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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 09:56 AM Feb 2015

Ronald Reagan’s wartime lies: The president had quite a Brian Williams problem

Reagan spent WW II in Hollywood. He told the Israeli prime minister he was at the liberation of Nazi death camps

LUKE BRINKER


When it emerged that NBC News anchor Brian Williams had misled the public for years with a harrowing account of coming under enemy fire on a military helicopter during the 2003 invasion of Iraq, observers were quick to draw comparisons with other public figures caught telling tall tales about combat experiences. Some hearkened back to Hillary Clinton’s bogus 2008 assertion that she had landed “under sniper fire” during a trip to Bosnia a dozen years earlier; in reality, video from the trip showed a smiling Clinton and her daughter walking calmly on the tarmac, with no sign of trouble whatsoever.

There’s another figure who merits mention in this discussion, one whose serial blurring of lines between fiction and reality was a mainstay of his public career. That figure, of course, was Ronald Reagan.

Reagan’s fibs were manifold. They included his campaign-trail tale of a “Chicago welfare queen” with 80 aliases, 30 addresses, and 12 Social Security cards, whom he alleged had claimed “over $150,000? in government benefits. The woman whom Reagan made infamous was convicted of using only two aliases, used to collect $8,000.

Once in office, Reagan’s deception in the Iran-Contra scandal briefly threatened his presidency. First, Reagan flatly denied wrongdoing, publicly declaring, “We did not — repeat, did not — trade weapons or anything else for hostages, nor will we.” Months later, when subsequent revelations rendered that assertion untenable, Reagan delivered an Oval Office address in which he tried to reconcile his public claims with the factual record. “A few months ago, I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages,” Reagan said. “My heart and my best intentions still tell me that’s true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not.”

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http://www.salon.com/2015/02/07/ronald_reagans_wartime_lies_the_president_had_quite_a_brian_williams_problem/
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Ronald Reagan’s wartime lies: The president had quite a Brian Williams problem (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2015 OP
I'm disappointed with BW madokie Feb 2015 #1
That was the beginning of the alternate reality LuvNewcastle Feb 2015 #2
Yep "truthiness" and The Big Lie underpants Feb 2015 #4
Tail gunner 1Greensix Feb 2015 #3
Student of the gladium et scutum Feb 2015 #6
Reagan lied about everything, all the time. Here is a quote from Reagan in 1985 about South Africa Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #5
Blasphemy! MFrohike Feb 2015 #7

madokie

(51,076 posts)
1. I'm disappointed with BW
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 10:01 AM
Feb 2015

he was the only one of the tv news readers who I could stomach, not sure I can do that anymore though

LuvNewcastle

(16,847 posts)
2. That was the beginning of the alternate reality
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 10:13 AM
Feb 2015

the Republicans have built. They found out something interesting back then. If you say something often enough and loud enough, it will become reality, or at least it will for a lot of Americans. The lack of critical thinking in this country is going to kill us, I'm afraid.

underpants

(182,861 posts)
4. Yep "truthiness" and The Big Lie
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 11:09 AM
Feb 2015

“My heart and my best intentions still tell me that’s true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not.”



“If you tell the same story five times, it’s true,” he said.

1Greensix

(111 posts)
3. Tail gunner
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 10:27 AM
Feb 2015

Reagan told numerous people that he was a B17 tail gunner in WWII. Another total fabrication. He spent the war in Hollywood making movies and money while others died, just like Dick Cheney. Both had better things to do.

gladium et scutum

(808 posts)
6. Student of the
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 07:53 PM
Feb 2015

fabrications of the Reagan years. Never heard this before. Can you provide me links to those claims?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
5. Reagan lied about everything, all the time. Here is a quote from Reagan in 1985 about South Africa
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 11:48 AM
Feb 2015

which practiced apartheid until 1994 : “They have eliminated the segregation that we once had in our own country — the type of thing where hotels and restaurants and places of entertainment and so forth were segregated — that has all been eliminated.”
http://www.salon.com/2011/02/05/ronald_reagan_apartheid_south_africa/

Here is a wiki about 1986 in South Africa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986_in_South_Africa

MFrohike

(1,980 posts)
7. Blasphemy!
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 07:56 PM
Feb 2015

We all know Saint Ronnie was the second coming of George Washington! You're just trying to distract us with your so-called "facts"!

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