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RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 09:17 AM Feb 2015

Enhanced Misinformation Techniques

Torture supporters outnumbered opponents 2-to-1 on major news shows.
2/2/15



When the Senate released its shocking report on CIA torture late last year, it renewed a debate from the Bush years about the merits of so-called “enhanced interrogation techniques.”

Polls released afterward suggested that most Americans thought that torture was effective and, in some cases, justified. Yet the report was very clear: Torture produced virtually no valuable intelligence.

So why did so many people get the wrong idea? One possible explanation is that they heard it over and over again on TV.

In a new study, Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting found that major news programs interviewed twice as many torture defenders as torture critics in their coverage of the Senate’s report...

http://fpif.org/enhanced-misinformation-techniques/

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Enhanced Misinformation Techniques (Original Post) RiverLover Feb 2015 OP
We live in a vile, dishonest, magnificently funded propaganda state, woo me with science Feb 2015 #1
Thanks woo. And the misinformation in corporate media on the merits of the TPP RiverLover Feb 2015 #3
Drives me up the wall Android3.14 Feb 2015 #7
The American mass media criminally abuses folks that have been lulled into trusting them absolutely. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #13
We sure do, and it's backed up by 100 years of Bernays-type psychological Nay Feb 2015 #22
barret brown was just sentenced for his part in disclosing the goverment questionseverything Feb 2015 #28
^^^^^^^^^Important, important post^^^^^^^^ woo me with science Feb 2015 #30
Sending a LOUD message to journalists who even THINK about investigating & exposing govt corruption RiverLover Feb 2015 #31
PLUS ONE, a whole bunch! Enthusiast Feb 2015 #29
If I may, RiverLover.....I find your posts very interesting. merrily Feb 2015 #2
Thanks merrily RiverLover Feb 2015 #4
You're welcome and thank you. merrily Feb 2015 #12
"depict as mad" Android3.14 Feb 2015 #5
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whom_the_gods_would_destroy merrily Feb 2015 #10
Thank you Android3.14 Feb 2015 #17
You're welcome. merrily Feb 2015 #18
"Far more dangerous to us than the skeptics and cynics, IMO, are the unconditional apologists." Scuba Feb 2015 #6
Effin A, Scuba, effin A Android3.14 Feb 2015 #8
And the ones on the TV that did oppose it did so on it's effectiveness. zeemike Feb 2015 #9
Major news shows are major league apoligizers, and deflectors of truth. They ARE the problem. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #11
The lying, complicit messengers are part of the problem, but only part. merrily Feb 2015 #20
Best Post Headline Ever! tech3149 Feb 2015 #14
And this is why we treasure those few independent, investigative journalists RiverLover Feb 2015 #16
Americans lead a deeply visceral existence salib Feb 2015 #15
oh, it's even subtler than that: it's maximum emotion with minimum connection MisterP Feb 2015 #27
Jack Ryan obxhead Feb 2015 #19
Almost every tv show is a cop show BubbaFett Feb 2015 #21
It's completely obvious once you turn off the television for good. hunter Feb 2015 #23
Pervasive propoganda flying all the time. JEB Feb 2015 #24
Fox News AKA Brainwashing works! nt valerief Feb 2015 #25
And yet, right here on DU, we have people defending serial liar and propagandist Brian Williams tularetom Feb 2015 #26
K&R!!!! Sadly accurate. Such a damn shame nt riderinthestorm Feb 2015 #32
kick woo me with science Feb 2015 #33

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
1. We live in a vile, dishonest, magnificently funded propaganda state,
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 09:24 AM
Feb 2015

down to the pollution of discussion boards on the internet.

Excellent OP. Thanks.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
3. Thanks woo. And the misinformation in corporate media on the merits of the TPP
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 09:36 AM
Feb 2015

is only just beginning.

I guess we should be thankful? corporate media broadcasted a total of 154 minutes of Climate Change news in 2014. That's total coverage for the year by ABC, CBS, NBC, and Fox.

They are disgraceful. And Americans are easily manipulated by them.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
7. Drives me up the wall
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 09:46 AM
Feb 2015

I've seen it more and more. At least with a billboard you knew it was propaganda, but now it has become all subterfuge.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
13. The American mass media criminally abuses folks that have been lulled into trusting them absolutely.
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 10:15 AM
Feb 2015

Q:What does Brian Williams do for 10 million a year?

A:Be the pretty face and gravely voice of Blind Trust.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
22. We sure do, and it's backed up by 100 years of Bernays-type psychological
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 11:29 AM
Feb 2015

research into the most effective ways to manipulate people. They've got the methods down pat, folks, and they're using them on us every day. And not just to sell us Jello.

questionseverything

(9,657 posts)
28. barret brown was just sentenced for his part in disclosing the goverment
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 03:05 PM
Feb 2015

sponsorship of the "propaganda" state

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the hacks that confirmed sock puppets were used on the net to sway opinion......some of the programs made it possible for one person to control and present up to 100 personas

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hat tip to oct...

Octafish (43,923 posts)
8. Why you should care about journalist Barrett Brown's sentencing today

By Barry Eisler, Opinion, Dec 16, 2014

EXCERPT...

