Jeb Bush is going to sound exactly like a real Conservative. Because he is one.
Hillary is going to have trouble sounding like a real liberal or Progressive. Because she is not one.
It seems to me that the Third Way thinks being a DINO and centrist and corporate will sway GOP voters to vote Dem.
No, it will not. It will not really inspire anyone to vote any differently than they would have.
Plus, the GOP will be fired up at the chance to re-take the White House.

might even make prigressive voters turn way from poll stations. And turnout benefits mostly to GOP.

Most Democrats disagree with you both!

"Poor poor Democrats are sooo stupid right?" Is that your position?

a little bit. The truth might be bitter. .. but for the sake of real progressism it will work for the good.

think the Bushes and Clinton's talk about on the long weekends they spend together? The two families are political machines and with Wall Street money they will be in power in 2016. We already see the Clinton's son in law with his own hedge fund and the Bush grand kids in politics.

I don't like what I see.

No wonder why Bill had sooo nice thing to say in 2004 durung his Book tour re. Bush's Iraq invasion policy.... while "supporting " then -nominee John Kerry...with another thing in mind: Hillary Clinton 2008.

...you have to get people to vote for you. The rest, like your diatribe about Clinton's self-interest, may well be true and important to keep in mind, but it's not the stuff that will defeat her. The ONLY thing that will defeat Clinton is a candidate who convinces the majority of voters to vote for them on election day; whether that comes from name recognition, power-broking, media-hogging, money, or whatever. Clinton understood this; so did Obama. Until you find a candidate to support, and until that candidate finds a way to appeal to the majority of voters, Clinton (or someone else who understands the basic rule for getting elected) will gain valuable ground.

Spend your time promoting your candidate and leave this worthless, weak grousing to losers and republican scum.

Btw, I'm hoping (for whatever that's worth) that we get a progressive candidate to the point where they can win the primaries.

Of course, much of that belief is the "looking in the mirror" effect but they consistently proclaim that Democrats are after power and money rather than the good of the middle class and workers.

They're the reason we have "centrist" Democrats supposedly to the LEFT of rethugs, while regular Democrats are "Left wing" dems. Hijackers.

This load of crap deserves to be unrecd down the porcelain bowl.

K&R

in the Media. ,,,,, all the Papa Paul Roosters start crowing!