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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIt's Feb 16, 2015, and Debbie Wasserman Schultz is still DNC Chair
Unless the Democratic rank-and-file organizes to get the (planned) failure of Wasserman Schultz removed from her position and replaced by an actual Democrat who has brains and a desire to make the Democratic party competitive nationwide, we can expect the GOP -- and a few Wall St. Democrats -- to rule and wreck havoc all over the nation for the next 50 years.
Again, it's long past time for the average Democrat to take back the party from the infiltrators who have been working hand-in-hand with the Republicans in their mission to turn this once great nation into a modern day feudal society.
KG
(28,752 posts)brooklynite
(94,727 posts)The DNC doesn't make policy decisions for the Party (I believe we have a President to set the tone for that). He/She is in charge of raising money, building State Party structures and managing big picture projects like developing the Primary schedule and the convention.
brentspeak
(18,290 posts)I actually made the claim that the DNC chair "makes policy decisions for the party", then you would have a reason for posting on my thread.
Otherwise, stuff your red herrings back into where they came from.
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)Makes some see things that aren't there.
I fully agree about DWS. She was, is, will continue to be a disaster. The DNC managed to piss off tens of thousands, while energizing no one.
We need someone more in the mold of a Dean, not a Dino.
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)DNC Committee members that are appointed by each states Democratic party leadership.
It's officers are Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Chair), Amy Dacey (Executive Director), Raul Alvillar (National Political Director)
Here is a link to a 2004 thread about this very subject.
Each state has a certain number of DNC Committee members, and they meet to choose the Chair of the DNC.
California, for instance,
California has 32 DNC members, which includes 19 members elected by the California Democratic Party's Executive Board (indicated with an *asterisk).
I tried looking up Florida, but their DNC Committee is not so easy to find.
What I did find is that Each states DNC Committee members, many of them chosen by a board and none of them appear to be elected by a democratic vote of the party members.
To get any possible traction, it would be necessary to go petition each states DNC Committee, rather than the national committee, because that is how they choose.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)So appealing to the DNC is not going to work. They are chosen by Schultz to work with Schultz.
Seek out people to email the 50 State committees, because they choose the DNC Chair, and only they would be in a position to remove the DNC Chair from office.
Chathamization
(1,638 posts)be removed by a majority vote of the Democratic National Committee, and each term shall expire upon the election for the following term." And the Democratic National Committee seems to be largely (though not solely) made up of local state party members (excerpts from DNC bylaws):
(a) the Chairperson and the highest ranking officer of the opposite sex of each recognized
state Democratic Party and of the Democratic Parties of Guam, the Virgin Islands, American Samoa and the Northern Mariana Islands;
(b) two hundred additional members apportioned to the states on the basis set forth in Article Two, Section 5(a) of the Charter, consistent with the full participation goals of Sections 3 and 4 of Article Eight of the Charter; provided that each state shall have at least two such additional members;
The problem is, in my experience - just about no one pays any attention to state party elections. You'll get a lot of complaining about Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and none talking about how we need to elect better people at the state level. Even worse, we get people discouraging reform the few times it's actually brought up, saying it's pointless. People just don't care enough to fix the thing.
We had a State Party here that suspended elections for two years - third world country dictatorship stuff. When elections finally happened again, a group of reformers challenged them, but just about all of the corrupt old guard were reelected. You know why? People don't care. I talked to everyone around me, and absolutely no one was paying attention (outside of a group of progressive organizers I work with). People on DU don't care - you're going to get 1000 more topics complaining about Wasserman Schultz than you will reminding people to vote for people who will elect someone else. You'll get 1000 more topics complaining about people elected in the primaries than you will encouraging people to vote for a progressive in those primaries.
The rank and file doesn't care, the net roots don't care, our so called progressive opinion leaders don't care, and there's only a miniscule group of progressives that toil in silence at the local level trying to push back against both the political machine of the insiders and the apathy of the public at large.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)This is what I found out about Amy Dacey
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ NAMES AMY DACEY AS NEW DNC CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER
Amys experience working on campaigns, in the labor movement, on committees and for other progressive causes will make her an invaluable asset to Democrats in every corner of the country.
Dacey comes to the DNC from EMILYs List where she has served as Executive Director since early 2010. Under her tenure at EMILYs List, the organization increased its membership by 500 percent, raised more money per cycle than any time in the organizations history, expanded its recruitment and training program, and helped elect an historic number of women to Congress.
Prior to joining EMILYs List, Dacey was Director of Government Relations for the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), where she managed the legislative, policy, intergovernmental and executive branch outreach departments for the union. During the 2006 election cycle she was National Political Director for then-Senator John Kerrys national leadership PAC after serving as the Traveling Political Director on his 2004 presidential campaign. She was Deputy Political Director of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC) for the 2002 election cycle, and for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) during the 2000 cycle.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)This is what I discovered about Raul Alvillar
DNC Chair Wasserman Schultz Names Raul Alvillar Political Director
Alvillar has worked for President Obama in a variety of roles since 2007. He comes to the DNC after serving as Senior Advisor to Secretary Shaun Donovan in the Office of Public Engagement and Public Affairs at the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD).
