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redgreenandblue

(2,088 posts) Sat Feb 7, 2015, 01:42 PM Feb 2015

Here is what I think should be done concerning ISIS, Boko Haram, and other horrible groups:

The USA should formally recognize the International Criminal Court and pledge to fully submit to it. Then pressure all its client states (Israel comes to mind) to do the same. If after this the ICC then chooses to press charges against leaders of ISIS, Boko Haram etc., I will not object to the use of force under such circumstances.

Until the day the USA formally recognizes the ICC and submits to it, I will view any military efforts of the USA outside of its borders as agenda driven and self-serving.

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Here is what I think should be done concerning ISIS, Boko Haram, and other horrible groups: (Original Post) redgreenandblue Feb 2015 OP

So you want to give sharp_stick Feb 2015 #1

Fortunately you will never be in a position to make such absurd decisions Lurks Often Feb 2015 #2

with the TPP international corporations will serve as courts of final arbitration. msongs Feb 2015 #5

Wasn't it supposed to be aliens or the Illuminati? Lurks Often Feb 2015 #6

The US needs to ratify the Rome Statute, as does Israel, both are signatories that have not ratified Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #3

Great suggestion!! Yes, ICC should be above nations, because it is about nations violating INTL law on point Feb 2015 #4

That's not what I said at all. Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #8

reply posted at wrong level. not direct reply to you, but higher up posts. sorry on point Feb 2015 #9

Had we been members of the ICC back in early 2003, Bush and Cheney would never have KingCharlemagne Feb 2015 #7

kick. redgreenandblue Feb 2015 #10

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)

1. So you want to give

Reply to redgreenandblue (Original post)

Sat Feb 7, 2015, 01:52 PM

Feb 2015

the ICC a position above all National courts?

There isn't a country in the world that will submit to the ICC as a supreme court.

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)

2. Fortunately you will never be in a position to make such absurd decisions

Reply to redgreenandblue (Original post)

Sat Feb 7, 2015, 02:08 PM

Feb 2015

No U.S. President or Congress will EVER allow the trial of American politicians by a foreign court for the actions they take in their official position.

msongs

(67,432 posts)

5. with the TPP international corporations will serve as courts of final arbitration.

Reply to Lurks Often (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 7, 2015, 02:38 PM

Feb 2015

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)

6. Wasn't it supposed to be aliens or the Illuminati?

Reply to msongs (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 7, 2015, 04:13 PM

Feb 2015

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)

3. The US needs to ratify the Rome Statute, as does Israel, both are signatories that have not ratified

Reply to redgreenandblue (Original post)

Sat Feb 7, 2015, 02:09 PM

Feb 2015

On the other hand, 42 UN members or observers have neither signed nor ratified the Rome Statute and these include the Vatican, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Pakistan, Turkey, China, Lebanon, Brunei, India.....all of these and more have never even signed on to the idea, much less ratified.
Might as well mention that.

on point

(2,506 posts)

4. Great suggestion!! Yes, ICC should be above nations, because it is about nations violating INTL law

Reply to Bluenorthwest (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 7, 2015, 02:26 PM

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Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)

8. That's not what I said at all.

Reply to on point (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 7, 2015, 04:32 PM

Feb 2015

Yawn.

on point

(2,506 posts)

9. reply posted at wrong level. not direct reply to you, but higher up posts. sorry

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Sat Feb 7, 2015, 07:05 PM

Feb 2015

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)

7. Had we been members of the ICC back in early 2003, Bush and Cheney would never have

Reply to redgreenandblue (Original post)

Sat Feb 7, 2015, 04:25 PM

Feb 2015

committed the supreme crime against the peace of invading and occupying Iraq, because each would have had to worry that he could become subject to ICC jurisdiction for war crimes and crimes against humanity.

IIRC, Bush prevented our joining the ICC in the spring or summer of 2001, mighty convenient as subsequent events demonstrated. Not CT exactly, save that the first thing one has to do if one is preparing to commit war crimes is to make sure that the relevant governing authorities lack jurisdiction.

redgreenandblue

(2,088 posts)

10. kick.

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Sun Feb 8, 2015, 05:32 AM

Feb 2015

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