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Tanuki

(14,920 posts)
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 10:48 AM Feb 2015

No more National Parks?

http://act.credoaction.com/sign/reject_republican_parks_bill?t=3&akid=12986.6387812.xYeZ-y

"For more than 100 years, the Antiquities Act has allowed presidents to use their executive authority to protect America’s public lands by designating national monuments. It’s why we have national treasures like the Grand Canyon National Park in Arizona and Chimney Rock National Monument in Colorado.

It’s a presidential privilege that has literally shaped America’s landscape and its history, but Republicans in Congress now think it’s time to end all of that.

Last month, Republican Congressman Rep. Don Young introduced a bill that would strip the President of this authority. The MAST Act would overhaul the Antiquities Act, requiring any presidential designations to go through a crippling process of congressional approval making it nearly impossible for presidents to designate new national monuments . It’s a cynical attempt to forever block the President’s ability to protect lands from drilling and mining companies that want to exploit these lands for profit.

The way the law works now, presidents can quickly set aside public lands for protection and conservation through proclamations, instead of going through the more complicated Congressional process of creating a National Park. In fact, it’s often the first step to creating a National Park – the Grand Canyon was first designated a monument under the Antiquities Act by Theodore Roosevelt.

Here’s what’s really ironic: Rep. Don Young, the sponsor of the bill, features a photo of Denali National Park and Preserve, which was originally declared a monument under the Antiquities Act in 1978, as the background on his own congressional website.

Protecting the Antiquities Act and stopping this bill isn’t just about safeguarding America’s environment and historical heritage – it’s also an economic issue. National Monuments generate tourism and economic activity in places that wouldn’t receive it otherwise.

If we don’t stop the MAST Act, it could be a big win for the Republican Congress’s right-wing agenda. We can’t allow that to happen.

Thank you for your activism."

(You can sign a petition at the link)
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No more National Parks? (Original Post) Tanuki Feb 2015 OP
Thank you for posting this Tanuki!! RiverLover Feb 2015 #1
Even George Bush recognized the importance of this! Tanuki Feb 2015 #2
All 3 County Commissioners AND the US Rep want it all locally owned and controlled duhneece Feb 2015 #23
The repubs must be listening to the devil on their shoulders.... snappyturtle Feb 2015 #3
Which one? BeanMusical Feb 2015 #21
True! nt snappyturtle Feb 2015 #22
And in other, unmentioned locations, as well NBachers Feb 2015 #26
It must itch as hell! BeanMusical Feb 2015 #36
Wonder if they have set a date for the land auction yet? jwirr Feb 2015 #4
Since 1980 per the Koch Libertarian platform. The wealthy need more land, wilderness is the best. freshwest Feb 2015 #17
I think we may luck out here in MN - most of our forest lands are STATE forests. However I don't jwirr Feb 2015 #24
State or federal, no matter. They want it. NOW. The last frontier for them to build a fiefdom. freshwest Feb 2015 #37
K&R handmade34 Feb 2015 #5
This same bill was submitted in 2013 as well. Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2015 #6
Why, because people were made aware that the bill was submitted SalviaBlue Feb 2015 #7
No, I believe it's because no one supported it. Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2015 #10
"No one supported it"? Actually, a similar bill passed 221-201 in the House last year Tanuki Feb 2015 #12
Good thing the president can veto GummyBearz Feb 2015 #16
You are not suggesting that if the media doesn't report on it then it is a fringe issue are you? SalviaBlue Feb 2015 #18
Important point. n/t cui bono Feb 2015 #20
No. Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2015 #32
K&R... thanks for making us aware of this! SalviaBlue Feb 2015 #8
Doesn't the president still have the option to veto? ybbor Feb 2015 #9
Yes but the right has an excellent reason to waste time writing this trash Rose Siding Feb 2015 #30
Eventually we will have a Republican president who won't want to veto this. Tanuki Feb 2015 #33
TR is going to rise out of his grave . . . Brigid Feb 2015 #11
Leave it to dumbass Don. raven mad Feb 2015 #13
K&R (OT - cool user name ! :^) ) eppur_se_muova Feb 2015 #14
What the heck is a tanuki? 8 things you didn't know about raccoon dogs yuiyoshida Feb 2015 #15
K and R etherealtruth Feb 2015 #19
There were people who seriously wanted to dam the Grand Canyon to make it a lake.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2015 #25
Yeah well Teddy Roosevelt rjsquirrel Feb 2015 #29
As soon as they got those rights some uranium mining company tried to kick them off their land. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2015 #34
14 Defining Characteristics Of Fascism blkmusclmachine Feb 2015 #27
Isn't it ironic gadjitfreek Feb 2015 #28
Yes! RiverLover Feb 2015 #31
I finally figured out the ONLY thing they want to conserve.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2015 #35

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
1. Thank you for posting this Tanuki!!
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 11:07 AM
Feb 2015

100000000 Recs

Going now to sign that petition & I hope MANY others do too. Its hard to believe something like this would pass into law, but its a crazy world now where things like making "Made in the USA" labeling illegal(in the TPP) and deregulating Wall Street again after a MAJOR economic meltdown caused by lack of regulation are getting passed.

