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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Guardian: Fox News "literally – working for al-Qaida and Isis’s media arm"
The Guardian has posted an article about FOX New's embedding ISIS's latest snuff film, unedited on their webpage:
The extremely graphic 22-minute video shows Muadh al-Kasasbeh, a Jordanian pilot, being set on fire and burned to death in a cage. Fox News did not post the videos of the killings of previous Isis hostages, and no other media company has hosted this video.
The Guardian however, notes that ISIS supporters are quite thankful for FOX's hosting help:
And Terrorism experts seem to agree:
... These groups need a platform, and this gives them a platform, he added.
Malcolm Nance, the executive director of the Terror Asymmetrics Project on Strategy, Tactics and Radical Ideology thinktank and an expert on counter-terrorism and radical extremism told the Guardian that by posting the video Fox News was propagating exactly what Isis wants to propagate.
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(Fox News) are literally literally working for al-Qaida and Isiss media arm, he added.
They might as well start sending them royalty checks.
the rest:
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/feb/04/fox-news-shows-isis-video-jordan-pilothttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/02/05/1362462/-The-Guardian-Fox-News-literally-working-for-al-Qaida-and-Isis-s-media-arm
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)You would think the the rest of the media would be pointing this out, but they will not admit they are being trolled by ISIS and gleefully and willfully responded by giving ISIS free publicity for recruiting by endlessly repeating ISIS propaganda. For months now.
All the fucking American MSM are guilty, only Fox has no shame to stop it.
So now that the MSM has stopped how can they now point to Fox for continuing this insane free publicity, when they were and are just as guilty?
Who still says Fox is not dangerous and seditious?
Spreading propaganda of a foreign enemy....shut it down....shut Fox down from at least this.
sorefeet
(1,241 posts)TREASON
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Can you imagine if this was an American military pilot?
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)Free speech means only that the government can't prevent them from speaking. It doesn't mean they can't be held accountable.
If I were to post your name and address online saying that you were a child molester, you could sue me, and you would win because you're not and I couldn't prove you were.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)nichomachus
(12,754 posts)But people are held accountable for "speech" all the time. Give sensitive information to AlQaeda, your speech is not protected. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of lawsuits for libel and slander. People can be, and are, held accountable for speech.
world wide wally
(21,744 posts)packman
(16,296 posts)I think Fox News is working for Fox News. Those who are viewing the video are watching to either (A) confirm that Arabs are barbarians and deserve whatever they get even at the hands of other Arabs or (B) or so perverse in their thinking and outlook on life that this satisfies some deep-seated need to see another suffer. Fox is just playing to its audience. In addition, I do believe that by this time Isis may have realized that they have stepped over a line and may be regretting it every time that video is viewed.
kacekwl
(7,017 posts)group of assholes. I believe they love it every time another dim-wit watches it and knee-jerks another fear based response. Just what this group wants.
gordianot
(15,238 posts)Fox News sells perpetual fear, delusion, lies, and is more than willing to support any organization with rehashing propaganda that matches their market niche. As a purveyor of terror they are fair and balanced and are willing to promote the aims of all organizations that depend on lies, violence, and hate.
kpete
(71,996 posts)first read of the a.m.
The Guardian
I personally like the twitter feed:
https://twitter.com/guardian
mr pete goes straight to US News:
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news
sad that we can trust SO few of our own institutions to just give us some TRUTH
peace,
kp
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)no longer considers guarding democracy part of the trade off for unlimited free speech.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)greytdemocrat
(3,299 posts)I personally think it should be available to see on all networks.
I don't need someone deciding for me what I can and cannot
watch on an issue this important.
And I think the public should see what animals these scum are.
If you don't want to watch, don't.
frylock
(34,825 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)Xyzse
(8,217 posts)I am thankful for the link though.
I am tempted to send it to my mother and tweak her nose about this a bit.
But no, I'll be nice... I won't.
underpants
(182,826 posts)Peacetrain
(22,877 posts)And MSNBC has a political point of view..
But never in a million years would I have guessed that they would promote an organiztion like ISIS, by having that video on their site, that the recruiters for ISIS can then use to try and get people who are Value challenged, and embrace horror to join their organization that would put people in a cage and burn them alive.
My head spins at the implications..
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)By embedding a snuff movie of a military allies pilots torture and execution, and since it is an American site it is difficult to block, the link is to America.
Peacetrain
(22,877 posts)up call for people who refuse to look beyond Fox for anything of balance.. they have embraced ISIS and their values.. its that simple.. this has nothing to do with free speech.. this is outright bloody torturous murder
Fred Sanders
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Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Only US network to feature graphic video showing Muadh al-Kasasbeh burning to death.
Twitter accounts associated with Isis supporters are sharing video via links to Fox News.
In a statement, the network said: After careful consideration, we decided that giving readers of FoxNews.com the option to see for themselves the barbarity of ISIS outweighed legitimate concerns about the graphic nature of the video. Online users can choose to view or not view this disturbing content.
On Twitter, accounts associated with Isis supporters are sharing the video via the links to the Fox News site. One account, which regularly posts pro-Isis slogans and updates about Islamic State victories in battle, tweeted boastfully that Whoever is looking for the al-Furqan version [of the video], here it is and it CANNOT BE DELETED because it is on an American network.
