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Why Is Mitt Romney So Incredibly Weird?Everything you need to know about Willard Mitt Romney. An excerpt from Salon's new e-book, "The Rude Guide to Mitt"
By Alex Pareen
April 24, 2012
Mitt Romney is weird. When the Obama reelection campaign early in the cycle made the mistake of indicating that its strategy would be to imply that Mitt Romney is weird by repeatedly telling Politico that it planned on calling Mitt Romney weird, Romneys camp countered by causing a brief and not particularly sincere media brouhaha over whether weird is code for Mormon. Plenty of Americans think Mormons are weird, yes, but in this case, the simple fact is Mitt Romney is weird, entirely apart from his religion.
He seems incapable of natural conversation and frequently uncomfortable in his own skin. Hes simultaneously dorkily earnest and ingratiatingly insincere. He suggests a brilliantly designed politician android with an operating system still clearly in beta. He once tied a dog to the roof of his car and drove for hundreds of miles without stopping and some years later thought that was an endearing story. All video of him attempting to interact with normal humans is cringe-inducing, as a cursory YouTube search quickly demonstrates. (Martin Luther King Day, Jacksonville, Fla., 2008: Mitt poses for a picture with some cheerful young parade attendees. As he squeezes in to the otherwise all-black group, he says, apropros of nothing, Who let the dogs out? Woof, woof!) He seems to have been told that small talk is mostly made up of cheerfully delivered non sequiturs.
Even the stories of Romneys supposed temper are ridiculous. He was arrested, in June of 1981, for disorderly conduct while attempting to launch his family boat in Cochituate State Park. He got in a heated argument with a cop who noted that the boat was not displaying its registration. Romney was hauled in in his swim trunks. Charges were dropped when he threatened to sue for false arrest. At the 2002 Salt Lake Winter Olympics Romney got in a public confrontation with a volunteer police officer directing traffic outside an Olympic venue. Police allege Romney said fuck multiple times while berating the cop. Romney declined to apologize to the cop, Shaun Knopp, and while the public berating did happen he mentions it in his book Romney made a big point of specifically denying that he used a bad word. (In fact, Romney insisted at the time that he specifically said H-E double hockey sticks. Like a child. A remarkably well-behaved child speaking in earshot of his second grade teacher.) He told the Boston Globe that he had two witnesses to corroborate his denial. I have not used that word since college all right? or since high school, he said.
Romney recently told People magazine, I tasted a beer and tried a cigarette once, as a wayward teenager, and never did it again. Im not sure we should believe him. Theres no way in hell I can imagine Mitt Romney loosening up enough to have a beer.
Read the full article at:
http://www.alternet.org/teaparty/155138/why_is_mitt_romney_so_incredibly_weird/?page=entire
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)Better Believe It
(18,630 posts)Go Vols
(5,902 posts)limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)Better Believe It
(18,630 posts)Except that would have made him seem even stranger!
Atman
(31,464 posts)"...but when I do, I prefer to spit it out quickly."
Mitt Rmoney: The Least Interesting Man In th...huh? Excuse me, I nodded off there for a second.
Maine-i-acs
(1,499 posts)kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)And I've had a good many more as an adult (and don't tell Mittens but I enjoyed them immensely)...........
PS: What Mittens REALLY needs is to smoke a J and loosen up a little. He looks SO uncomfortable in that human skin.
jmowreader
(50,561 posts)I don't think I've ever said this before and probably never will again, but Mitt Romney needs to start smoking opium.
a la izquierda
(11,795 posts)the mental image of Mitt Romney in an opium den is just priceless. There's a Simpson's episode in which Mr. Burns is high as a kite in "Mao's Den of Iniquity."
That's what I'm thinking of.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)H-E double hockey sticks , I'm shocked he has 5 kids. What a sad person he is.
jmowreader
(50,561 posts)If you've seen it, you know about it: the guy who has two children because he's had sex twice. "But we COULD have it any time we wanted!"
This "I tried a beer and a cigarette once and never did it again" is one of those Romney tales he probably should have kept to himself...seriously, guys, who gives a fuck if he did this?
HillWilliam
(3,310 posts)no star in the east or camels on the doorstep?
aquart
(69,014 posts)hfojvt
(37,573 posts)I've never even tried a cigarette, and only had one nasty-tasting sip of a beer.
Of course, I never did manage to have kids.
That's a poor example of what a droid Romney is. A lot of people have tried something once and for any number of reasons decided it's not for them.
Romney's problem is he has the social skills of a three toed sloth; he is utterly lacking in empathy.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)I find it funny that he has to make an issue out of that. If by some fluke of nature he were to win I guess we would never have a cool beer summit again.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Come on down to Texas and I'll hook you up, one night of greatness!
