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You're going to tell me he's not a terrorist? 14 firearms seized from #ChapelHillShooting suspect's home http://fw.to/2TMiz0Q via @WRAL:
14 firearms seized from Chapel Hill shootings suspect's home
DURHAM, N.C. Investigators seized more than a dozen firearms and a cache of ammunition from the Chapel Hill home of a man charged with killing three students this week, according to search warrants released Friday.
Deah Shaddy Barakat, 23; his wife, Yusor Mohammad Abu-Salha, 21; and her sister Razan Mohammad Abu-Salha, 19, were found dead Tuesday evening at the newlywed couple's home about 3 miles from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill campus.
Craig Stephen Hicks, 46, who lived in the same condominium complex as the victims, is charged with three counts of first-degree murder. He is being held at Central Prison in Raleigh.
Police searched Hicks' home the night of the shootings and found two fully loaded handguns, a fully loaded AR-15 Bushmaster rifle, two shotguns, five other rifles, two other handguns and two pellet guns, according to one search warrant. They also found numerous magazines with varying amounts of ammunition, boxes of ammunition, shotgun shells, BBs, gun scopes and other gun-related items, the warrant states.
Read more at http://www.wral.com/14-firearms-seized-from-chapel-hill-shootings-suspect-s-home/14445302/#hBPARDtgA4i19Mms.99
Rex
(65,616 posts)to talk about guns and ammo and scopes and stuff. Anything but your subject.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)Response to orpupilofnature57 (Reply #34)
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orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)And by the way, People " Understand " Statements are understood, or in Your case , NOT.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)ileus
(15,396 posts)If not for the evil guns making him kill he'd be adored.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)"According to the search warrants, a woman flagged down police and directed them to Barakat's and Yusor Abu-Salha's condo, saying her friend was bleeding. When officers arrived, they found Barakat dead in the front doorway bleeding from the head; one of the sisters was found in the kitchen, and the other was in the doorway to the kitchen.
A witness outside told police that he heard shots and saw a man leaving the condo and driving off in a gold car, the warrant states.
Police found eight shell casings in the living room of the condo and a bullet somewhere inside, according to a second warrant. They also seized three cellphones, a watch, two sets of keys and Barakat's wallet and keychain.
Hicks surrendered to law enforcement in Pittsboro, and investigators swabbed the driver's door handle and steering wheel of his Nissan for evidence, along with seizing his vehicle registration and insurance card, a third warrant states."
Read more at http://www.wral.com/14-firearms-seized-from-chapel-hill-shootings-suspect-s-home/14445302/#yPxyDPXMtAt6xCiu.99
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)The NRA are the masters of the universe, and RWer's gawd is word. Hell, the NRA's corporate offices allows no guns, but the lurd's house goes. Hallelujah . . .
A co-worker basically said those things to me. This person reads fake news 24/7.
Prayers to the families of the victims, may the victims reside in the temple of everything good.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)I think it's a symptom of seriously troubled people.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)You would probably feint at the sight of what's in my safes, but I'm far from being a seriously troubled person, I am the most stable person I know.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)I own a large number of firearms, but I'm neither troubled nor a terrorist.
Lots of assumptions made about gun owners...of course, you know what they say about assuming...
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)Assume, make an "ass out of u, but not me.
Of course, I didn't mean you, but a certain poster here.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)how you feel about gunz and other issues. I hope you get better someday.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)my age, something you can relate to.
BTW, I've added a 4th safe.
You should be happy that I practice safe storage.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)GGJohn
(9,951 posts)a very special dinner tonight.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)GGJohn
(9,951 posts)hoo BOY do I hear you
I see people with tons of guns, I steer clear - f*** them all
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)GGJohn
(9,951 posts)He shot and killed 3 people because of his hatred towards religion.
Archae
(46,344 posts)Hatred of Muslims, yes.
But how many Christians/Jews/Buddhists/etc. did he shoot?
None.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)on the most recent events, but say you're right about his hatred of Muslim's, wouldn't that be a hatred of religion?
Archae
(46,344 posts)GGJohn
(9,951 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Craig Stephen Hicks identified himself on Facebook as an atheist and ridiculed different religions, including Christianity and Islam. He also put up a post in which he appeared to identify as an ally of the LGBTQ community.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/chapel-hill-shooting-alleged-shooter-long-frustrated-parking/story?id=28948627
X_Digger
(18,585 posts)Folks are playing loose and fast with terms.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)Terrorism has an actual definition, and folks seem to have forgotten that.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)but, respectfully, I'm going to disagree with you on this one issue.
Peace.
msongs
(67,438 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Which is far less than the number of Americans with mental health problems.
http://www.thekimfoundation.org/html/about_mental_ill/statistics.html
Even though mental disorders are widespread in the population, the main burden of illness is concentrated in a much smaller proportion about 6 percent, or 1 in 17 who suffer from a serious mental illness. In addition, mental disorders are the leading cause of disability in the U.S. and Canada for ages 15-44
MerryBlooms
(11,771 posts)into the terrorist question, but intent and actions sure as hell do.
aikoaiko
(34,183 posts)For me Hicks is a terrorist (of one kind or another) for the act of shooting 3 beautiful people for no good reason. And all that took was one handgun.
