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lunatica

(53,410 posts)
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 10:30 AM Apr 2012

Has anyone noticed that President Obama has the GOP on the defensive?

Cool as a cucumber he brings up the facts about how the GOP are waging a war against women and what do you know? Out come John McCain and The Boner, the top dogs, trying to ridicule the whole thing. Throwing a tizzy while they're at it too.

He has them on the defensive. And that's a winning strategy. And I bet Karl Rove is seething 'cause that's what he likes to do.

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Has anyone noticed that President Obama has the GOP on the defensive? (Original Post) lunatica Apr 2012 OP
Due to the fact that our President is a good man madokie Apr 2012 #1
I disagree with your point lunatica Apr 2012 #2
Good has never been on their side, not ever. They've always been about the dough. lonestarnot Apr 2012 #3
If you continue to fight an enemy who will never go away... randome Apr 2012 #5
The GOP will never be defeted the way you state estiparanoic Apr 2012 #27
Same with foreign policy malaise Apr 2012 #4
Yes. I noticed that now it's an outrage to mention that he killed Bin Laden lunatica Apr 2012 #6
Wish he would have played offense with the healthcare debate. shcrane71 Apr 2012 #7
So do I lunatica Apr 2012 #9
It's about time........ socialist_n_TN Apr 2012 #8
I thought Boner was pathetic an funny at the same time ... lpbk2713 Apr 2012 #10
Watch the debate over the student debt issue. WilliamPitt Apr 2012 #11
no upi402 Apr 2012 #12
It may sound like rationalizing on my part but... randome Apr 2012 #13
If the Dems win upi402 Apr 2012 #18
And what do we get if the Republicans win? lunatica Apr 2012 #23
Yup. It's a thing of beauty. bemildred Apr 2012 #14
He's controlling the narrative lunatica Apr 2012 #15
The thing I notice is how few Dems are supporting him. They should be running interference... saras Apr 2012 #16
But have you noticed how Biden and Bill Clinton are out there actively campaigning too? lunatica Apr 2012 #17
Last time? Last time we had two Democrats fairly close together... saras Apr 2012 #26
. lunatica Apr 2012 #19
They are very much on the defensive. Kath1 Apr 2012 #20
I'm very confident that all women will be voting against the Republicans lunatica Apr 2012 #21
I think you are right Kath1 Apr 2012 #24
well, when they are running a candidate that stands for nothing, they better be defensive spanone Apr 2012 #22
Yes. Kath1 Apr 2012 #25
Well, the GOP is responsible for the headlines they get. And day after day of assaults on women deacon Apr 2012 #28
All President Obama has to do is tell the verified truth lunatica Apr 2012 #29

madokie

(51,076 posts)
1. Due to the fact that our President is a good man
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 10:32 AM
Apr 2012

that in itself has the gop on the defensive. They don't want to water down the sleeze with good people.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
2. I disagree with your point
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 10:36 AM
Apr 2012

Being a good man has never stopped the GOP and the Rovian tactics of destroying the opposition in election years. The GOP likes to control the message and to attack and put liberals and Democrats on the defensive. President Obama has set out to put them on the defensive. It's no coincidence that he brought these points up talking to a women's group.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
5. If you continue to fight an enemy who will never go away...
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 10:41 AM
Apr 2012

...then you will forever be at war with them.

On the other hand, if you find ways to de-power them and embarrass them, in the long run they will either become powerless caricatures of their former selves or end up being on your side.

That is how to defeat an enemy like the GOP.

 

estiparanoic

(15 posts)
27. The GOP will never be defeted the way you state
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 06:35 AM
Apr 2012

they are true believers willing to die for their cause, they are well funded and on top of all that the people that back the GOP now have people who sport a D after their name on the payroll and they consistently vote with the GOP or water down any meaningful liberal and progressive legislation.

The GOP and it's many spin offs are a cancer upon America.

malaise

(269,087 posts)
4. Same with foreign policy
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 10:39 AM
Apr 2012

Getting Bin Laden will send more than a few ReTHUGS to seek their meds.

Notice that it is now unpatriotic for Obama to mention that he got Bin Laden

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
6. Yes. I noticed that now it's an outrage to mention that he killed Bin Laden
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 10:45 AM
Apr 2012

They're definitely flailing and on the defensive.

shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
7. Wish he would have played offense with the healthcare debate.
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 10:48 AM
Apr 2012

Then we might, at the very least, have a public option.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
9. So do I
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 11:12 AM
Apr 2012

But having watched him during his Presidential years I think his strategy has been to get a foot in the door when it comes to big issues like health care and equal rights for the gay community. I think he understands the importance of setting a precedent that will be built on in time.