Al-Furqan is Isis media outlet.
lark
(23,105 posts)This should be on the front page of every newspaper in America, but guess what, bet a lot that it isn't. It should be the lead story for every newscast, and again, bet it isn't. I don't watch MSM news or read the local fish wraps, so can't tell you for sure, but it certainly would be out of character for our rah rah Repug newspaper to print anything bad about the official water carrier for the right wing - Faux Snooze.
This goes to the heart of the matter. 9/11 was done by Saudi Arabian citizens, some directly financially supported by Saudi royals. War in the middle East benefits the oil barons and increases the need for American made munitions, so the 1%ers win big. Saudi gets to support the radicals, keeping pressure off them, and help us by keeping the fear of terrorism the driving force. It also increases terrorism to have us fighting in the middle east, to keep Palestine bereft for the benefit of the Israeli land stealers. This is all planned. Why do we fund the people that become ISIS then start a war against those self=same people? $$$$$.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Not one iota of respect for the slain man and his grieving family.
lark
(23,105 posts)That will never happen.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)Nobody in DC will talk about their good friends who finance and support most of the radical Islamic terrorism.
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Not only can online users choose to view it on Foxs website, but because the network made the video embeddable, now others sites can post it too. And thats exactly what happened on Wednesday.
"First, Glenn Becks TheBlaze embedded Foxs video along with a series of graphic still images on its website. The host echoed Baier when he wrote, I believe it is important for the world to see them. We have been lured into a poppy field where we have fallen fast asleep as grave danger quickly approaches.
Then, it popped up on Breitbart, which failed to mention the source of the video, but nonetheless used Foxs embed to share it with readers.
Breitbart News here provides the entire video of ISIS burning a Jordanian pilot alive, Brandon Darby wrote on behalf of the site. The complete evil of Islamist ideology is visible in the graphic video. Though controversial, it is the belief of senior management at Breitbart News that the horror of ISIS should be visible for national decision makers, the constituents who elect them, and the Americans who may be called upon to fight them.
And next came The Daily Caller, whose Jim Treacher posted Foxs video with the headline, If You Dont Want To Watch This Video Of ISIS Burning A Man Alive, Then Dont.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)You think Prince Alwaleed bought Murdock's empire just because he likes Fox's bleached blondes and apple-cheeked anchors?
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Cui Bono, indeed.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)and the tenth-percenters. It has one purpose - to keep the sheeple in a constant state of fear and confusion so that they can be easily led by the MIC and the tenth-percenters. It has succeeded rather extravagantly.
Doktor Goebbels must be so proud of his boy Roger Ailes.
Fnord
grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)mountain grammy
(26,623 posts)and even sicker individuals who watch it. Sick, twisted minds getting off on torture. American torture good, ISIS torture bad. Torture is torture.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)if this were in france. Fox would have been raided and shut down and they'd be facing decades behind jail
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)neverforget
(9,436 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)How many news outlets do you see using unnamed AQAP sources? And reprinting (in full, mind you) AQAP communiques?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2015/01/14/why-grant-anonymity-to-a-terrorist-jeremy-scahill-explains/
Shameless whitewashing of al-awaki:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026080775
neverforget
(9,436 posts)malaise
(269,051 posts)Never forget the Saudis are part owners of Fox
pennylane100
(3,425 posts)I hope not as that will definitely take the fun out of fox namecalling
watoos
(7,142 posts)The Saudi prince just moved his share, he still owns the same % under a different group.
libodem
(19,288 posts)nikto
(3,284 posts)A solid block of FOX talking heads (blockheads? ) are well-known Neocons (WM Kristol, Krauthammer, etc).
The link between Fox and Neocons is inescapable and iron-clad.
The Neocons and US War-industry/MIC have the same goal as ISIS----Vast WAR, involving the whole world.
Yup.
They want it for different reasons---ISIS, apparently for some insane messianic vision (they are clearly
baiting many nations, 1-at-a-time), while
the Neocons/MIC want it for for $$$$ and global dominance (Project for The New American Century, etc).
Also, war is the best way to control those troublesome dissidents (an old fascist method).
Ultimately, both ISIS and US Corporate Militarists want the same thing.
See?
You can serve 2 masters.
Petrushka
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The Wizard
(12,545 posts)is anti American. Always has been always will be, until the American people physically remove it from existence.
Murdoch and the Republican Party can afford to lose money broadcasting their harmful propaganda as it helps them keep control of the levers of power which is far more lucrative than owning a media cesspool.
Turbineguy
(37,342 posts)For oligarchs to rule, the population must be kept ignorant and terrified. Most viewers of Fux probably think ISIS will be killing people in America soon.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)I agree 100% with the expert's conclusions. On one hand, I like reporting that shows & reports everything as is--remember the US argues this to prevent the release of "torture photos" & revelations of other crimes. Fox is just trying to whip up their audience by showing shocking ISIS propaganda.
It isn't just ISIS videos. They help their recruiting by obsessing with "Islam" indentifier in the terrorist label, rampant Islamophobia -- they way they treated, Hannity, Keith Ellison was despicable.