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)that's how uptight I am.
and those don't sound like cigarettes.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)to whether or not he's had a beer or a cigarette. I've never tried smoking and I've never had a beer, and somehow I ended up a normal person with decent liberal views.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)and having that marvelous beer summit, think again. that SOB is full of nothing but dog whistles.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)But dog whistling beer drinking and smoking won't get much of a response from a far share of his base, such as it is. As said, no empathy.
spanone
(135,854 posts)Better Believe It
(18,630 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Is this term still used?
Autumn
(45,120 posts)as is H-E double hockey sticks.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Kansas song Carry on my wayward son. You know, 1977.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)it probably explains why he didn't want another beer.
gulliver
(13,186 posts)lpbk2713
(42,763 posts)He sounds just like the character Steve Martin played in "The Jerk"
countryjake
(8,554 posts)That sort of cruelty to animals really does take a special breed of person; not even a common jerk would ever think to do such a mindless thing.
RZM
(8,556 posts)And promptly puking. He never did it again. Probably a good thing
I don't think this kind of story is all that unusual, especially for a Mormon.
And it's 'Pareene,' btw.
provis99
(13,062 posts)there's something just plain un-American about that.
Mitt Romney is so whitebread stiff that Pat Boone looks cool by comparison.
opihimoimoi
(52,426 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)There are a lot of religious people who don't drink, smoke, cuss, and regard animals as creatures that humans have dominion over and nothing more. Even the pet dog.
What is telling about the dog incident is that when the Romneys speak of it, I don't hear any indication of love or even fondness for their pet.
bhikkhu
(10,718 posts)...which was how all sorts of people justified voting for * and all of his stupid crap.
Marr
(20,317 posts)The man seems uncomfortable and weak. Conservatives will ignore a *lot*, so long as it comes with a swagger. They worship strength, and desperately want a strong father figure. Romney seems like a dork.
Bladian
(475 posts)I hate beer. It tastes awful to me. Who's to say he isn't the same?
JI7
(89,254 posts)when he probably never even considered doing those things.
Retrograde
(10,137 posts)More for me! Some of my best friends dislike it, but they don't come across as being space aliens. When I have a party I try to be a good host and make sure there's a variety of beverages for everyone.
Romney's trying too hard to appear like a down-to-earth common guy. If he had to mention the subject at all, a simple statement that he doesn't drink alcohol would have served the purpose just as well without making seem as weird.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Come on people...
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)because I didn't know how to. Friends got mad at me for wasting it but I learned.
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)so, how far does he need to go?
white_wolf
(6,238 posts)After all, if you truly believe what you are saying is it really a lie?
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)Bennyboy
(10,440 posts)bleever
(20,616 posts)I think he's confused his future planet with ours.
lpbk2713
(42,763 posts)He has a totally unique view of the world.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)According to several LDS writers (such as Cleon Skousen in his book The First 2000 Years), the earth was created near Kolob over a period of 6000 years (six "days" in Kolob time), and then moved to its present position in our solar system.[30][31][32] This hypothesis is based on oral comments attributed to Joseph Smith, Jr.[27] The hypothesis is also based on a passage from the Book of Abraham stating that in the Garden of Eden, time was measured "after the Lord's time, which was after the time of Kolob; for as yet the Gods had not appointed to Adam his reckoning".[33] According to the hypothesis, the reason that Earth time was measured in Kolob time was because the earth was physically located near Kolob. As a corollary, some LDS writers argue that at the end times, the earth will be plucked from the solar system and returned to its original orbit near Kolob.[34]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolob
bleever
(20,616 posts)is my next band name.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)We don't care for the way he made his fortune, and he doesn't care about us, either. Some religions regard all non-members as dirt to be trampled or eliminated.
That's not what we want in the leadership roles in government, whether it's Romney or Ryan, his BFF. Mittens said he'd sign the killing budget Ryan created. Ryan now claims it was in the Catholic tradition and not from his heroine Ayn Rand. Sure, Paul.
These quirks in belief systems aren't as problematic as what would be/has been done to people under Smith's belief system. The article showed interesting cultural influences. We need to knowwhat we're dealing with, because with the kind of financial power they have, they're not going away anytime soon.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)Clinton's "I didn't inhale". I can't imagine Romney having a beer (or any kind of fun) either.
aquart
(69,014 posts)It ain't that easy to do if you ain't used to it.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)One can survive without all three. They were big into storing food and being off the grid for what they see as hard times coming. Hey, that's what they said.
None were politically conservative at that time, which may not match the current crop of Mormons. I kinda like the outer space part of Mormonism, having grown up with all the movies about traveling the universe.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)He said that he was never a cigarette smoker and that he didn't know how to(referring to bringing smoke into his lungs). He said more than that but what he said made perfect sense to me because I wasn't inhaling first time I smoked. Friends got mad at me for wasting it but I eventually learned. I got remember who gave the interview but I believe it was on CSPAN. Either relating to his book or the Clinton library.
