General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHonest, serious question here re: ISIS and their tactics.
Suppose you're chased onto a mountain with your children, with no sun protection, food, or water, and a horde of murderous ideological thugs is bent on killing you and your kind, even if you accede to their conditions and demands.
Or, if that's not to your liking, suppose you've entered a war zone to use your kindness and expertise to help tend to refugees, and you get kidnapped and shoved into an orange jumpsuit. You know what comes next.
As the camera rolls and as you're reading from the script you've been handed, and as you observe a hooded person brandish a knife that will soon sever your head, how likely are you to think the following:
"You know, I'd sort of like to be saved. But then again, something roughly analogous happened 1000 years ago to some other people when the geopolitical roles were roughly opposite. Kind of makes you think that I have this coming to me, huh? And it wasn't me who put panties on an Iraqi prisoner's head and took pictures of it, but gee, it sort of feels like in this instance, not only do two wrongs make a right, but I should be made to pay for every supposed crime of Western civilization. I guess instead of valuing my own life and the lives of other innocents, I ought to be kneeling here thinking of exactly how many more of us should be beheaded or incinerated. Because when you get right down to it, we have this coming".
Not bloody likely, but that's just me.
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)If someone caused death or injury to a member of the clan, the clan had an obligation to take equal revenge on the clan that caused the injury, even if the revenge was against someone other than the person who caused the injury.
To the Creeks, it was deeper than simple revenge. It went to thier religious beliefs about maintaining balance in the world. There was an annual ceremony in which outstanding revenge debts were cancelled.
This practice was a major (but by no means the only) cause of tension between Creeks and whites. The whites practiced "blood revenge" in their own way, but it had none of the "balance" of the Creek's practice.
Practices like "blood revenge" still exist. I'm not saying they're good, but they still exist.
RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)to acknowledge and consider the historical roots of contemporary issues without justifying recent atrocities, you know.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)Posted on DU it often feels like it's coming from a RW point of view.
Posted on FR, it would probably feel like it's coming from a LW point of view.
It always imples that the poster thinks they are going against the grain.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)before they cut your fucking head off.
I sincerely hope your head, my head, and all of our heads remain intact forever. How we obtain that seems to be in dispute.
Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #5)
CJCRANE This message was self-deleted by its author.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)I agree there are a lot of people making excuses for ISIS. IMO they have no redeeming features. They are just brainwashed nutters.
eissa
(4,238 posts)I find the false equivalencies nauseating. There are communities in that region that are right now being terrorized and brutally murdered, women and children held as sex slaves, and for them to hear "but, but....the Crusades!" helps exactly no one.