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Washington Post
Published February 3, 2015
By Ishaan Tharoor
The dark side of Winston Churchills legacy no one should forget
Theres no Western statesmen at least in the English-speaking world more routinely lionized than Winston Churchill. Last week marked a half century since his funeral, an occasion that itself led to numerous commemorations and paeans to the British Bulldog, whose moral courage and patriotism helped steer his nation through World War II.
The power of his name is so great that it launches a thousand quotations, many of which are apocryphal. At its core, Churchills myth serves as a ready-made metaphor for boldness and leadership, no matter how vacuous the context in which said metaphor is deployed.
But theres another side to Churchills politics and career that should not be forgotten amid the endless parade of eulogies. To many outside the West, he remains an unvarnished racist and a stubborn imperialist, forever on the wrong side of history. Churchills detractors point to his well-documented bigotry, articulated often with shocking callousness and contempt. I hate Indians, he once trumpeted. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion. He referred to Palestinians as barbaric hordes who ate little but camel dung. When quashing insurgents in Sudan in the earlier days of his imperial career, Churchill boasted of killing three savages. Contemplating restive populations in northwest Asia, he infamously lamented the squeamishness of his colleagues, who were not in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilized tribes.
Churchills racism was wrapped up in his Tory zeal for empire, one which irked his wartime ally, US President Franklin D. Roosevelt. As a junior member of Parliament, Churchill had cheered on Britains plan for more conquests, insisting that its Aryan stock is bound to triumph.
India, Britains most important colonial possession, most animated Churchill. He despised the Indian independence movement and its spiritual leader, Mahatma Gandhi, whom he described as half-naked, seditious fakir. Most notoriously, Churchill presided over the hideous 1943 famine in Bengal, where some 3 million Indians perished, largely as a result of British imperial mismanagement. Churchill was both indifferent to the Indian plight and even mocked the millions suffering, chuckling over the culling of a population that bred like rabbits.
Leopold Amery, Churchills own Secretary of State for India, likened his boss understanding of Indias problems to King George IIIs apathy for the Americas. Amery vented in his private diaries, writing on the subject of India, Winston is not quite sane and that he didnt see much difference between (Churchills) outlook and Hitlers.
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TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)Theodore Roosevelt enjoyed killing Native Americans, Woodrow Wilson was about as racist as it gets, I remember Mother Theresa being trashed over something (probably an abortion position)...
OTOH, I heard Hitler liked kittens.
It is the sum total of a person's life that counts, and often, as in Churchill's case, an overwhelming event. Churchill was generally considered a fuckup until he happened to be the right person in the right place at the right time to be the voice of inspiration for the British people as they fought for their lives. That made up for a lot.
philosslayer
(3,076 posts)His policies may not be to everyone's liking, but he truly appears to be a good man. Perhaps the best-hearted man we've had as President.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)even around here.
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zappaman
(20,606 posts)Any other thoughts on President Obama?
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uppityperson
(115,677 posts)"we"?
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uppityperson
(115,677 posts)he wanted? That too bad "we didn't get enough Democratic votes" was because he used his mighty brain powers?
muslin, kenyan, brain powers=trifecta!
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Terra Alta
(5,158 posts)Who do you support for 2016?
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greatauntoftriplets
(175,742 posts)Terra Alta
(5,158 posts)forest444
(5,902 posts)And the writer neglected to mention his genocidal actions toward the Irish, Kurds, Kenyans, and others (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/not-his-finest-hour-the-dark-side-of-winston-churchill-2118317.html). It can even be argued, against working-class Brits themselves (http://lachlan.bluehaze.com.au/churchill/gold_standard_1925/).
It's one thing, you see, to privately struggle with pettiness and hatred. It's quite another to use one's position of power to act out on them - however much the media glosses over it after the fact (which in a way makes it even worse).
DerekG
(2,935 posts)Churchill harbored an imperial bloodlust that shocked many of his contemporaries, and this is to be distinguished from, say, FDR--who possessed an innate decency despite questionable policies (e.g., Japanese internment, saturation bombing).
Ever wonder why the British people decided to oust their great hero after WWII was won? It's because he scared the crap out of a lot of even-tempered people.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)If it wasn't for WWII, he would have gone down in history as a minor wanker. His prior Foreign Service (or whatever they call it over there) service was mediocre at best and he suffered being recalled for whatever euphemism they have for idiocy.
George Washington, btw, was in a similar predicament before the Revolution. Some say his indecision and silliness while in the British Army was a direct cause for the Iroquois Nation to change sides and go over to the French-- making it the the French and Indian War. (The Iroquois war chief was rumored to have asked "Who is this idiot they sent us?" He was stripped of rank over that one. Winning the revolution saved his ass, although many historians don't think he had much to do with winning it.