Tanuki

(14,920 posts)
2. Even George Bush recognized the importance of this!
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 12:02 PM
Feb 2015

In one of the few things he ever did that I would applaud, he designated the 140,000 square mile Papahānaumokuāke (Northwestern Hawaiian Islands) Marine National Monument:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papah%C4%81naumoku%C4%81kea_Marine_National_Monument

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duhneece

(4,116 posts)
23. All 3 County Commissioners AND the US Rep want it all locally owned and controlled
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 10:22 PM
Feb 2015

...or owned by the state. The energy companies found 3 days worth of natural gas, maybe some oil, a bunch of Bundy-type ranchers who sweat the public land they've grazed on for years is now theirs.
There are a bunch of these crazies, from 14 stated and they are organized. We need to be vigilant.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
17. Since 1980 per the Koch Libertarian platform. The wealthy need more land, wilderness is the best.
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 05:02 PM
Feb 2015

It happened during the Bush administration, with the help of 'green NGOs' in my state. Hit all the right liberal buttons, too.

It was a land swap to unite an area of mountains, forest and waterfalls that were patchworked with private parcels between park parcels. It was going to create another park, but that didn't really happen in any meaningful way.

What did happen was that the land was all privatized and sold off to extremely wealthy people as part of 'preserves' that required a several millions per piece to build huge homes and look down into the valley. They had nothing to do with the communities nearby, nor did they show any responsibility. They didn't interact with them in any way.

The local seats of power moved from the majority of residents to those living in these lovely 'preserves' who didn't do a thing when their clear cutting flooded those below. The people in the valley lost police services, medical and community centers. It was all abetted by radio and print media along with conservative officials and churches, to support the idea that those who had benefited from mass transportation, local parks and subsidized housing and services, were all moochers who should be shoved out the door.

That included long-tme local businesses and housing that was privately owned but no longer up to millionaire standards. There were a lot of other things done at that same time and in each case the population that fought back were simply run over.

And so it goes.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
24. I think we may luck out here in MN - most of our forest lands are STATE forests. However I don't
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 11:55 PM
Feb 2015

know what is under those lands. I know they have tested.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
37. State or federal, no matter. They want it. NOW. The last frontier for them to build a fiefdom.
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 05:42 PM
Feb 2015

Keep on top of elections for Land Commissioners and agencies that decide the use of land or resources. A nice PR campaign like we had here to sway the masses, and it's a done deal, painted to look like a great thing, like all grand thefts. They'll call it a 'reform' which is a big lie. More like 'deform.'

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
10. No, I believe it's because no one supported it.
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 01:27 PM
Feb 2015

It wasn't major news. Matter of fact, doing a google search for "MAST Act" will net you links to the texts of both bills, and zero news reports on it.

Fringe bills get submitted ALL the time. Most don't make it very far.

Tanuki

(14,920 posts)
12. "No one supported it"? Actually, a similar bill passed 221-201 in the House last year
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 02:40 PM
Feb 2015

but was defeated in the Senate. Now that the Republicans control both chambers, all bets are off. I would not dismiss anything as "fringe" in the current political environment.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/05/26/1302062/-As-Obama-designates-his-11th-National-Monument-Republicans-seek-to-strip-away-his-power-to-do-more#

SalviaBlue

(2,917 posts)
18. You are not suggesting that if the media doesn't report on it then it is a fringe issue are you?
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 06:02 PM
Feb 2015

That would be a ridiculous assertion.

If the media doesn't report something its is usually because their corporate owners don't want you to know.

So.... Its good we have OP's that educate us what GOP, Inc. is up to.

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
30. Yes but the right has an excellent reason to waste time writing this trash
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 09:22 AM
Feb 2015

They're fundraising on our dime. They've hung out a free ad ensuring support from oil and mining interests, all the Bundy types and who knows what other anti-society nutters.

Tanuki

(14,920 posts)
33. Eventually we will have a Republican president who won't want to veto this.
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 10:59 AM
Feb 2015

It will be proposed again if it fails this year. This has pretty much flown under the radar, with minimal press coverage, and one poster above suggested that this wasn't anything to be concerned about because apparently if it was, the mainstream media would be all over it. I wish more people knew about it now and would hold their representatives accountable.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
25. There were people who seriously wanted to dam the Grand Canyon to make it a lake....
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 04:24 AM
Feb 2015

Hell, there still are.

They also want to use it for hydroelectric power like Hoover Dam on steroids.

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
29. Yeah well Teddy Roosevelt
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 09:17 AM
Feb 2015

kicked the Havasupai off their traditional lands to make it pristine enough to be a national team ark.

They just won back their land rights a few years ago.

So I'm sort on the fuck Teddy Roosevelt bus.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
27. 14 Defining Characteristics Of Fascism
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 06:39 AM
Feb 2015

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.



http://www.rense.com/general37/char.htm

gadjitfreek

(399 posts)
28. Isn't it ironic
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 09:02 AM
Feb 2015

That these people are called "conservatives"? The only thing they want to conserve is their right to exploit for profit, whether it is the commons or human beings.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
31. Yes!
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 09:30 AM
Feb 2015

I cringe every time I have to refer to them, in either party, as "conserv atives". They're against conservation, whether it be our planet or regulations that protect us like Glass-Steagal.


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