In 2009, Barrett founded Project PM, “dedicated to investigating private government contractors working in the secretive fields of cybersecurity, intelligence, and surveillance.” He was particularly instrumental in using documents obtained by the hacktivist collective Anonymous to expose secret collaboration between the government and various contractors. The covert factions Barrett’s work threatened are powerful, and fought back. Two years ago, Barrett was arrested and threatened with 100 years in prison—yes, you read that correctly—allegedly for threatening an FBI agent, concealing evidence, and linking to a website that contained stolen credit card numbers. The allegations themselves are sufficiently preposterous, and the threatened sentence sufficiently draconian, to make it clear that Barrett, like William Binney, Thomas Drake, Daniel Ellsberg, Jeremy Hammond, Jon Kiriakou, Chelsea Manning, Jesselyn Radack, Edward Snowden, Aaron Swartz, Thomas Tamm, and many others, is in fact being persecuted as an example to anyone else who would dare challenge America’s Deep State.

CONTINUED...

http://boingboing.net/2014/12/16/opinion-why-you-should-care-a.html

In this case, I'm surprised by how many side with the FBI over the First Amendment.
"The heart grows stronger by facing the evils of the world." -- Ludwig van Beethoven

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
31. Sending a LOUD message to journalists who even THINK about investigating & exposing govt corruption
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 05:40 PM
Feb 2015

& spying. Thanks for posting.

And thanks to Barrett Brown for his sacrifice. May it not be in vain.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
2. If I may, RiverLover.....I find your posts very interesting.
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 09:24 AM
Feb 2015

It's also very interesting to me that, a few days ago, DUers were debating the merits of mistrusting government and media.

Pseudo skepticism, paranoia, loopy conspiracy theories, etc.

Whom the PTB would destroy, they first depict as mad. (with apologies to Henry Wadsworth Longfellow).

Far more dangerous to us than the skeptics and cynics, IMO, are the unconditional apologists.


*Speaking of terminology, calling torture "enhanced interrogation" was itself an enhanced misinformation technique. People recoil from the word "torture" and the images it elicits, but who doesn't love enhancements of all kinds? "You came up with better ways to interrogate suspected terrorists, did ya? Cool!"

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
5. "depict as mad"
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 09:41 AM
Feb 2015

You are referencing a Longfellow quote, it seems. I am related to HWL, and would be curious what quote you are referencing.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
10. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whom_the_gods_would_destroy
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 10:09 AM
Feb 2015

Apologies being due, of course, because I paraphrased.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
6. "Far more dangerous to us than the skeptics and cynics, IMO, are the unconditional apologists."
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 09:43 AM
Feb 2015

Ain't that the truth?

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
8. Effin A, Scuba, effin A
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 09:49 AM
Feb 2015

And the sad part is that, once the paid shills shovel the shit out there, we have people that just eat it up like crack cocaine for the soul.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
9. And the ones on the TV that did oppose it did so on it's effectiveness.
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 10:01 AM
Feb 2015

Not on the moral grounds that it is wrong morally.
Because they can argue effectiveness but not the morality of it.
That is how the misinformation works...control the argument.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
16. And this is why we treasure those few independent, investigative journalists
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 10:58 AM
Feb 2015

as opposed to those "reputable" mass manipulators aka Broadcast News.

I don't know how we can change the paradigm though, when journalists are being spied on & threatened, & their sources are being jailed.

salib

(2,116 posts)
15. Americans lead a deeply visceral existence
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 10:44 AM
Feb 2015

Making it all to common for us to come to keenly emotional but simpleton inspired conclusions.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
27. oh, it's even subtler than that: it's maximum emotion with minimum connection
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 02:55 PM
Feb 2015

the goal is to generate *unrooted, uncoupled* but intense reactivity, an unearned emotion, an addictive but hollow agitation that keeps the carousel spinning

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
19. Jack Ryan
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 11:20 AM
Feb 2015

Fictional TV dramas and false news.

This is why people are so gullible.

Hero's torture the terrorist then go save the day with a drone.

 

BubbaFett

(361 posts)
21. Almost every tv show is a cop show
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 11:26 AM
Feb 2015

that portrays the police as intelligent, working in digital palaces (taxpayer funded?).

The funny part is that cops are some of the dumbest people on earth and their workplaces often resemble sewers without wall sized flat panel touchscreens.

If you don't see it yourself or hear it in your neighborhood, it's probably propaganda.

The best way to reclaim your mind is to banish television from your world.

hunter

(38,322 posts)
23. It's completely obvious once you turn off the television for good.
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 11:53 AM
Feb 2015

My television is strictly a movie player, and has been for a couple of years now.

Broadcast, cable or satellite television, it's entirely unwatchable to me.

Television "news" is especially horrible, it's raw propaganda on all the networks, and the advertising is over-the-top obnoxious and irritating.

We used to laugh about "news" as it was presented in the Soviet Union.

But the owners of U.S.A. mass media have turned television propaganda and deception into a precise science. Even the "entertainment," the sports, the sitcoms, the police dramas, etc., are infused with the propaganda of the oligarchy.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
26. And yet, right here on DU, we have people defending serial liar and propagandist Brian Williams
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 12:26 PM
Feb 2015

by saying he isn't as bad as Fox. Well, yes he is, he's every bit as bad as Fox, he's just smoother and more subtle about it. He works for Comcast, widely acknowledged to be the worst corporation in America for customer service. He's not going to tell you anything Comcast doesn't want you to hear.

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