I am not idolizing him. Just mentioning something I've noticed. The entire health care thing is now up for review by the Supreme Court, which is insane in my opinion, but if they see it as Constitutionally secure then something can be built on it. Since he's a Constitutional expert he may have foreseen this. It's hard to tell though. He keeps things close to his vest.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
8. It's about time........
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 11:06 AM
Apr 2012

And the arguments he's advancing are stuff we've talked about on here for all the years that I've been at DU. But we're "fringe" according to the Third Way bunch. I guess it's better late than never.

Now if he will just get a populist economic theme going.....

lpbk2713

(42,761 posts)
10. I thought Boner was pathetic an funny at the same time ...
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 11:30 AM
Apr 2012



when the best he could come up with was accusing Obama of misusing Air Force One.

No wonder the rethuglican party is going down the crapper with spokesmen like this.


 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
11. Watch the debate over the student debt issue.
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 11:33 AM
Apr 2012

McConnell is already whining, "But but but Obama is only pushing this to make us look bad!"

Yep.

Asshole.

upi402

(16,854 posts)
12. no
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 11:33 AM
Apr 2012

they have themselves on the defensive

just like when they won so much in the 2010 election

they seemed soooo screwed into the dirt, but 'voila!'

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
13. It may sound like rationalizing on my part but...
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 11:38 AM
Apr 2012

...knowing HOW to react and when NOT to react are important tactics by themselves.

IMO, Obama knows this. True, the GOP is self-destructing. But with anyone else as President right now, I'm not sure we'd have the result that appears to be forthcoming -a defanged and powerless GOP is in our future.

upi402

(16,854 posts)
18. If the Dems win
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 12:40 PM
Apr 2012

we get drones in the US and a continuation of Bush policies for another 4 years. I'm thinking that nutjob Ron Paul would be kooky enough to fight the military industrial complex at least. Though I'd never vote for him. Obama? well the proof is all around us if we look at his walk and ignore his talk.

I can't see that as winning anymore. I'm sorry to be negative, but I've seen enough.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
23. And what do we get if the Republicans win?
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 08:53 PM
Apr 2012

Far worse for sure. Far, far worse. Women will have all our rights taken away, just for starters. Do you think Ron Paul would defend women's rights? I sure as hell don't.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
14. Yup. It's a thing of beauty.
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 11:41 AM
Apr 2012

Not since LBJ have I seen the Pubbies so thoroughly whipsawed by their own rhetoric.

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
16. The thing I notice is how few Dems are supporting him. They should be running interference...
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 12:14 PM
Apr 2012

...it's the job of Democrats in Congress to make Obama look mainstream. Where are they?

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
17. But have you noticed how Biden and Bill Clinton are out there actively campaigning too?
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 12:21 PM
Apr 2012

And they're talking about his accomplishments, also dominating the narrative.

When was the last time an ex-President did that with a sitting President?

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
26. Last time? Last time we had two Democrats fairly close together...
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 03:05 AM
Apr 2012

It's great what they're doing - I still think there should be fifty congrespeople WAY more liberal than Obama, giving him a way to compromise TO the "mainstream Democrat" position in exchange for Republican concessions.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
20. They are very much on the defensive.
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 08:19 PM
Apr 2012

And they should be. They really should be ashamed of themselves. Which party proposes all of these anti-choice, anti-abortion, anti-contraception initiatives? Which party wants to redefine the meaning of rape? Which party, at every turn, opposes legislation which benefits poor and working class women? Obama and all Dem candidates should keep hammering on this point. There is a war on women and that war is being waged by Republicans. "...he brings up the facts" - Yes, the facts! I'm 53, graduated high school in '76, and I can't believe what is going on. I really don't know how any woman in this country could support a Republican, although there are those in my own family who do (sigh).

I saw the Chris Matthews show last week and all the pundits agreed that whoever carries the vote of single women will win this election. I hope that is true because I know a lot of single women and all of them will be voting Obama.

I want to say this election will be an Obama landslide, but this is coming from someone who thought Reagan was a joke. We all know how that went.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
21. I'm very confident that all women will be voting against the Republicans
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 08:39 PM
Apr 2012

Not just single ones. And men who care about their wives and daughters will too.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
24. I think you are right
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 08:56 PM
Apr 2012

And I hope and pray that you are right! We don't want to go back to the 1950's or the 1800's.

Palin, Bachman and the other Republican token women they trot out there certainly DO NOT speak for me or the majority of women in this country.

"And men who care about their wives and daughters will too." - I certainly hope so.

I think women know what is at stake in this election year and will vote accordingly.

Peace.

spanone

(135,851 posts)
22. well, when they are running a candidate that stands for nothing, they better be defensive
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 08:49 PM
Apr 2012

dumbfucks

deacon

(5,967 posts)
28. Well, the GOP is responsible for the headlines they get. And day after day of assaults on women
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 07:07 AM
Apr 2012

speaking of them like they are second class citizens and following up with legislation and proposals that back up their talk cements their positions. These idiots, mccain and boehner can't just blurt out "no we're not doing this or that" -YOU ARE and everyone can see it. You're sexists pigs. You prove it every day.

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