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progressoid

(49,999 posts) Wed Feb 11, 2015, 08:58 AM Feb 2015

Here's a useful chart of the President's $1.15 trillion proposed discretionary spending budget.

Robert Reich

Here's a useful chart of the President's $1.15 trillion proposed discretionary spending budget. This is the budget that's set annually, over which priorities are established every year (it doesn't include Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security, which are baked into the budget). Note that the President is calling for military spending to be 54%, while squeezing everything else the government does (including education and health care) into 46% of annual spending. Also note this is the President's budget, before he begins negotiating with Republicans.

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Here's a useful chart of the President's $1.15 trillion proposed discretionary spending budget. (Original Post) progressoid Feb 2015 OP

Obscene. woo me with science Feb 2015 #1

Yep. And who gets to pay for it? progressoid Feb 2015 #6

It only needs two colors: helping people and killing people Taitertots Feb 2015 #2

Fucking criminally insane !!! SamKnause Feb 2015 #3

Truly Amazing nationalize the fed Feb 2015 #4

And remember that the $652B is only the visible budgeted amount LondonReign2 Feb 2015 #13

Goes to show Caretha Feb 2015 #5

TERRAble (nt) bigwillq Feb 2015 #7

Text says it doesn't include Medicare or Social Security, yet both appear on the chart. Scuba Feb 2015 #8

I noticed that also dumbcat Feb 2015 #9

Outside of discretionary spending, there's more in the rest of the budget. progressoid Feb 2015 #11

Thanks. Scuba Feb 2015 #14

Think of all that we could do without rich people. GeorgeGist Feb 2015 #10

This is why it's harder & harder to support the Democratic Party. -nt CrispyQ Feb 2015 #12

Sigh. That's so true. tencats Feb 2015 #15

USA USA! whatchamacallit Feb 2015 #16

I think we should use that military budget this way. Most of it should go to the Corpe of Engineers jwirr Feb 2015 #17

Now there's a wonderfully dishonest and misleading poster. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2015 #18

The site that put that out has an entire page on spending. CrispyQ Feb 2015 #19

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)

1. Obscene.

Reply to progressoid (Original post)

Wed Feb 11, 2015, 09:00 AM

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progressoid

(49,999 posts)

6. Yep. And who gets to pay for it?

Reply to woo me with science (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 11, 2015, 09:48 AM

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https://www.nationalpriorities.org/analysis/2015/presidents-2016-budget-in-pictures/

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)

2. It only needs two colors: helping people and killing people

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Wed Feb 11, 2015, 09:02 AM

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The killing people side is far too big.

SamKnause

(13,110 posts)

3. Fucking criminally insane !!!

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Wed Feb 11, 2015, 09:11 AM

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nationalize the fed

(2,169 posts)

4. Truly Amazing

Reply to progressoid (Original post)

Wed Feb 11, 2015, 09:33 AM

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how the "War on Terror" came along soon after the Evil Commies were defeated. Yup. That's timing.

And what the chart represents above is one of the biggest ripoffs in history. Why is this tolerated?

$652 Billion PER YEAR? 652 thousand million PER YEAR?
And they couldn't stop 19 Arabs with box cutters?

http://costofwar.com

A political discussion about the "Peace Dividend" resulting from the end of the Cold War involves a debate about which countries have actually scaled back military spending and which have not. The scale back in defense spending was mainly noticeable in Western Europe and in the Russian Federation. The United States, whose military spending was rapidly reducing between 1985 and 1993 and remained flat between 1993 and 1999,[2] has dramatically increased it after September 11, 2001 to fund conflicts like the War on Terror, War in Afghanistan and the War in Iraq.

Section V of Rebuilding America's Defenses, entitled "Creating Tomorrow's Dominant Force", includes the sentence: "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event––like a new Pearl Harbor" PNAC

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)

13. And remember that the $652B is only the visible budgeted amount

Reply to nationalize the fed (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 11, 2015, 11:42 AM

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Layer on all the black ops, off-budget stuff on top of this.

Caretha

(2,737 posts)

5. Goes to show

Reply to progressoid (Original post)

Wed Feb 11, 2015, 09:47 AM

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it ain't cheap to be a crumbling Empire....just ask Caesar.

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)

7. TERRAble (nt)

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Wed Feb 11, 2015, 09:50 AM

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Scuba

(53,475 posts)

8. Text says it doesn't include Medicare or Social Security, yet both appear on the chart.

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Wed Feb 11, 2015, 10:44 AM

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In any event, our spending on death and destruction is beyond obscene. It's pure evil.

dumbcat

(2,120 posts)

9. I noticed that also

Reply to Scuba (Reply #8)

Wed Feb 11, 2015, 10:53 AM

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I am guessing the amounts they show on the chart are for administrative expenses of those programs and not the actual benefits. Separating them lets you use them however you like to bolster your case.

progressoid

(49,999 posts)

11. Outside of discretionary spending, there's more in the rest of the budget.

Reply to Scuba (Reply #8)

Wed Feb 11, 2015, 11:31 AM

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Here's the whole kit-n-caboodle.

Scuba

(53,475 posts)

14. Thanks.

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Wed Feb 11, 2015, 11:52 AM

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GeorgeGist

(25,323 posts)

10. Think of all that we could do without rich people.

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Wed Feb 11, 2015, 11:23 AM

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CrispyQ

(36,527 posts)

12. This is why it's harder & harder to support the Democratic Party. -nt

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Wed Feb 11, 2015, 11:33 AM

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tencats

(567 posts)

15. Sigh. That's so true.

Reply to CrispyQ (Reply #12)

Wed Feb 11, 2015, 01:03 PM

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President's Proposed 2016 Budget: Military and Non-Military Discretionary Spending

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)

16. USA USA!

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Wed Feb 11, 2015, 01:19 PM

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jwirr

(39,215 posts)

17. I think we should use that military budget this way. Most of it should go to the Corpe of Engineers

Reply to progressoid (Original post)

Wed Feb 11, 2015, 02:11 PM

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for domestic projects - like building wind and solar farms, fixing our roads, building schools, fixing sewers and a lot of other things we need here in the USA. At least the money would be going to something we want to spend our money on.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)

18. Now there's a wonderfully dishonest and misleading poster.

Reply to progressoid (Original post)

Wed Feb 11, 2015, 02:35 PM

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It invites you to overlook the difference between discretionary spending and all spending, and assume that most of the US budget goes on the military.

CrispyQ

(36,527 posts)

19. The site that put that out has an entire page on spending.

Reply to Donald Ian Rankin (Reply #18)

Wed Feb 11, 2015, 05:13 PM

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https://www.nationalpriorities.org/budget-basics/federal-budget-101/spending/

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