Risen Demon
(199 posts)That's probably the strangest thing to me. I can't help but think of the creepy character played by Crispen Glover. Except Romney isn't a character... and i don't sympathize with him for any loss or mistreatment.
RZM
(8,556 posts)I won't link to it for obvious reasons. But it's been argued that 'Willard Mitt' has cost Romney 5 or so percent in the polls, simply because it's a weird 1 percenter name that most people can't identify with. If he were 'Joe Romney' it might be different. But 'Willard Mitt Romney' is not something that regular folks can identify with.
Of course, to be fair, 'Barack Obama' is far more alien that 'Willard Mitt Romney,' but that's a whole different story
hunter
(38,321 posts)Quite a lot of beer and not much of a tube top; and more than once.
The only weird thing was we could both write Z80 assembly language.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zilog_Z80
That makes me more qualified to be president than Romney.
Even so, hunter recommends you vote for Obama.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Mitten with his dozens of children and grandchildren and Christine the Born-Again Virgin with no husband, no children and more religious fervor than Mitt.
Perhaps they'll all live together in the White House in order to reduce the deficit. Christine will marry one of the Romney boys and she and Ann can stay at home.
Initech
(100,088 posts)He thinks yellow mustard is the hottest hot sauce he's ever tried.
Even if he's telling a joke - people stop him - because they've already heard the joke.
His awkward moments are scheduled weeks in advance.
When he's at a funeral people think they are there to mourn him.
He says "LOL" instead of laughing
He is.... the LEAST interesting man in the world!
Stay boring my friends.
Bombero1956
(3,539 posts)Mitt Romney the kind of guy you's drink a glass of milk with.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)I personally don't care if he is mormon. I went to school with a lot of mormon kids and most of them were really nice. Some of my favorite people are ex-mormons. They have an incredibly strange religion, but hey, most religions are screwed up in one way or another.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)... I agree, it's not because of his religion. He 's like a comic book character (villain) ... almost human but not quite.
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)Last edited Sat Apr 28, 2012, 02:27 PM - Edit history (1)
hooked.
no_hypocrisy
(46,138 posts)(Akin to Clinton's "I didn't inhale".)
melm00se
(4,993 posts)as Mormons (as a general rule) don't drink, smoke or drink caffeinated beverages.
I have several Mormon neighbors and while I may find their religious beliefs a little weird they do have some things that are very positive.
they support their members if they need it one was out of work for almost 2 years and their church gave them an incredible amount of financial and moral support thru that period. I can't say that about over religious institutions.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)an AR I know well. When confronted, he stiffens up his body, and acts extraordinarily defensive. His voice becomes clipped.
What's more telling about the dog story, to me, is that his son said that he meticulously planned this long road trip to a tee. He told his kids that they were stopping at X point and Y point and warned there would be NO exceptions. Unbelievably authoritarian
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)smoker, he smoked in office, and he has of course had a beer or two in the spotlight, including the 'beer summit'.
So this is Mitt saying the President is wayward, smoking, swilling beer, doing stuff Mitt rejected as a teenager. He's not speaking of himself, he's framing the President as Smoker and Drinker in Chief.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)Too bad the cops didn't record it. Coming from this awkward alien android it would be the height of hilarity. It would be like Mr. Spock saying "fuck you".
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)TheManInTheMac
(985 posts)Stupid bullshit like this is precisely why when I see alternet sited as a source I
Johnny Rico
(1,438 posts)I'll freely admit that I'm a bit unusual in this respect.
Scout
(8,624 posts)i don't remember if i was a teenager or older.
i drink mixed drinks now, but not beer, and not wine.
i'd rather smoke pot than drink alcohol anyway!
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)A good chunk of the worlds population doesn't.
progressoid
(49,992 posts)polly7
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Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)I couldn't vote for a man who hasn't been drunk of his arse and slept with someone that he regretted the next morning. Sorry, Mittens, you haven't lived.
Not that I would have voted for him in any case,.
kittykitty
(1,091 posts)Getting up close and personal. No hugs or back slaps.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)still the guilt must have been overwhelming, because Mormons are taught to avoid even the "appearance of evil". :O
Raine
(30,540 posts)I REALLY did try them plus other things. I don't believe him, he's too much of a stick to try anything.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Only spit it out.
rucky
(35,211 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)2000: Drinking beer with the President=Good.
2012: Drinking beer with the President=BAD.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Mormons have prohibitions against alcohol, tobacco, drugs, and coffee for its membership. But let's not let factual context get in the way of snark. Believe me, I'm no Romney fan, but I think we have more important issues to focus on.
ejbrush
(195 posts)NT
bearded clam
(3 posts)This crap is ugly. I have abso-frigging-lutely NO plans to vote for Romney but I don't think he's stiff or unlikeable and I find it downright offensive that people are framing him in this way. I think it is a bias against his religion and I find it very untoward. Mock someone for not drinking? Immature and unfair.