DustyJoe
(849 posts)Will have to wait on the stats other than the 3 'fully loaded' guns versus the BB guns state of full, partial or not loaded to determine their terroristic threat. I assume from the article that the other rifles, shotgun were not in the dreaded 'fully loaded' states.
It seems the murdering idiot just needed one gun loaded with 3 bullets to kill the unarmed students.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)On three innocent promising human beings.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)So now we are counting pellet guns as firearms to make it sound worse, what bullshit.
Curious on what the rifles were, bolt action? 22? That is not that large if they were differing calibers for different purposes. I have that many. Large frame pistols and several old bolt action rifles. I guess I have a HUGE arsenal.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)A guy is a murderer. His personal belongings show he nurtures a lot of hate. He also really likes guns and doesn't practice accepted gun safety.
So, why do the gun enthusiasts here feel the need to get defensive about themselves and their gun interests?
Why do you guys not drop the self-defensive posture and just focus on the real people destroyed and those left suffering?
The problem is Hate + weapons= tragedy
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)It is just bad reporting as has been pointed out to have to add pellet guns to make the story even more scary.
The firearms owners here just point out the fact it was not that large number of weapons. It really only takes one like he used. A handgun. But to many, the mention of the scary AR-15 makes it worse and I am sure some will call for another ban. They do not seem to worry that most murders are by handguns. The news has to include pellet guns, what a joke they are.
and you know, people have used cars a weapons also.
Police: Venice Beach Boardwalk driver 'bent on doing evil'
http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/03/us/california-venice-beach-crash/
Woman arrested for allegedly running over 2 men at Arlington auto dealership
http://www.wjla.com/articles/2015/01/hit-and-run-driver-runs-over-one-victim-s-foot-drags-second-victim-110950.html#ixzz3RmZFr0Hn
Tucson police: Man intentionally ran over 3 people, killing 2
http://tucson.com/news/local/crime/tucson-police-man-intentionally-ran-over-people-killing/article_305ade32-a164-5788-aa77-59fc0d570c58.html
Suge Knight charged with murder, called 'the most evil person in the world' by victim's relative
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/suge-knight-hit-and-run-appears-intentional-cops-article-1.2097919
2 Mississippi women admit hate-crime role in running over, killing black man
http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/12/2_mississippi_women_admit_hate.html
Woman dies after being run over several times in Douglasville
http://www.cbs46.com/story/25870293/vehicle-hits-pedestrian-in-douglasville#ixzz3Rma3loSg
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Because all that other defensive stuff in your post is pretty extraneous.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)They do not stop and think for ONE SINGLE SECOND about the victims. They only give a damn about their ability to carry a deadly weapon. The gunner's mantra is "Your dead kids don't trump my rights!" I have never ever seen a thread about guns where this isn't what the Pro2A argument boiled down to. Not. Once.
MasochisticHistorian
(8 posts)Cause either way you cut it you would HATE our founders. Because there's really only two ways you can interpret the 2nd Amendment.
1.) It is my duty as an America to know how to use a firearm so that at some point I may serve in my state militia
2.) In case the government needs overthrowing we are able to practice our rate of doing such.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)I have met many that do. Hopefully he gets some help.
ileus
(15,396 posts)He shot 3 people and turned himself in...not a very good terrorist.
Sorry just a worthless nut, that it seems everyone was aware of.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Lex
(34,108 posts)They are more of a threat to us all than ISIS.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)been more deaths by them
Of course most are not that way
Skittles
(153,185 posts)they think it makes them TOUGH
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)As does hate crime, and mass shooting.
Mass shootings can be hate crimes.
Mass shootings can be terrorism.
Hate crimes can be terrorism.
Not all mass shootings are terrorism.
Not all mass shootings are hate crimes.
Not all hate crimes are terrorism.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)MasochisticHistorian
(8 posts)And terrorism definition specifically can not be one hate crime. Maybe a large spree of hate crimes, or the terroristic way the media operates could turn a small amount of hate crimes into terrorism, but yes are logical and right. This is not terrorism, thank you for being enlightened.
Skittles
(153,185 posts)mwrguy
(3,245 posts)krispos42
(49,445 posts)He owned a variety of guns for variety of purposes.
I own 5... Guess I'm about a third of a terrorist.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)As a Well Regulated Militia man, of course he needed several weapons.
How do you expect the Well Regulated Militia to deal with threats like these three college students without proper weapons and equipment?
Thank goodness our wise founding fathers of the 18th century had the foresight to foresee our modern problems and our great need for the Well Regulated Militia!
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)jpak
(41,758 posts)AR-15 - the favored extender device of Angry White Men everywhere.
yup