policemen and conservative politicians.

Unreal. And this WH is promoting.

Unreal.

They might be terrorists!

who hate this kind of psychobabble?

The Constitutionalists. Where are they? The Libertarians. Where are they?

George Bush, Dick Cheney and crew? Oh I see...we only care about terrorism when it is US and not when we are terrorizing other people. We killed about 1/25 of the population of Iraq...but that's okay cuz that's not terrorism...that's war.



Seriously, this country just seems to want to fuck itself over constantly. Seems the PTB have lost their collective minds OR they are admitting that the Taliban won and America lost. Either way it seems we are fucked as citizens.

the bad guys won

Cindy
09 Feb 2015 at 7:06 pm

Has your teenager ever said the following:

“Fuck the police. No really, Mom, fuck them.”

“But I LIKE hummus. Oh, and not hurting animals for food.”

“Why does all authority seem so corrupted?”

“How come we can bomb them but they can’t bomb us?”

“How come we say it’s a war, a ‘battle,’ but the enemy can’t actually shoot back? Not only are our airstrikes and drone strikes are impervious to their weapons, we just blow them away from the sky while just walking around, having weddings or sitting at a café or something.”

“How come we, America, get away with torturing people? Why is Barack ‘Dandy Gandhi’ Obama protecting torturers, war criminals, Wall Street criminals, murdering policemen, polluting corporations and other complete reprobates?”

“American movies about the military unrealistically show the poor, deluded soul-destroyed grunts who serve as ideal figures.”

“Why does that ‘General” have so many merit badges on his smart little uniform when he’s only sent other people to kill and die from the safety of his office?”

“But I LIKE Noam Chomsky. And John Lennon. And Ron Paul.”

“How come we’re allowed to just drone strike people? And how come we can just keep on a-warring without specific congressional approval?”

“Most TV is shit.”

“I can’t identify with either Democrats or Republicans, but I feel strongly that political activism is significant.”

“How come people talk about MLK Jr. but always conveniently forget he was a vibrant antiwar activist who condemned America’s militarism?”

* * *

If you’ve answered ‘yes, my teen talks like this’ to most of these questions, congratulations, you’re being a good parent. The establishment is possibly watching you and your kids, however, or at least storing what you and they do to review later (but hey, they’re trying to do that with everyone), so kudos on being brave, too.

If you’ve answered ‘no,’ you and your progeny are probably conformists, or ‘good Germans.’

means anything questioning American Imperialism and Capitalism. The 1% will use propaganda, fear, and hate to divide us. Look what the police state did to Occupy. Hell, they murder black men on a daily basis in dozens of cities across the US every day already and get away with it.

on a really bad path into the future!

"We can pay 1/2 the workers to kill the other half" ~Jay Gould, 19th Century Railroad tycoon when discussing his relations with his workers when they tried to unionize.

My youngest didn't talk to me from the time she was 11 until she graduated from high school - and when she did, she made a point of saying, "Don't think we're bonding because we're not." Now, 11 years later, we're great friends, but I guess we must have been "at risk of terrorism" there for a while.

and you are punished by the further stress of surveillance instead of getting the causes of that hopelessness addressed.

And don't you love how our economic problems are being dealt with by paying one half of society to surveille at "rate" the other half - which is most likely in a state of hopelessnes and futility because of unemployment and poverty!

"We can pay 1/2 the workers to kill the other half" ~Jay Gould, 19th Century Railroad tycoon when discussing his relations with his workers when they tried to unionize.

"Welfare fraud investigators" who focus on petty survival strategies instead of businessmen, bureaucrats, and doctors trying to soak big dollars out of the system. You should see what these INVESTIGATORS get paid as opposed to the pittance people get from welfare. An investigation was triggered (ordered?) on me - probably because of the trouble I made over reporting work being punished by the system - over a "pension" from a job I held 15 years ago for 11 months that has ZERO dollars in it! I'm still under surveillance now, as far as I know.

reminds me of the so-called "trustee" I had during my bankruptcy,
grim steely faced with greed, living of a commission % of however
much he can squeeze out of poor people.

Sorry about your experience as it sounds much worse.

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My automatic response to beggars used to be that they should be getting money from the "welfare", where the "government" would vet whether they really needed/deserved/qualified for help. Now I know that the "welfare" system was devastated long ago, and people need to get under-the-table cash somehow to get basic needs met.

I also used to be the first to call for "fraud investigation" as the remedy for any suspicion of misuse of funds. Now I know the funds are too small for this to be an efficient use of taxpayer money, and most of it isn't in the form of direct cash anyway. It's medical care, job search assistance, food stamps, and very small rent assistance. Living on zero income is very stressful. Adding constant surveillance to that just makes it worse. In my case, I'm also sure it was triggered by my trouble-making MoveOn.org petition (see my sig) since the ostensible trigger was beyond bogus.

we mostly developed affordable housing for lowest income populations..

Then when I retired, all I had was SS and VA disability to live on, so needed
to move into a subsidized low-ioncome housing situation to make ends meet.

The irony was not lost on me.

all I will ever have is SSI with no regular SS because not enough credits. If I actually make it that long, I'm doomed, lol.

because I have not researched the topic. I do know however that Somali teenagers are being recruited by mideast terrorists. I think at least one Twin Cities Somali teen was killed in either Syria or Iraq, I can't recall the specifics.