Prior to his position at HUD, Raul was Associate Director at the Office of Public Engagement for the White House Office of the Vice President, where he worked closely with elected officials, stakeholders and members of the administration. He also served as Deputy National Political Director at Senator John Kerry's Keeping America's Promise PAC and as Political Director and Regional Field Director on the John Kerry 2004 Presidential campaign.
Congressman Xavier Becerra (CA-34), Chairman of the House Democratic Caucus added, Raul is a strong ally for Democrats everywhere and I'm proud to call him a friend. At a time when the stakes could not be higher for working families in America, I am confident that Raul brings the experience and dedication to promote the President's agenda and propel Democrats to victory in November.
Raul is a real star in the Democratic world. He worked for me during the Kerry for President Campaign and showed great skill and political judgment. The DNC is lucky to have him, said Democratic strategist Steven Elmendorf.
Another story about Raul Alvillar
DNC names gay operative as natl political director
brentspeak
(18,290 posts)2014 midterm elections: GOP gains control of the Senate, expands control in the House, won gubernatorial control of states traditionally "blue", retained and expanded legislative control of states:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/2014-midterm-elections-gop-takes-control-of-the-senate/
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/election-results-2014-republicans-control-governorships-md-ar/story?id=26626466
http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2014/11/us-2014-mid-term-election-results
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)I point out that petitioning the DNC to fire Schultz is like pissing your pants in a dark suit. It gives a warm feeling but nobody notices.
Schultz is chosen by Democratic committee members from each of the fifty states Democratic parties. They chose her, only they can change that choice. You would need to get enough people to write to each state to get anyone to change that decision before the finish of the 2016 election.
As to the losses, that is because a majority of Democrats under forty and the poor did not bother to vote. Older Republicans turned out to vote in higher percentages than Traditional democratic constituencies. Schultz has nothing to do with voter turnout.
That is not Schultz's fault because her job is to collect money and coordinate that money out to the various candidates.
The DNC does not cho0se candidates.
The DNC does not make policy.
The DNC does not make decisions for individual candidates.
They collect money and hand it out.
I've seen similar posts, and unless those who dislike Schultz go to their individual state parties there is nothing they can do. Schultz is not gong to fire herself for something that she was not responsible for.
brentspeak
(18,290 posts)Her failure (planned failure, I should say) to build any grassroots Democratic infrastructure in states has a lot to do with the lack of voter turnout. And Wasserman Schultz has a history of favoring the wrong candidates.
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2008-03-24/news/0803230120_1_democratic-party-democratic-committeeman-wasserman-schultz
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/03/20/848184/-Doug-Tudor-D-FL-Blue-America-s-Newest-Endorsed-Candidate
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/howie-klein/debbie-wasserman-schultz_b_123322.html
Your defense of her is unconvincing.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)I feel DEMs have awful leadership, both at the DNC and in Congress. Time for them all to step aside.
pa28
(6,145 posts)He seemed much more interested in raising money than winning overall elections and he was nearly impossible to get rid of.
Howard Dean successfully used his position to create a winning party and they couldn't get rid of him fast enough.
Unfortunately I think Debbie's job is safe.
jimruymen
(22 posts)dump this corrupt incompetent phony Democrat before it's too late, she's done enough damage
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)Of course, she has lots of help within the Democratic Party though.
RationalMan
(96 posts)for optimism coming from Wasserman-Schultz that we saw with say, Howard Dean.
But I am not going to fault her for the outcome of the 2012 elections. Gerry-mandering of House districts with the majority of states controlled by Republicans makes it difficult for Democrats to compete. We need to focus much more on state houses especially in the run up to 2020 elections so we can influence the congressional district map.
As for the Senate, this was the perfect storm. Many of the states up for election this cycle were in predominantly Republican states. I don't know what the national party could have done to change the outcome. I believe the prospects for the Senate in 2016 are much better.
But we do need a new national plan. The Republicans have not had a plan since 2008 other than to stop Obama. That plan evaporates in 2016 unless it becomes a stop Hillary. But the Democrats need to craft an image for the future, a plan, a vision that will excite the base in 2016. I believe much of the 2008 surge was national weariness with the Bush war years, an economy in free-fall and the excitement of electing the first African-American president. That won't work in 2016.
tabbycat31
(6,336 posts)Yes, DWS is the national Democratic chair. But under her, there's state chairs, congressional district chairs, county chairs, and local chairs, and under them there are committee members.
Often there are vacancies at the local level. Show up at your county Democratic Party meeting and get involved. Fill a chair/vice chair position if there's a vacancy. Change is made at the local, not the national level. (Local parties and offices are often the first recruiting grounds for higher office candidates too).
Scuba
(53,475 posts)... deliver exactly the results the Third Way owners of the Democratic Party leadership wanted.
Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)after she said it didn't matter if Scott Walker won his recall or not, she lost my confidence in her. And I don't donate to the Democratic Party of Wisconsin, either, only individual candidates.
Any party that can do NOTHING with the momentum of 2011 here in WI is not doing something right.
betterdemsonly
(1,967 posts)There is a dnc convention where they are elected. Has it happened yet. We need to find a Dean like candidate and elect them at that convention.