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eridani

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Sat Feb 7, 2015, 04:48 AM Feb 2015

Juan Cole: Brian Williams Affair: Reagan and Bush Lied About Military Records but Get a Pass

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/28462-brian-williams-affair-reagan-and-bush-lied-about-military-records-but-get-a-pass

Williams’ critics accuse him of just making stuff up, and for all I know he did. But we all know that stories grow in the telling, and it isn’t impossible that over time Williams’ memory played tricks on him. If his helicopter did in fact take some light arms fire, as a soldier present on it alleges, that is a kernel of experience for Williams’s later faulty memory. It is also suggested that the story of what happened to the lead Chinook was broadcast inside Williams’s own helicopter and that he may have lived it vicariously and then over time inserted himself into the story.

In any case, those who haven’t risked their lives in a war zone (which is what Williams did) maybe shouldn’t be so glib in condemning someone who did. His story is false; the danger was real. The anger and feeling of betrayal of the military personnel on the helicopter that was hit, on the other hand, is understandable, though at least one of them says he is ready to move on.

Many of Williams’s fiercest critics are conservatives, for whom network television news is a liberal conspiracy– a charge that is wholly unfair and untrue (otherwise we on the left wouldn’t risk a stroke every time we watch it). Worse, many of them think that Fox Cable News really is fair and balanced.

The same conservatives, however, go on idolizing Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush, both of whom much more egregiously made stuff up about their military service than Williams (who never claimed to be more than a hapless civilian).
The same voices that allege that Williams has been deprived of credibility by the incidents would never dream of impugning the credibility of the lying GOP presidents.

Ronald Reagan told visiting Israeli premier Yitzhak Shamir in fall of 1983 that he had helped liberate the Auschwitz concentration camp as a soldier in the European theater and had taken footage of the horrors of the camp. Later, he said, when family members questioned him as to whether those horrors had really occurred, he showed them the footage he had captured. He also told a version of this story to Simon Wiesenthal. Dan Meridor confirmed to journalist Lou Cannon that Reagan had made these assertions, and said that Shamir relayed them to the Israeli cabinet to demonstrate Reagan’s sympathy for the Jewish people.
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Juan Cole: Brian Williams Affair: Reagan and Bush Lied About Military Records but Get a Pass (Original Post) eridani Feb 2015 OP
This is why the Brian Williams' affair is important because Ichingcarpenter Feb 2015 #1
Wow. Cole is more off base than usual. merrily Feb 2015 #2

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
1. This is why the Brian Williams' affair is important because
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 05:03 AM
Feb 2015

it brings up the public discussion of all the lies of the Iraqi war which would not have happened without Brian's folly.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
2. Wow. Cole is more off base than usual.
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 05:08 AM
Feb 2015

Last edited Sat Feb 7, 2015, 05:45 AM - Edit history (1)

Reagan and Bush were politicians with eyes on the Oval Office. Williams is a news anchor.

And, assuming Reagan and Bush did actually tell bald faced lies about their own experiences, they did not get away with it. They were exposed and ridiculed for it and history recorded it. But, let's assume they did get away with it. Does their supposedly getting away with it mean that veryone, including newsmen, should also get away with it? Or does it mean that America should start somewhere, holding media and politicians accountable for their lies?

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