Hmmm.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
12. A prod of this sort indicates some degree of culpability, or there's no prod for
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 11:34 AM
Feb 2015

the purposes of extortion.

9/11 was a product of PNAC and Saudi Arabia, one way or another.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
6. If I remember correctly the wife of the Saudi Ambassador to the US helped to st up ...
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 09:33 AM
Feb 2015

.... some of the hijackers in San Diego w/$ and a place to live too.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
7. US/NATO preparing to escalate campaign against Saudi/Qatar-backed ISIS. No coincidence.
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 09:49 AM
Feb 2015
(CNN)The U.S. military has moved some search and rescue assets into Northern Iraq, a U.S. official said on Wednesday.
Read more: http://edition.cnn.com/2015/02/04/politics/isis-iraq-u-s-military-moved/


A serious effort to eradicate ISIS would have to include cutting off their sources of external finance in KSA/GCC states. That is something the regimes in Riyadh and Doha have manifestly been unwilling to do on their own. So, now, the previously ignored 800 lb. gorilla (culpability for 9/11) reemerges.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
10. Dead men tell no tales.
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 11:31 AM
Feb 2015

Which is why they wanted with all their might to get rid of Moussaoui before too many noticed what he was saying.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
13. Regardless of what's in those pages
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 06:06 PM
Feb 2015

I just want the truth to come out. I'm tired of the BS, propaganda and absurdity.

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