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)Yet somehow the world had the wherewithal to defeat Germany and Japan. Hm. Wonder if we should have.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)There's nothing more fun than smearing dead people. There should be an award for that, this guy might win it.
I'm sure Hitler would've been much nicer to all those groups. And without Churchill, this moral critic might very well be writing an article to that effect, in German.
Just when I think this world can't possibly get more lame, it does.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Imagine how unpleasant that would have been for any non-smokers present. I'm sure he didn't even think of setting up a special, separately ventilated room where he could go to smoke his cigars so that the second-hand smoke would not annoy his colleagues.
What an evil man.
I don't think there was such a thing as a non-smoker in those days!
denverbill
(11,489 posts)Conservatives are to a large degree racist, ethnocentric, nationalistic and imperialistic.
Half the conservatives I know today say crap similar to this regularly. His characterization of Indians was very little different from Hitler's characterization of Jews and his attitude towards using poison gas on 'uncivilized tribes' was the same attitude Mussolini had towards the Ethiopians he used it on.
Frankly, I'd never heard these quotes but I can't say they surprised me at all.
tenderfoot
(8,437 posts)How he managed to not end up in front of a firing squad over that, I'll never know.
forest444
(5,902 posts)LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)and a wealthy American socialite mother.
TimeToEvolve
(303 posts)conservatives and psychopaths are two heavily overlapping sets.
i like to think that the only reason that Churchill opposed Hitler was because he was trying to cut in on Churchill's action, which was taking over the world.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)The whole world heaved a huge sigh of relief when that megalomaniac left office in 1955.
forest444
(5,902 posts)And Eisenhower did too, at least when Churchill's protégé Anthony Eden left office in disgrace after the Suez Crisis.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)who referred to Native Americans as "savages who delight in cruelty for cruelty's sake" and wrote approvingly of Houston Stewart Chamberlain's "Foundations of the Nineteenth Century" (a book that was tremendously influential on Hitler and Nazi ideas about race). He was also supportive of theories of eugenics (he wrote that "society has no business permitting degenerates to reproduce" , believed in the racial superiority of the "Anglo-Saxons", and was an unquestionable imperialist (he was one of the people agitating for war with Spain as assistant secretary of the Navy).
forest444
(5,902 posts)Teddy Roosevelt pursued a progressive agenda, passing the nation's first real labor laws, environmental laws, product safety and financial regulations, and anti-trust/monopoly laws. The economy and living standards both grew to record levels, and both the elite and the general population benefited.
Churchill quashed labor rights and reimposed the Gold Standard knowing full well it would benefit his social class at the expense of just about everyone else, who would have to live with sharp restrictions on currency, credit, and trade competitiveness. The British economy consequently spent most of the 1920s in recession, and actually grew much more in the 1930s (after his policies were reversed) than in the '20s.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)I guess the point you are making is that bad aspects of a person can be counteracted by good things that they do. Like, I don't know, saving the world, would be one example.
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Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)ARMYofONE
(69 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Lincoln was perfectly willing to retain slavery if it preserved the union. FDR interned Japanese-Americans.
Not many people were saints. Even Mother Theresa has her critics.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)She actually allowed people to suffer needlessly when she could have helped alleviate their suffering, believing that suffering was a gift from god. Of course, when she was ill she repaired to only the best California clinics. Don't get me started.
JI7
(89,252 posts)And the way they treated them.
cpwm17
(3,829 posts)but since he massacred and oppressed dark-skinned Third Worlders, many don't care or make excuses.
Plus he was theatrical, English, and blue-blooded - which in the eyes of many (especially right-wingers) is akin to Sainthood.
malaise
(269,054 posts)by a distance
forest444
(5,902 posts)is incontrovertible.
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cwydro
(51,308 posts)Seriously?
sibelian
(7,804 posts)Loads of people in Britain hated him. You just don't hear their side of the story, that's all.
My upstairs neighbour worked in munitions during WWII. She called him "fatty".
Pretty useful guy, but an arsehole.
forest444
(5,902 posts)"The best argument against democracy," he famously said "is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)forest444
(5,902 posts)which is the first part of the aphorism. That is, that "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."
I should add that deeds make men great, not theatrics. Churchill was heavy on the latter, but his record on the former left much to be desired. The ruinous Gold Standard, his genocidal policies toward the Irish and the colonies, his forcing FDR to delay the Invasion of Normandy for over a year in the hope Hitler could take out the Soviet Union first, and the Suez Crisis - all testament to how much hype can make up for bad faith.
Great motivational speaker, I'll give him that.
seveneyes
(4,631 posts)Change is a result of time. Cheating to solve for time is harder than living in it.